NYPD not making minor arrests or traffic stops

[DrPizza]

so after you exhaust all the air in your lungs screaming i can't breathe an officer laying on his back compressing his chest not allowing it to expand to suck in more air is still breathing. i get it.

so let me guess this straight boa constrictors kill animals with heart problems?

Apparently you haven't seen the video. Or, you're greatly mistaken. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-xHqf1BVE4
Or lying.

 

[Platypus]

Yes, it's everybody else's problem. It's why my black friends in professional careers face harassment by friends/family that they are "too white".

I fully acknowledge that there are racist assholes out there, but blaming them for everything that is afflicting minorities is ridiculous. Other minorities have scraped out an existence in this country that has worked very well for them without resorting to constant race baiting and ridiculous magician's cup tricks to duhvert the population.

70% of black kids are born to single mothers. 70% don't have a good father figure. 70-fucking-percent. Both Trayvon and Brown had broken families, both were in drugs, both acted out, both had problems in school. Do you think these are also caused by the police or disparate treatment, or do you think it is caused by some people in their culture not focusing on part of the problem that could fix a lot of their issues.

People like you have problems with racial profiling in airports, thus forcing the screening of 80 year old women in wheel chairs with an oxy tank. You're from Chicago so it's not much of a surprise.

No it's everyone's problem, not everyone elses. There is a very important difference. It's up to all of us to stop it. No one is blaming racist assholes for all problems that impact minorities in this country, that's you putting words in my (and others' ?) mouth for the sake of defeating an argument that was never made, at least not be me.

Finding ways to justify the mistreatment of others in a completely unrelated situation is just sad and troubling, sorry.

And yes, I live in Chicago, but I was not born here nor does where I live make a single difference in how I think, and you really don't know a fucking thing about me. So please don't pretend to make assumptions about my opinions on racial profiling. It's just embarrassing, really. Not everything is binary, no matter how hard you wish it were.

 

[DrPizza]

Crime has been going down nationally. NYC is not special. I say fire all the cops and rehire them at half wages. Without pensions. PERIOD.

NYC's crime statistics have fallen FAR more than national averages.

 

[amdhunter]

As a minority in NYC I applaud any attempts that minimizes my interactions with the NYPD. I've always felt that the Police themselves are more likely to murder or harm me more than any random "criminal" would.

Every interaction I've had with the Police in my lifetime was because I "fit" the description of one thing or another. I have never commited a crime, nor intend to. But I know I am automatically a criminal when stopped.

That said, there are a bunch of NYPD officers in my family and I have many friends that are either ex- or current NYPD or FBI. They don't seemed to worried about anything being more or less threatening about their jobs these days. It's just loudmouths going back and forth for TV.

The slowdown is about cutting funds to the city more than anything - NYPD giving out less tickets mean less money for the city. Gives them an immense amount of ground when it comes to negotiation.

People are going to hate DeBlasio for the same reason they hate Obama; because he is seen as a politician who supports "Blacks" and their plights. It doesn't matter if he intentions are good, it's just most in power [monetarily and racially] don't care enough about minorities at all, whether they'd like to admit it or not.

 

[jlee]

Crime has been going down nationally. NYC is not special. I say fire all the cops and rehire them at half wages. Without pensions. PERIOD.

Lol, everybody would leave. You think it'd be nice, but wait and see.

 

[Phoenix86]

NYC was turned around by going after petty crime. By nipping the problem in the bud, before many of these people progressed to more and more severe crimes, they went from most dangerous large city to safest large city.

After an over-weight person in poor health was attempted to be talked down for 5 minutes, the police put him in a questionable hold, during which time, he was still able to breath (you can't speak if you can't breath, duh). Well after the hold was released, the fat, in poor health person succumbed to heart problems. The news and mayor mischaracterized what happened and threw the police under the bus.

I understand and agree with your first paragraph.

Let me type the second one another way, where the crime isn't ignored, yet the police make smarter decisions.

After an over-weight person in poor health was writen a ticket for a ticket-able offense instead of initiating a physical confrontation.

The End.

 

[Zargon]

Lol, everybody would leave. You think it'd be nice, but wait and see.

yeah, cop exodus. there wouldn't be enough willing to stick around and take all that crap for no pay

 

[LegendKiller]

No it's everyone's problem, not everyone elses. There is a very important difference. It's up to all of us to stop it. No one is blaming racist assholes for all problems that impact minorities in this country, that's you putting words in my (and others' ?) mouth for the sake of defeating an argument that was never made, at least not be me.

