lol - spoke the truth? The truth of what?
I guess that's the same truth that gets told in Chicago. That shitty behavior is not their fault and that it's always somebody else's? It works so well for them.
Of course you are 100% correct!! Guiliani and Bllomberg turned a blind eye to Police abuse of powers and corruption.......just because the current mayor spoke the truth...
Not if the community believes he tossed them under the bus prior to the killings.
are you that dense???lol - spoke the truth? The truth of what?
I guess you believe that the Police should be able to act with impunity?I guess that's the same truth that gets told in Chicago. That shitty behavior is not their fault and that it's always somebody else's? It works so well for them.
Yes, a mayor who has used a forked tongue to score political points by catering to minorities at the expense of the rest of the city.
I think this would be a great time to show the world exactly what NYC acts like once you remove a pretty decent police force that keeps things livable in that disgusting city. People should be reminded that the Broken Window Theory actually worked well in NYC and that it can go back to the shithole it was 30 years ago pretty quickly.
I'd support replacing every single officer in leadership position who supports this "protest". You don't fucking protest on the public's dime, do that shit on your own time. You're 100% right about unions in public positions. The public's ability to control government is through election. If the elected officials can't fire their employees because of a union the union has (I believe illegally) taken power from a public official. Maybe something is in their state constitution regarding it... That would still stink to high heavens.It's always amusing and ironic when socialists and unions get at each other's throats. This is a good example of why public employees shouldn't be allowed to form unions. It just encourages cronyism and gives too much power to unelected officials. Fire the buggers if they're not doing their jobs. All of them if you have to. That's what Reagan did with the ATC workers.
On the flip side...
I know very little about New York City politics. I do remember hearing on the radio that people were saying that DeBlasio was going to be a problem. Especially on the law and order front. That was back when he was elected. A lot of cops feel that he encouraged anti-police protests which led to the shooting. The man seems to waffle about trying to keep both sides happy. That's not leadership though. If the police are racist, condemn them. If the protesters are violent or inciting violence, condemn them. Man the hell up and lead.
I'd support replacing every single officer in leadership position who supports this "protest". You don't fucking protest on the public's dime, do that shit on your own time. You're 100% right about unions in public positions. The public's ability to control government is through election. If the elected officials can't fire their employees because of a union the union has (I believe illegally) taken power from a public official. Maybe something is in their state constitution regarding it... That would still stink to high heavens.
With regards to DeBlasio, it seems to me that anything less than 100% support for the cops=anti-cop hate (from the cop's pov). Not sure they are giving him a fair chance at all. They basically accuse him of inciting the assignations, which is incredibly dishonest.
In a tweet, former New York Gov. George Pataki called the killings the "predictable outcome of divisive, anti-cop rhetoric of Attorney General Eric Holder and Bill De Blasio."
are you that dense???
Mayor de Blasio tells his son to be careful w/ police, because they can overreact. In response, they overreact.
The police got all butt hurt over that....
Yes, a mayor who has used a forked tongue to score political points by catering to minorities at the expense of the rest of the city.
I think this would be a great time to show the world exactly what NYC acts like once you remove a pretty decent police force that keeps things livable in that disgusting city. People should be reminded that the Broken Window Theory actually worked well in NYC and that it can go back to the shithole it was 30 years ago pretty quickly.
A lot of Millennials have no idea what NY was like in the 1970s-80s. Those soft in the center Hipsters would shit their pants if they had to get on a subway in 1978.
I really don't give a shit about politicians being politicians, as if that isn't a story as old as time. The problem here is how you're reducing what happened to Eric Garner and the mayor's reaction to that to be 'catering to minorities.' That reaction speaks for itself in my opinion, but to further state it anyway, getting away with murdering innocent Americans, regardless of their skin color that is caught on tape is not something people are going to stand for anymore. This should be everyone's problem as Americans. The way you stated it says it all to me personally.
I would venture to bet the protests would have been a lot more severe had he backed the cops on what happened. Yes, there are shady political gains to be had, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it was the right thing to do here in my opinion.
