Discussion NY AG has evidence Trump golf club gave out fraudulent green cards

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Vic

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Gee, it seems like the Trump crowd wasn't being completely honest when they said they were opposed to businesses hiring illegal labor. Shocking.
 

kage69

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*cough*

Yes let's pretend Trump respects labor laws and is an "up to code" kind of guy


"Mr. Trump paid a total of $1.375 million to settle the case, known as Hardy v. Kaszycki, with $500,000 of it going to a union benefits fund and the rest to pay lawyers’ fees and expenses. According to the documents, one of the union lawyers involved asked the judge to ensure “prompt payment” from Mr. Trump, suggesting “within two weeks after the settlement date.”Mr. Trump jumped in to object. “Thirty days is normal,” he said.At the time of the settlement, the court papers note, “this case has been litigated for 15 years and has already required three rounds of discovery, extensive motion practice, a 16-day trial and two appeals.”

For the demolition work, Mr. Trump hired an inexperienced contractor, William Kaszycki of Kaszycki & Sons, for $775,000. Mr. Kaszycki specialized in window and job-site cleaning. His company was renovating an adjoining building for Bonwit Teller, where he employed undocumented Polish workers. Mr. Trump would later testify that he never walked into the adjoining building or noticed the Polish workers. But a foreman on the job, Zbignew Goryn, testified that Mr. Trump visited the site, marveling to him about the Polish crew. "He liked the way the men were working on 57th Street,” Mr. Goryn said. “He said, ‘Those Polish guys are good, hard workers.’”




Any of you mushroom polishers noticing a trend yet?
 
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Jhhnn

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There is no way that they'll be able to hang it on Trump, unless he was the guy actually managing the place.

True, but I think there's a deeper truth in all this. The hospitality industry preferentially hires immigrants for a lot of jobs & doesn't care if they're legal or not. They try not to know. The whole system is designed to accommodate illegals, other than ICE. It's part & parcel of how Trump makes his money.

I figure he's going with this Wall ruse because it sells to the rubes, his people, & not because he believes it will do a damned thing to stop illegal immigration. It's what con artists do.
 
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HomerJS

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He may know then again he may not. There are many many cases where the managers of business' are guilty of crimes and the actual owners know nothing about it. But of course this is Trump and everybody is quick to point fingers with no real facts.
Seriously, you wrote this with a straight face??

FTFY - But of course Trump is quick to point fingers with no real facts.
 

ivwshane

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He may know then again he may not. There are many many cases where the managers of business' are guilty of crimes and the actual owners know nothing about it. But of course this is Trump and everybody is quick to point fingers with no real facts.

This was your response about Hillary's email server when it was pointed out to you that she handed it over to a third parties to save business related emails and to decommission it.

It is her server. She is responsible for everything that happens to it. She knew that the e-mails were on the server and made the false claim that they were no longer. She also gave the server access to a private firm to delete said e-mails. All of this was shown during the investigation. The administration blew it off as she had no intent ...

All of this is public knowledge.

No apology due or coming from me.

Unsurprisingly you have a different set of standards for trump (or anyone on the right) than you do for anyone that has a different opinion than your own.

You purposely misconstrued the facts and refused to support your claims. You came to a conclusion based off of your feels and now when your cult leader faces alligations you suddenly want to ignore the facts and wait for evidence and your position of ultimately being responsible suddenly disappears.

Calling you a hypocrit doesn't really do what you are doing justice. You are a mindless twat stuck in a cult and are completely unaware of it. You are incapable of criticizing your dear leader and are unwilling to hold him accountable.
 

brycejones

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This was your response about Hillary's email server when it was pointed out to you that she handed it over to a third parties to save business related emails and to decommission it.



Unsurprisingly you have a different set of standards for trump (or anyone on the right) than you do for anyone that has a different opinion than your own.

You purposely misconstrued the facts and refused to support your claims. You came to a conclusion based off of your feels and now when your cult leader faces alligations you suddenly want to ignore the facts and wait for evidence and your position of ultimately being responsible suddenly disappears.

Calling you a hypocrit doesn't really do what you are doing justice. You are a mindless twat stuck in a cult and are completely unaware of it. You are incapable of criticizing your dear leader and are unwilling to hold him accountable.

What you don't understand though is buttery emails are really important. Trump hiring illegals and running his businesses in a criminal way is just part of America. Why do you hate America?

Trump will have to kill someone on 5th Avenue while yelling he is really a liberal before pcgeek11 will give a shit.
 
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The Trump family reminds me of the old stereotype of Gypsies. A group of people wandering from town to town trying to grab everything of value by any Legal or Illegal means necessary. Breaking the Law is just a Cost of doing business, not much different from how many other Corporations view Legality as, on certain issues.

Watch this, yes it was a real show from I think 1961

 

UNCjigga

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Wasn't there a story less than 6 months into the Administration about how Trump's golf clubs were doubling their hiring of foreign guest workers under the H-2B visa program? The only program that saw numbers rise when all other immigration visas were facing a crackdown? Doesn't that sound like someone knew it was a problem, and was able to affect policy enough to get a larger allotment of those visas and perhaps shift some of the labor from illegals to guest workers??

Last summer, Trump administration expanded the H-2B visa program for foreign workers from 66,000 visas annually to 81,000. Three days later, Trump businesses requested 76 of those work visas, according to Vox.
 

1sikbITCH

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He may know then again he may not. There are many many cases where the managers of business' are guilty of crimes and the actual owners know nothing about it. But of course this is Trump and everybody is quick to point fingers with no real facts.

Birtherboy brought it on himself.
 

pcgeek11

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This was your response about Hillary's email server when it was pointed out to you that she handed it over to a third parties to save business related emails and to decommission it.



Unsurprisingly you have a different set of standards for trump (or anyone on the right) than you do for anyone that has a different opinion than your own.

You purposely misconstrued the facts and refused to support your claims. You came to a conclusion based off of your feels and now when your cult leader faces alligations you suddenly want to ignore the facts and wait for evidence and your position of ultimately being responsible suddenly disappears.

Calling you a hypocrit doesn't really do what you are doing justice. You are a mindless twat stuck in a cult and are completely unaware of it. You are incapable of criticizing your dear leader and are unwilling to hold him accountable.

No, I don't. This thing with green cards and SS Cards hasn't even been investigated yet. So your are again full of crap. As usual. If you took the time to read my post's you would see that I said the responsible party should be held accountable. Regardless of who it is.
 
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