Finding ways to justify the mistreatment of others in a completely unrelated situation is just sad and troubling, sorry.

And yes, I live in Chicago, but I was not born here nor does where I live make a single difference in how I think, and you really don't know a fucking thing about me. So please don't pretend to make assumptions about my opinions on racial profiling. It's just embarrassing, really. Not everything is binary, no matter how hard you wish it were.

So you are more than willing to profile cops, claim police brutality carte blanche, and not consider context while ignoring statistics, but don't like that to be used against you.

Got it.

 

[TheSlamma]

I can't believe how childish, immature and irresponsible the police are being.

Yes you can

 

[JEDIYoda]

The New York Times condemned what it called the “disgraceful acts” of “passive-aggressive contempt and self-pity,”

What is interesting is that even the NY Times has waded in on this iisue--
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...-the-nypd-funeral-protest-backlash?cmpid=yhoo

Before NYPD Officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu were ambushed while on patrol in Brooklyn, the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, a police union, encouraged officers to sign a letter asking New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio not to attend their funerals if they were killed in the line of duty. But Ramos’ family said that de Blasio was welcome to his funeral, and instead it was police officers who were accused of dishonoring the memory of their fallen comrade.

Hundreds of officers turned their backs on de Blasio at the funeral in a form of protest that has been called inappropriate and disgraceful, and drawn comparisons to the Westboro Baptist Church, a group known for protesting at funerals. At the very least, it seemed hypocritical, given that anti-police-brutality protesters were asked to stop protesting until after the funeral (they did not).

The latest and possibly strongest reaction against the protest comes from the New York Times editorial board. In Tuesday's paper the board condemned what it called the “disgraceful acts” of “passive-aggressive contempt and self-pity,” (including prior anti-de Blasio snubs and individuals booing the mayor at a police academy graduation on Monday) led by police unions.


They have taken the most grave and solemn of civic moments — a funeral of a fallen colleague — and hijacked it for their own petty look-at-us gesture. In doing so, they also turned their backs on Mr. Ramos’s widow and her two young sons, and others in that grief-struck family.

there is a lot more but they make a real good point...
In Tuesday's paper the board condemned what it called the “disgraceful acts” of “passive-aggressive contempt and self-pity,”

 

[highland145]

JY, how do the wives/kids feel about the mayor?

 

[videogames101]

Unfucking believable, put on your god damn big boy pants and act like men. Jesus Christ, hearing about these police and mayor antics is driving me up a wall. You'd think they were 8 year olds on the playground. When you sacrifice you're pride like this, what are you worth to anyone. Anyone else have absolutely no confidence in the assholes running this game?

As for the real problems here, police brutality is a real issue and police unions have created an environment where nothing can be done about it. Go find that video of the Minneapolis police chief who go a vote of no-confidence by the police union for firing the cop who shot a mentally disabled dude 14 times. We have real problems, and until these idiots are kicked out of power they won't be solved, they CAN'T be solved. Shit grinds my gears.

 

[Rakehellion]

They're not writing traffic tickets or locking up some guy for 1/2 oz weed. Or choking out the next Eric Garner.

Everyone should be happy, right?

This.

 

[Rakehellion]

Apparently you haven't seen the video. Or, you're greatly mistaken. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-xHqf1BVE4
Or lying.

Exhalation != Inhalation

Apparently he was using the illegal chokehold as a display of affection since it has no effect on breathing.

 

[Dari]

LegendKiller, NYC is not "disgusting". It's the greatest city in the world. Just because you couldn't make it here doesn't make it any less great. The City ran you out, nothing else to say.

As for the police, they're throwing their toys out of the crib in response to the mayor speaking the truth. It's ok. These assholes are in the denial phase. It's a long road to a better, stronger NYPD.

 

[Rakehellion]

After an over-weight person in poor health was attempted to be talked down for 5 minutes, the police put him in a questionable hold, during which time, he was still able to breath (you can't speak if you can't breath, duh). Well after the hold was released, the fat, in poor health person succumbed to heart problems. The news and mayor mischaracterized what happened and threw the police under the bus.

The police have abused citizens for decades. People aren't upset because some guy died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adiy075EGOs

 

[BoberFett]

As a minority in NYC I applaud any attempts that minimizes my interactions with the NYPD. I've always felt that the Police themselves are more likely to murder or harm me more than any random "criminal" would.

Understandable...

Every interaction I've had with the Police in my lifetime was because I "fit" the description of one thing or another. I have never commited a crime, nor intend to. But I know I am automatically a criminal when stopped.

I can see your point...

That said, there are a bunch of NYPD officers in my family and I have many friends that are either ex- or current NYPD or FBI. They don't seemed to worried about anything being more or less threatening about their jobs these days. It's just loudmouths going back and forth for TV.

Mmhhmm...

The slowdown is about cutting funds to the city more than anything - NYPD giving out less tickets mean less money for the city. Gives them an immense amount of ground when it comes to negotiation.

Yep, cops are more about revenue than stopping crime these days....

People are going to hate DeBlasio for the same reason they hate Obama; because he is seen as a politician who supports "Blacks" and their plights. It doesn't matter if he intentions are good, it's just most in power [monetarily and racially] don't care enough about minorities at all, whether they'd like to admit it or not.

I agr.... Awww, you had to ruin a good post by being really, really, REALLY stupid in your last paragraph.

 

[Rakehellion]

So you are more than willing to profile cops, claim police brutality carte blanche, and not consider context while ignoring statistics, but don't like that to be used against you.

Got it.

"Context."

Crime has gone down 94% in NYC in the last week. Does this mean that New Yorkers are committing less crime?

Whites are a majority of the general population but a minority of the prison population. Does this mean that they're committing less crime?

 

[brianmanahan]

As should the mayor.

i thought the only thing the mayor said was that he's taught his half-black son to take special care around the police

which is good advice, all things considered, and does not seem like something that the police should be offended by

 

[Rakehellion]

I agr.... Awww, you had to ruin a good post by being really, really, REALLY stupid in your last paragraph.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=DeBlasio+great person+lover

 

[Dari]

People need to keep in mind that most of the traffic stops and summons are done by the TRAFFIC cops. They wear blue just like the regular cops but don't carry a badge and are not in the same precincts. Their cars are also different. They make a lot of the money for the City, at least when it comes to traffic. As for the regular police, they are in negotiations with the City right now and are trying to pressure the politicians into giving them what they want, even if it means parading dead cops around. With that said, a lot of the beat cops get their instructions from the top brass. They tell them what to do and what not to do. This feud with the NYPD should start and stop with the top brass.

 

[lxskllr]

I agr.... Awww, you had to ruin a good post by being really, really, REALLY stupid in your last paragraph.

He's not that far off base. Many negative interactions with cops are by (black)dirtbags. Dirtbags don't get much sympathy, but our rights don't apply to the sympathetic only. *Everybody* has the same rights, and should be treated with the same amount of respect, whether you want to or not.

 

[highland145]

i thought the only thing the mayor said was that he's taught his half-black son to take special care around the police

which is good advice, all things considered, and does not seem like something that the police should be offended by

My parents taught me to respect them.


They also told me to not call the house if I got arrested because they didn't know me.:\

So far, after 50 years, that's worked.

 

[BoberFett]

He's not that far off base. Many negative interactions with cops are by (black)dirtbags. Dirtbags don't get much sympathy, but our rights don't apply to the sympathetic only. *Everybody* has the same rights, and should be treated with the same amount of respect, whether you want to or not.

So that means that people disagree with the mayor because they hate black people? Is that you Kanye?

People might dislike him for a variety of reasons, some of them stupid. But the race card is getting really, really old.

 

[DrDoug]

NYC was turned around by going after petty crime. By nipping the problem in the bud, before many of these people progressed to more and more severe crimes, they went from most dangerous large city to safest large city.

After an over-weight person in poor health was attempted to be talked down for 5 minutes, the police put him in a questionable hold, during which time, he was still able to breath (you can't speak if you can't breath, duh). Well after the hold was released, the fat, in poor health person succumbed to heart problems. The news and mayor mischaracterized what happened and threw the police under the bus.

Are you aware that the medical examiner ruled his death at the hands of the police a homicide? Regarding his saying he couldn't breathe and yet being able to speak; try cutting off your carotid arteries for a short time and tell me how it feels. You are breathing fine but you are losing oxygen to the brain, which makes it feel like you can't breathe.