NYPD not making minor arrests or traffic stops

[K1052]

When the LIRR (railroad) was threatening a strike, people said the same thing about the public no longer supporting them against the evil big money honchos, but guess what? In the end they got their money and the public went back to business as usual and nobody cares the union was being greedy. Not until the next contract squabble. The public just lives in the now. The police union are not going to be any worse off for taking this stand. Too bad.

Really different animals. The police are the most visible arm of the government have have far more contact on a daily basis with the public than MTA employes.

 

[Mai72]

My fear of the cops is that of a white nerd. Most cops don't like the nerdy type. Why is this?

 

[Rakehellion]

No one is arguing that NYC isn't a financial hub, if not THE financial hub, of the US, and therefore the world. But it's still a shitty place to live unless you're pulling over $300K per year. Even then, my personal preferences wouldn't lead me to live there unless I was pulling over a million.

So you're just too poor to live there. Not the city's fault.

 

[WelshBloke]

NYC is an example of what happens when parasites latch on to a big healthy host.

The NYPD may be moderately dysfunctional but calling it a parasite is a bit much. :sneaky:

It's like one side is the saint and the other the sinner. That's so naive it's hard to believe anyone would really think that. From Cuomo on down this is the most corrupt state I've lived in. Does that make the police always innocent? No. So what's happening? The police are having a feud with the mayor and they aren't issuing frigging parking tickets and busting someone for having a joint. If the mayor said "hey let's do that" people would be going "YAY". Friggin Colorado is breaking Federal law because the President says "Hey go ahead" and "YAY". This is just petty crap that NYC deserves because it's worked hard for its Boss Tweeds before and after Tammany Hall. The mayor and police are what was asked for if not in words but by how foolish people who live there are. My wish is that the rest of us could split that corner of the state off and ship the Albany puppets and Emperor Cuomo with them to form the 51st state so the rest of us could be left in peace.

Police forces shouldn't dictate policy and they certainly shouldn't be pulling crap like this.
Whether you agree with particular politicians or not it's their job to comment on and shape how things are run.
Police are there to enforce rules, not to make them.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You don't need to carry guns because 'the police will protect you', and then suddenly, the police won't protect you because they want something. So what do you do?

Are you threatened by not getting a parking ticket? One might make a fair argument supporting one side or the other, but it's a stretch that this requires CCW or that the police will watch while a bank is held up.

 

[amdhunter]

Are you threatened by not getting a parking ticket? One might make a fair argument supporting one side or the other, but it's a stretch that this requires CCW or that the police will watch while a bank is held up.

Again...not giving out tickets is a deliberate way of denying money into city funds. As much as I hate tickets, it's just as necessary as protecting a bank.

The longer the NYPD decides to slow down their work, the sooner the city will start to feel stress about funding. The Police union knows what they are doing.

As for my Black comment (that others have commented on), it's one thing the people in power hate more than anything - social justice warriors. The fact that DeBlasio has a mixed race family turns him into an automatic SJW, and one that has an immense amount of power.

He needs to start putting his foot down. No one who voted for him will be pissed off, but you can guarantee he is thinking long term and wants to please everyone.

Anyone who thinks that DeBlasio having a Black family is not hurting him right now, is simply blind or closed minded.

 

[sourceninja]

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[Nebor]

You can't demand latitude from the public based on the dangerous job you do, then stop doing your job when it actually becomes dangerous. Ridiculous behavior. There's no one left to root for in this situation.

 

[mizzou]

My fear of the cops is that of a white nerd. Most cops don't like the nerdy type. Why is this?

You can fear many things, and only you can understand the basis of those fears. There are many white nerdy cops.

 

[brianmanahan]

No one is arguing that NYC isn't a financial hub, if not THE financial hub, of the US, and therefore the world. But it's still a shitty place to live unless you're pulling over $300K per year. Even then, my personal preferences wouldn't lead me to live there unless I was pulling over a million.

i would not want to live there no matter how much money i made. cities suck.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

If the police can just decide what crimes are worth stopping, how can I be sure they will come to my aid in my moment of need?

Will my personal safety be unimportant, maybe because I tweeted in support of a guy who got choked or worse didn't donate to the police ball?

You think you want police enforcing every law, but it's almost certain you are breaking one right now. Oh it may be obscure or outdated, but you'd be mad as hell if you got what you wanted. "I'm being harassed by cops enforcing ridiculous laws and regulations". Is your mailbox too high? I hope you don't say anything rude on the phone in Kansas. And heaven forbid if you sell a thermometer in Maine. The police should be out raiding all the drug and hardware stores on that one. Hey it's the law. If they don't seize these dangerous thermometers maybe they'll not stop someone from knifing you.

Sorry, you can't connect the dots here in any likely way.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Ridiculous. De Blasio was certainly stirring the pot (inviting Sharpton into the conversations? Cmon..) but the police not doing what they signed up and are paid to do is absurd and they should be reprimanded/fired. The excuse being "it's dangerous" is a joke. Of course it is, but they knew that when they decided to become a cop! What if our military said the same thing because they don't like Obama?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Again...not giving out tickets is a deliberate way of denying money into city funds. As much as I hate tickets, it's just as necessary as protecting a bank.

