NYT publishes anon op-ed from sr admin official: I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Admin

[[DHT]Osiris]

Not so much that Trump has been outed to the majority of Americans who already see Trump for who he really is, but this op/ed surely must have been a stab in the chest to Trump's supporters. It really is a confirmation of Trump's unfitness for office that his supporters must now have to face up to, a painful wake up call of sorts that even insiders who were supposedly intimately loyal to Trump have turned on him because he is an actual present threat to the security of the nation.

I don't think this is the case at all. I think the die-hard Trump supporters will see this as vindication for Trump's constant bleating about 'deep state' and whatnot, they'll see it as a betrayal from within the White House, not as a no-confidence vote from the WH staff regarding the elected head of the executive branch.

Is it possible that it was decided by Trump's inner circle that outing Trump in this way was the most effective means to firmly put Trump in his place so as to wrest control of the White House away from him and thus force Trump to listen to reason, turn him into a mere figurehead and very much so a way to terminally cut off Putin's influence over Trump thus the nation he leads?

If it was decided this, it was a pretty shittacular way to go about it. All this shows is that we've got a severe weakness in our governmental process, in that a group of random, non-elected individuals can wrest control of the nation away from the democratically elected head of state whenever they feel like it. We've shifted from 'trusting' that the person we elected will do-right, to 'trusting' that the people that person appoints will do-right. I worry more about the latter, because for the most part those individuals scurry around under the radar for most presidencies.

With sufficient transparency, this isn't a crisis-level event, but I don't trust that we'll have that level of transparency.

 

[Indus]

LOL!

 

[K1052]

Watching denials of varying intensity trickle out of the cabinet is something.

You'll be glad to know it wasn't Rick Perry though lol.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Yes, but that one reckless idiot is feeding his flock a narrative around a deep state conspiracy against him since day one, and media bias against him...and this story is of an insider (derp state) leaking information to the NYT’s (media)

The Trump tweet in response nearly writes itself.

This will cause more harm than good

I agree, I suspect that this was actually released by Giuliani, through a stooge that they will toss under the buss eventually. It fits his awkward way of releasing information that appears to hurt the white house while actually giving them the excuses they need to undermine Mueller. It confirms a 'Deep State' that is working against Trump, it even names them as Republicans (just like Mueller!) and stokes Trumps worst paranoid conspiracy delusions.

Think about it for a moment, if you were really a senior official working in the administration working to blunt some of Trumps worst impulses why would you release this? It is going to make doing that job nearly impossible. He is now going to be paranoid about it, watching for it at ever turn. But it sure feeds into Trumps 'There are forces working in the shadows to thwart me' narrative.

 

[Jhhnn]

As someone who has worked in several bureaucracies there is a difference between the normal way the staff influences policy and this.

A lot of it is just normal bureaucratic methods. Trump's military parade is a great example. Mattis thinks it's stupid, but he takes it to the joint chiefs who also think it's stupid. They assign the organizational effort to people who believe likewise but they start trying to put it together with DC govt & other necessary agencies. Everybody involved thinks it's stupid so they all drag their feet & make excuses hoping it will all just fade away. When questioned by the boss, they just point fingers at each other & at other entities they don't control. After a few go-rounds with the staff the boss generally catches a clue that it's impossible & gives up. When the boss has the attention span of a fruit fly it's pretty easy. Meanwhile, the staff just tries to do the job & keep things running as smoothly as possible.

 

[zinfamous]

This closing bit is just awful:

Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.

"We must all escape the trap of tribalism, but do not worry, for we are here to save this country by defending the very worst tribalistic tendencies of the party that is wholly responsible for giving you this disaster of a president."

 

[brycejones]

This closing bit is just awful:


"We must all escape the trap of tribalism, but do not worry, for we are here to save this country by defending the very worst tribalistic tendencies of the party that is wholly responsible for giving you this disaster of a president."

How dare you be tribal in your criticism of their tribalism.....

 

[purbeast0]

LOL

 

[ivwshane]

LOL

I was hoping she was going to go the opposite way and defend the press and anonymous sources while, maybe, calling for the anonymous op-ed writer to come out as a testament of how dire things really are.

 

[brycejones]

Our nation's history is being written by her husband 160 characters at a time.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

LOL

I wonder what her thoughts are on people publicly accusing others of severe criminal actions but never offering a shred of evidence to support those accusations?

 

[soundforbjt]

LOL

I wonder who wrote that for her.

 

[ivwshane]

I wonder what her thoughts are on people publicly accusing others of severe criminal actions but never offering a shred of evidence to support those accusations?

I think she calls them cyber bullies.



Oh, you were referring to trump. She calls them her husband.

 

[trenchfoot]

Yeah no. They see it as a stab in the back only. It's all lies made up by the NYT you see. The Deep State is doing this don't you know. They see it as all orchestrated all along since everyone for over a year has said the same things about the chaos, dysfunction and inability for rational though on Trump's part.

It has nothing to do with the common theme being there because that's how things are. It's all a conspiracy to destroy the best president to ever grace the office.

If you want to feel completely disheartened at the state of the nation head on over to Breitbart or freerepublic and see what the lunatic fringe is saying about it.

I'm thinking his base is certainly feeling the way you describe, however maybe the moderates among them have decided that this op/ed is a deciding factor for them to either sit on their hands come election day or, for those who haven't primaried yet vote for those candidates that are not firmly positioned in the Trump camp?

Not sure, just trying to flesh this debacle out in order to see through the smoke created by this bombshell hitting the West Wing.

 

[trenchfoot]

I wonder who wrote that for her.

Exactly what I was thinking. I'm also thinking she can't wait for the day when her husband gets booted out of office in order for her to expand her options for her future.

 

[Jhhnn]

I agree, I suspect that this was actually released by Giuliani, through a stooge that they will toss under the buss eventually. It fits his awkward way of releasing information that appears to hurt the white house while actually giving them the excuses they need to undermine Mueller. It confirms a 'Deep State' that is working against Trump, it even names them as Republicans (just like Mueller!) and stokes Trumps worst paranoid conspiracy delusions.

Think about it for a moment, if you were really a senior official working in the administration working to blunt some of Trumps worst impulses why would you release this? It is going to make doing that job nearly impossible. He is now going to be paranoid about it, watching for it at ever turn. But it sure feeds into Trumps 'There are forces working in the shadows to thwart me' narrative.

I'm quite sure that the staffer who put that document in the hands of the NYT did so in person. I have no reason to doubt its authenticity or its sincerity. Taking it beyond that is conspiracy theory territory.

Trump is completely paranoid, anyway. Moles. Spies. Rats. Flippers. Leakers. Traitors. John Dean. Michael Cohen. