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Markbnj

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NYC is a fucking disgusting city. It's the only place I have seen a homeless guy masturbate on the subway, piss on a car hood in the middle of an intersection, and shit 10' away from the main doors to GCT (right across from Pershing Sq diner).

Have you been to San Francisco? London? Mexico City? Paris?
 

FirNaTine

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WRONG? not!! You are aware the medical examiner did say that this type of restraint did lead to the death of the individual?

Or are you more knowledgeable than the medical examiner...

Citation please that the NECK restraint lead to the death

Many keep referring to the neck restraint, but the only direct quote I can find attributed to the ME's office is "the compression of his chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police," city medical examiner spokeswoman Julie Bolcer said.
 
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uclaLabrat

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Dude, it doesn't matter what you think of NYC on a personal level, but if you don't number it among the top ten great human cities your objectivity is open to question.
NYC is a vortex of fail. On every level. I lived there for two years and again, it doesn't Crack the top ten. I would say it's on par with El paso but I've never been to El paso and i would hate to offend the denizens of that locale
 

FirNaTine

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Citation please that the NECK restraint lead to the death

Many keep referring to the neck restraint, but the only direct quote I can find attributed to the ME's office is "the compression of his chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police," city medical examiner spokeswoman Julie Bolcer said.

And to follow-up, I searched for direct quotes attributed to the ME's spokesperson.

Many headlines and articles refer to the "chokehold death," but I've yet to see an actual quote attributed to the ME's office contradicting what I posted.

And so you know, the third or so hit in the news search for that http://dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1086&ArticleID=139684
 

Blackjack200

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Been to San Fran, London, and Paris. Never saw a guy masturbating on public transit in any of those 3.

Which means it never happens.

Seriously, these cities have millions of people, some of them are mentally ill.

I remember a couple of years ago some guy walking down Broad Street in Philadelphia masturbating.
 

uclaLabrat

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LMAO at NYC not being a top 10 city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city

"Alpha++ cities are London and New York City, which are vastly more integrated with the global economy than all other cities."
No one is arguing that NYC isn't a financial hub, if not THE financial hub, of the US, and therefore the world. But it's still a shitty place to live unless you're pulling over $300K per year. Even then, my personal preferences wouldn't lead me to live there unless I was pulling over a million.
 

Dari

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No one is arguing that NYC isn't a financial hub, if not THE financial hub, of the US, and therefore the world. But it's still a shitty place to live unless you're pulling over $300K per year. Even then, my personal preferences wouldn't lead me to live there unless I was pulling over a million.

You lived around Columbia, right? Explains a lot. That area is shit. I've been to many cities. The only other place I would live are Tokyo, Japan, where the quality of life is beyond anywhere else on earth, even socialist northern Europe. But, it can be sterile and stifling.

Again, privacy matters to me. I don't want to know my neighbors and what they're doing and I sure as hell don't want them to know my business. Also, I like having choices when it comes to food. Not just any food, but simply the best, from every country on earth. No other place offers what New York offers.
 

Dari

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I'd question your judgment but I have the body of your posting history to make that assessment and know it's garbage.

Ouch. Want to start insulting each other? My posting history is littered with those as well.

EDIT: Anyway, we both know you got some type of graduate degree in Chemistry or whatever the fuck so you could not possible afford NYC. Envy like that can cloud your judgement. After all, being on a junior level research scientist income can't take you far. Better to put those student discounts to good use at The Olive Garden...
 
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Markbnj

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NYC is a vortex of fail. On every level. I lived there for two years and again, it doesn't Crack the top ten. I would say it's on par with El paso but I've never been to El paso and i would hate to offend the denizens of that locale

Well, since you lived there for two years any questioning of your objectivity would be meaningless. Your deep expertise is evident in your clearly unbiased assessment .
 

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If I compress your arteries, your airway is free and you will very likely not experience air hunger.

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"Air hunger"? Let's see... according to you, restricting the flow of blood (which carries life-sustaining oxygen) to the brain doesn't result in "air hunger".

