Discussion NY AG has evidence Trump golf club gave out fraudulent green cards

[zinfamous]

He may know then again he may not. There are many many cases where the managers of business' are guilty of crimes and the actual owners know nothing about it. But of course this is Trump and everybody is quick to point fingers with no real facts.

At this point, invoking Occam's Razor means that you are an idiot.

 

[Jhhnn]

lol. you really are a pathetic old man. What won't you defend this old shitburger over?

He may be right this time. I mean, yeh, sure, Trump knows in an abstract way that his properties obviously employ illegals. It's true throughout a lot of industries. He's so far removed from it that he has no accountability nor does he care.

 

[sandorski]

The Trump family reminds me of the old stereotype of Gypsies. A group of people wandering from town to town trying to grab everything of value by any Legal or Illegal means necessary. Breaking the Law is just a Cost of doing business, not much different from how many other Corporations view Legality as, on certain issues.

 

[Phokus]

pcgeek is the biggest cuck bootlicker i've ever seen

 

[ch33zw1z]

Shocked.

 

[Moonbeam]

Trump should be impeached because he makes liberal so mad the country is in such an uproar that nothing, not even government works. He causes liberals to have Trump Derangement Syndrome and is a threat to the nations mental health. He must be removed from office. People are going without pay checks and services are shut down. I mean, trump is a wonderful guy and all and has the best of intentions, but he is making the majority of Americans sick. We need to do something to save ourselves.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump should be impeached because he makes liberal so mad the country is in such an uproar that nothing, not even government works. He causes liberals to have Trump Derangement Syndrome and is a threat to the nations mental health. He must be removed from office. People are going without pay checks and services are shut down. I mean, trump is a wonderful guy and all and has the best of intentions, but he is making the majority of Americans sick. We need to do something to save ourselves.

Maybe Trump would act more Presidential if we just declared him Dictator for life...

 

[Indus]

Maybe Trump would act more Presidential if we just declared him Dictator for life...

LOL.. careful. Vive la révolution!

 

[yllus]

It may not even have anything to do with Trump specifically. It could all be on the club managers.

" NJ AG has evidence that managers at Trump’s golf club gave fraudulent green cards & Social Security numbers to employees. "

And if true they should be held accountable.

I agree. This is really business per usual for places like this; it doesn't have to require the personal involvement of Donald Trump.

 

[woolfe9998]

Why is it the least likely? It is more likely that he doesn't know about it IMO.

I do not think he has the time or inclination to micromanage all of his many ventures to this level.

I'm not justifying the actions or if they are even true or not. We do not know for a fact that he knew or did not know. But of course you pretend to know and are ready to convict based solely on that.

I could see him not knowing about the phony green cards and SS numbers, but I think it unlikely he didn't know his golf course was employing undocumented labor. Because it affects the bottom line quite substantially.

 

[woolfe9998]

Mueller himself isn't looking into the immigration issue. It's more likely he's looking at initial funding for all of Trump's golf courses, because several years ago Eric Trump told a golf publication that all the money for those golf courses was borrowed from Russians. He later claimed that he never said that and that the editor of the golf magazine was lying. LOL who do you believe?

The immigration aspect of it was referred to the FBI.

https://www.inquisitr.com/5228804/robert-mueller-investigating-donald-trump-golf-courses/

 

[Moonbeam]

Maybe Trump would act more Presidential if we just declared him Dictator for life...

I was thinking more along the lines of a life sentence.

 

[pcgeek11]

Trump is infamous as a micromanager, so it is entirely likely he does have that inclination.

And this isn't a conviction, drama queen. I would like to see this investigated further, so that we do know the facts regardless of where they might lead. While the purpose of your argument is to stifle discussion and investigation because of who the facts might lead to.

I'm not being dramatic, nobody said it was a conviction.

I haven't suggested any sort of pass, or suggested that it shouldn't be investigated. I also haven't attempted to stifle any discussion or investigation, regardless of who it may lead to. Go back and read what I said.

Post # 7: " And if true they should be held accountable."

 

[pcgeek11]

lol. you really are a pathetic old man. What won't you defend this old shitburger over?

I didn't defend anyone specifically. I was only pointing out the lack of factual information. And that maybe wait until it is investigated before getting out the pitchforks.

Whomever is responsible should be held accountable after the facts are known. As I said earlier.

 

[Greenman]

pcgeek is the biggest cuck bootlicker i've ever seen

I'm detecting hurt feelings. Do you need a hug?

 

[pcgeek11]

At this point, invoking Occam's Razor means that you are an idiot.

I'm not the one throwing assumptions of guilt or innocence around. You are the one assuming guilt.

I don't know and neither do you.

 

[shortylickens]

Trump hypocrisy is so horrid I may just barf the next time I read the news.

 

[pcgeek11]

I could see him not knowing about the phony green cards and SS numbers, but I think it unlikely he didn't know his golf course was employing undocumented labor. Because it affects the bottom line quite substantially.

And that is the topic fake green cards and SS Cards. I highly doubt that Trump micromanages down to this level.

 

[thilanliyan]

And that is the topic fake green cards and SS Cards. I highly doubt that Trump micromanages down to this level.

Of course not, but if he okays employing "illegals" then he is responsible, even if he's not the one handing out the fake green cards.

 

[pcgeek11]

Of course not, but if he okays employing "illegals" then he is responsible, even if he's not the one handing out the fake green cards.

If he does.

It is my opinion that any business employing illegal aliens be punished enough that it hurts.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

And that is the topic fake green cards and SS Cards. I highly doubt that Trump micromanages down to this level.

The appropriate action considering the degree of violation would be fines and removal of business liscenses. Trump wouldn't be personally liable, but the business is sanctioned. If it were to close down (a possibility) then it would be financially adverse.

What I find unlikely is that knowledge of violations were the primary reason for investigations but something which were coincidently revealed while looking into other matters.

 

[K1052]

What I find unlikely is that knowledge of violations were the primary reason for investigations but something which were coincidently revealed while looking into other matters.

Basically the story of what happens once you start looking into Trump's businesses and actions. It's like an unending string off a sweater covering decades of wrongdoing, self dealing, violations, lies, and actual crimes perpetrated by his employees, his companies, or him personally.

 

[pcgeek11]

Basically the story of what happens once you start looking into Trump's businesses and actions. It's like an unending string off a sweater covering decades of wrongdoing, self dealing, violations, lies, and actual crimes perpetrated by his employees, his companies, or him personally.

Well I guess we need to impeach and then prosecute the hell out of him.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Well I guess we need to impeach and then prosecute the hell out of him.

Or prosecute and then impeach. That is actually strategically a better move to deter a Pence pardon.

However I think green cards at golf clubs aren't the main thrust of most anti-Trump sentiments and likely to be inconsequential in any serious civil/criminal trials.

 

[pcgeek11]

LOL.