That's not the argument I was criticizing. Yes, it cuts a revenue stream, so you have a good point arguing that it's harmful in some way, but not because you are more likely to be left to be stabbed and lie while the police look on.

 

[Nebor]

Ridiculous. De Blasio was certainly stirring the pot (inviting Sharpton into the conversations? Cmon..) but the police not doing what they signed up and are paid to do is absurd and they should be reprimanded/fired. The excuse being "it's dangerous" is a joke. Of course it is, but they knew that when they decided to become a cop! What if our military said the same thing because they don't like Obama?

Agreed. If they're doing it because they're mad at the Mayor, what do they hope to achieve? The mayor isn't going away. If they're doing it because they're scared then they're in the wrong line of work.

 

[highland145]

Agreed. If they're doing it because they're mad at the Mayor, what do they hope to achieve? The mayor isn't going away. If they're doing it because they're scared then they're in the wrong line of work.

To cause the city financial pain. No different from any other union striking.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What if our military said the same thing because they don't like Obama?

There are many times in the history of the US where I wish the military had refused the foolish orders of politicians who didn't give a crap as long as they or their friends benefited even when others died. Ours is an awful system in this regard.

 

[Ackmed]

The mayor doesn't serve the police... I mean, I don't know anything about DeBlasio; he may be the worst mayor in the history of time. But it's not the place of the police department to tell the public "we don't like this person you elected, so we're not going to do our jobs. We're not going to quit; we're going to keep drawing a salary while doing absolutely nothing." There is not a strong enough word in the English language to adequately describe the level of douchefuckery the police are engaging in through their bullshit.

Well the words you used, do not describe what they are doing. They are not doing absolutly nothing. Sounds like they're taking precautions. Good try though!

People bitch if Police write too many tickets, arrest too many people. They bitch when they don't write as many tickets, or arrest as many people. Some people just like to bitch.

 

[Nebor]

To cause the city financial pain. No different from any other union striking.

I can't imagine the city is very dependent on proceeds from law enforcement. I assume the vast majority of it's income comes from property, sales and income taxes.

 

[highland145]

I can't imagine the city is very dependent on proceeds from law enforcement. I assume the vast majority of it's income comes from property, sales and income taxes.

So why are they bitching about the lack of tickets/petty arrests?

Or are they? Maybe the media, gasps, is stirring the pot.

Either way, it doesn't affect me so I'm golden.

 

[Nebor]

So why are they bitching about the lack of tickets/petty arrests?

Or are they? Maybe the media, gasps, is stirring the pot.

Either way, it doesn't affect me so I'm golden.

Because it's a clear sign that the police are refusing to do their jobs.

 

[Dari]

Again...not giving out tickets is a deliberate way of denying money into city funds. As much as I hate tickets, it's just as necessary as protecting a bank.

The longer the NYPD decides to slow down their work, the sooner the city will start to feel stress about funding. The Police union knows what they are doing.

As for my Black comment (that others have commented on), it's one thing the people in power hate more than anything - social justice warriors. The fact that DeBlasio has a mixed race family turns him into an automatic SJW, and one that has an immense amount of power.

He needs to start putting his foot down. No one who voted for him will be pissed off, but you can guarantee he is thinking long term and wants to please everyone.

Anyone who thinks that DeBlasio having a Black family is not hurting him right now, is simply blind or closed minded.

You don't know what you're talking about...

 

[Ruptga]

There are many times in the history of the US where I wish the military had refused the foolish orders of politicians who didn't give a crap as long as they or their friends benefited even when others died. Ours is an awful system in this regard.

Yes but the average person is too uninsightful to make that call. Civil disobedience should be rare and meaningful. As it is Americans take their ball and go home over the pettiest slights, from Congress to the police to pretty much every group that wants to get anything done, which ensures that nothing gets done.

 

[Dari]

Yes but the average person is too uninsightful to make that call. Civil disobedience should be rare and meaningful. As it is Americans take their ball and go home over the pettiest slights, from Congress to the police to pretty much every group that wants to get anything done, which ensures that nothing gets done.

The US Congress and Executive government were set up to be sclerotic by our founding fathers. The slowness and difficulty of governance was by design. That was so that those with too much power could never come to light. It was also that real things would get done at the local level. That way, local and state governments could compete with each other and copy best examples. It has worked well, IMHO...

 

[highland145]

Because it's a clear sign that the police are refusing to do their jobs.

Well someone should have a talk with the auto/education unions too.

 

[Lifted]

The NYC annual budget is over $50 billion. The under $1 million lost from moving violations in December is irrelevant. Traffic police are still out there giving tickets for parking violations. The only story here is that we don't have to worry about getting a ticket if we don't come to a complete stop at stop signs.