The 'alternative' of, "well yeah, but look how much worse it COULD be" is not justification for an epidemic of police brutality and violence against American citizens.
Why doesn't DeBlasio tell his son to not be a punk, don't break the law, and be a normal citizen. Why doesn't he tell the population he told his son that?
Ohh please. DeDouchio starts talking about how his son needs to be careful of cops and respectful. Wow, gee, that's the same shit my dad told me 30 years ago and I'm white. It's no worse than Michelle Obama turning an old/short lady asking for something on a high shelf of a 5'11" woman, into a race issue.
This race baiting, "police brutality" bullshit being spewed everywhere through forked tongues of politicians and the media is part of the problem. Sure, there is racism and bad cops, but people are getting tired of *EVERYTHING* being called racism, or the media using it to their advantage.
Look at Beyonce/Jay-Z. They keep perpetuating this "hands up, don't shoot" bullshit even though it has been thoroughly debunked. Why? Because it sells records, caters to popularity, and isolates the people from the real problem.
Why doesn't DeBlasio tell his son to not be a punk, don't break the law, and be a normal citizen. Why doesn't he tell the population he told his son that?
Because it doesn't get you elected, isn't popular, and focuses on the real problem.
The (insert city name here) cops are like a group of thugs or gang members, not police officers.
As someone stated earlier, fire them all Reagan style. This is ridiculous.
NYC was turned around by going after petty crime. By nipping the problem in the bud, before many of these people progressed to more and more severe crimes, they went from most dangerous large city to safest large city.
After an over-weight person in poor health was attempted to be talked down for 5 minutes, the police put him in a questionable hold, during which time, he was still able to breath (you can't speak if you can't breath, duh). Well after the hold was released, the fat, in poor health person succumbed to heart problems. The news and mayor mischaracterized what happened and threw the police under the bus.
The NYPD sounds like a group of thugs or gang members, not police officers.
As someone stated earlier, fire them all Reagan style. This is ridiculous.
NYC was turned around by going after petty crime. By nipping the problem in the bud, before many of these people progressed to more and more severe crimes, they went from most dangerous large city to safest large city.
After an over-weight person in poor health was attempted to be talked down for 5 minutes, the police put him in a questionable hold, during which time, he was still able to breath (you can't speak if you can't breath, duh). Well after the hold was released, the fat, in poor health person succumbed to heart problems. The news and mayor mischaracterized what happened and threw the police under the bus.
You and a Perknose both expressed exactly the real truth of the matter!! Yet those who support the Police or turn a blind eye to the obvious honestly believe the police are justified in whatever they do!!The 'alternative' of, "well yeah, but look how much worse it COULD be" is not justification for an epidemic of police brutality and violence against American citizens.
Your inability to acknowledge that there are real, systemic problems in this country with race is the definition of privilege. You can whine and scream and blame rappers or the media all you want, but the problems have existed forever and have not gone away, nor will they in our lifetime. Reducing this situation so myopically and discarding it as ploy for ratings is troubling to say the least. The difference between back then and today is that it's possible for these atrocities to be captured and uploaded to the Internet by anyone.
The media has operated in this fashion for everything since the 24 hour news day became the norm. This is a known entity, it should absolutely not undermine the reality of the situation. Blaming some external factor is a convenient way to discard the importance of the message and avoid having to deal with it in my opinion.
Truth be told the cops brought this on themselves.....the City is anti Cop.....Don't see the issue with this, they are still doing their job. They are just more concerned about their safety on the job, which is perfectly reasonable as the Mayor pretty much put those two cops to death. City is going downhill with a mayor that is anti-cop.
Crime has been going down nationally. NYC is not special. I say fire all the cops and rehire them at half wages. Without pensions. PERIOD.NYC was turned around by going after petty crime. By nipping the problem in the bud, before many of these people progressed to more and more severe crimes, they went from most dangerous large city to safest large city.