Just death, right?
 

Blackjack200

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No one is arguing that NYC isn't a financial hub, if not THE financial hub, of the US, and therefore the world. But it's still a shitty place to live unless you're pulling over $300K per year. Even then, my personal preferences wouldn't lead me to live there unless I was pulling over a million.

What you said was

NYC is not the greatest city in the world. That shit hole doesn't even break the top ten. Have you been to any other city?

It's not just finance, although that's extremely important. It's a concentration of intelligent, talented people. Culture, opportunity, diversity, commerce, industry, far beyond what's available anywhere in the world besides London. It's a shitty place to live if the downsides of city living - stinky summers and human traffic jams - bother you too much.
 

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You can keep your massive city with ridiculous living expenses, noise, crowds, smells, crime levels, "diversity" (whatever the heck that is supposed to mean anymore), I'll take my house in the nice quiet country with plenty of space that cost me a fraction of what an apartment even half the size would cost there.

I will never understand the draw of a big city.
 

Craig234

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It's always amusing and ironic when socialists and unions get at each other's throats. This is a good example of why public employees shouldn't be allowed to form unions. It just encourages cronyism and gives too much power to unelected officials. Fire the buggers if they're not doing their jobs. All of them if you have to. That's what Reagan did with the ATC workers.

On the flip side...

I know very little about New York City politics. I do remember hearing on the radio that people were saying that DeBlasio was going to be a problem. Especially on the law and order front. That was back when he was elected. A lot of cops feel that he encouraged anti-police protests which led to the shooting. The man seems to waffle about trying to keep both sides happy. That's not leadership though. If the police are racist, condemn them. If the protesters are violent or inciting violence, condemn them. Man the hell up and lead.

What a bunch of nonsense.

Socialists at odds with unionists is just fine - there's supposed to be some conflict. The alternative is a screw-the-worker approach that hurts the middle class (oh wait, that's America post-Reagan as nearly everyone in America has stopped getting any share of economic growth and the rich get it all). Countries like France have a lot of strikes - and a lot of advantages for the workers as a benefit.

Of course you have a very practical solution, fire all NYC police.

Oh, 'people saying on the radie De Blasio would be a problem'. That's quality information.

He's an excellent mayor.

These police behaviors are showing how reform WAS badly needed, that there's a reason why he won by running on that.

This isn't a case of him being 'anti-police' or wrong on the issues. It's a case of union thuggery and police thuggery.

Turns out the NYC police have behaved this way for a long time, decades. They're wrong here.

These two murders of police had basically nothing to do with the protests, which advocated the opposite of those crimes. A crazy criminal used them as an excuse.

The alternative you are suggesting is that people not be allowed to protest, or at least that the mayor oppose their right to protest, and to take the wrong side on the issues.

You say he is waffling - I haven't seen it. I've seen him do very well with the issues, which just happen to have more than one simple side.

He's showing very good leadership - the problem is your citizenship.

You ask for him to condemn racism by police and violence by protestors. He's done both.
 

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DeBlasio on the same day tried to make amends with police union, while his staff was calling every Democrat in the state telling them it was their duty to bash the police for dissing him.

NYC is an example of what happens when parasites latch on to a big healthy host.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Ahem, if I may: I present a personal expression of my sentiments vis a vis the general state of affairs regarding the New York Police Department:


"Tiny dick sons of bitches that work in NY go all around the eastern seaboard pushing their tiny peckers in the faces of whoever will listen.

God they love to throw that badge around.

"I could have this whole place shut down, you better give me..."

FUCK YOU PIG.

Honestly, I am courteous, respectful, and appreciative of the job undertaken by the police.

But the fucking pigs of the NYPD should do us all a favor. Stop and search? Fuck you for using the constitution of my country to wipe your fucking ass.

FUCK YOU PIGS!"

I believe we should start a kickstart to run this sentiment as a full page add in the NewYork times. Or perhaps a billboard simply saying "FUCK YOU PIGS!" as one enters NY from NJ?

Perhaps radio adds that simply run the following bit of song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTR-wF4in6I&t=3m58s


I would also like to note that I recently observed the portland police in action: They were incredibly courteous and friendly; no joke: they just acted like good guys, even to the homeless people they were conversing with.

Of course the homeless people, themselves, were well mannered and well spoken... so there's that.
 
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Dari

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You can keep your massive city with ridiculous living expenses, noise, crowds, smells, crime levels, "diversity" (whatever the heck that is supposed to mean anymore), I'll take my house in the nice quiet country with plenty of space that cost me a fraction of what an apartment even half the size would cost there.

I will never understand the draw of a big city.

Diversity means exactly what it's defined as: variety of opinions and choices. But the quiet life can also be a draw. Different strokes for different folks.
 

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It's like one side is the saint and the other the sinner. That's so naive it's hard to believe anyone would really think that. From Cuomo on down this is the most corrupt state I've lived in. Does that make the police always innocent? No. So what's happening? The police are having a feud with the mayor and they aren't issuing frigging parking tickets and busting someone for having a joint. If the mayor said "hey let's do that" people would be going "YAY". Friggin Colorado is breaking Federal law because the President says "Hey go ahead" and "YAY". This is just petty crap that NYC deserves because it's worked hard for its Boss Tweeds before and after Tammany Hall. The mayor and police are what was asked for if not in words but by how foolish people who live there are. My wish is that the rest of us could split that corner of the state off and ship the Albany puppets and Emperor Cuomo with them to form the 51st state so the rest of us could be left in peace.
 

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But, you know what, I rather live here than anywhere else. Too much upsides to the downsides you mentioned. Way too much. Enjoy wherever the fuck you are and I will enjoy this wonderful City...
I never really understand why people want to live in big cities unless they are stinking rich so that they can have the room. On my income I live in a fairly good size house I bought new and has a huge yard, good schools, etc. In NYC I'd have a cramped living space with virtually no room to call my own. Like sardines in a can. I have been to some of the world's big cities. Somebody mentioned Mexico City above, but that's a shithole so doesn't count. I know it's huge, but it's basically a slum.

When I was in NYC last though I saw a scant number of kids. I haven't looked at demographics but at least in the part of manhattan I was in it seemed virtually devoid of kids; really just a place for singles/people who've not yet had kids/people who can't have kids or don't want them/old people.
 
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Blackjack200

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I never really understand why people want to live in big cities unless they are stinking rich so that they can have the room. On my income I live in a fairly good size house I bought new and has a huge yard, good schools, etc. In NYC I'd have a cramped living space with virtually no room to call my own. Like sardines in a can. I have been to some of the world's big cities. Somebody mentioned Mexico City above, but that's a shithole so doesn't count. I know it's huge, but it's basically a slum.

When I was in NYC last though I saw a scant number of kids. I haven't looked at demographics but at least in the part of manhattan I was in it seemed virtually devoid of kids; really just a place for singles/people who've not yet had kids/people who can't have kids or don't want them/old people.

I live in downtown Philadelphia and pay $700 for my half of a 1,000 sq. foot apartment. I don't feel like I'm living like a sardine at all. If I made triple my income (not unreasonable for someon in NYC) and paid $2500 I could split a $5,000 apartment in NYC and have some space. It won't be as much as you have, but that's not really important to me right now.

There are no children in NYC.
 

K1052

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Been to San Fran, London, and Paris. Never saw a guy masturbating on public transit in any of those 3.

I visit NYC fairly regularly for work and fun, in general I'd say I see maybe 1/10th the sketchy stuff I see on a daily basis in SF. Yes, that includes someone masturbating on public transit. Saw a guy take a dump on a BART train once too.

The garbage on the sidewalks really sucks during the summer though. The city should consider investing in large scale pneumatic collection like Roosevelt Island has.
 
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