NY senator fights airline carry-on bag fee

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rockyct

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You're late to the game... http://current.newsweek.com/budgettravel/2009/02/how_much_is_ryanairs_bathroom.html.

At some point airlines will figure out what customers are willing to pay for and what they are not. Enough customers will likely tolerate fees for carry on bags will likely (IMO) that at least a few airlines will implement this. Fees for the bathroom, on the other hand, will probably backfire (again, IMO).
Yeah, I heard Ryanair started doing that but they don't fly in the US as far as I know. Although, they basically are our equivalent of Spirit.
 

Saga

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Wouldn't the only real thing accomplished here be increased ticket prices?
 

BreastInspector

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Well that wouldn't be hard if you really wanted to do it.

You simply the thing they roll over to the plane door be longer and have 2 on each side of the plane.

Doesn't seem like a big enough benefit for the retooling costs though, I wouldn't do it.

The larger airports board A380's with three jetways. Two coach one First Class/Business.
 

Ancalagon44

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If they reduce the total ticket price by the price of the carry on fee such that the total fee remains the same, I'd be fine with that. Only pay for what you use.

But we all know that they wont do that. Ticket prices will go up while service levels drop, and we'll be reminded how much things have improved in the last 50 years.
 

obamanation

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So, how exactly would you design an airport to get jetways to 4 entrances on every single plane?
Well in the old days people would use ladders and climb into the plane. As for now, they could maybe have one entrance that is at the plane level and the rest of the entrances be on the ground. If you want to get to your seat faster and get onto the plane sooner, you walk outside and climb into the plane. The skywalk that goes directly into the plane would be for those who are willing to wait or for the disabled.
 

purbeast0

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So, how exactly would you design an airport to get jetways to 4 entrances on every single plane?

just went to barbados a few weeks ago and at the barbados airport they unload the airplanes from the front and rear exits
 

Genx87

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These airliens are testing our patience. At some point we simply stop flying and they pull back.
 

Bignate603

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Well in the old days people would use ladders and climb into the plane. As for now, they could maybe have one entrance that is at the plane level and the rest of the entrances be on the ground. If you want to get to your seat faster and get onto the plane sooner, you walk outside and climb into the plane. The skywalk that goes directly into the plane would be for those who are willing to wait or for the disabled.

You'd end up with somebody in the back that wants to get out the front because they don't want to go down on the tarmac. People trying to go opposite directions will make it worse, not better. You can tell them they need to wait all you want but it won't work, they'll still stand in the aisles and block everyone else. Also, having two exits at the front and two at the back won't be any better than one at each end. The bottleneck on single aisle planes is getting down the aisle, adding an extra exit once they've gotten out of the aisle isn't going to speed anything up.

Unloading people from the rear of the plane onto the tarmac is probably a bad idea anyways. With the service trucks, the engines that may be turning on and off, and just general safety and security it would be ill advised to have passengers wandering around on the tarmac. It would require a person or two back there to herd the passengers. Paying extra people for that could very easily wipe out the savings you'd get for unloading a few minutes faster.

just went to barbados a few weeks ago and at the barbados airport they unload the airplanes from the front and rear exits

I've been in one airport where they did they unloaded from the front and back, but I've never seen one where they load from both ends.
 

Linflas

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If they reduce the total ticket price by the price of the carry on fee such that the total fee remains the same, I'd be fine with that. Only pay for what you use.

But we all know that they wont do that. Ticket prices will go up while service levels drop, and we'll be reminded how much things have improved in the last 50 years.

In 1977 it would cost me $200.00 for a round trip flight from Jacksonville, FL to Washington DC. In inflation adjusted dollars that would be roughly $700.00 today. The only way that flight would cost me more than $250.00 today would be if I wanted to hop on a plane this Friday and return Sunday with no flexibility in my travel plans. Even with all the nuisance fees flying today is far cheaper than it was in the days of the CAA.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Hey let's FORCE THE AIRLINES TO BE POLICE and see if we can make an already poorly run quasi-socialist system break.
 
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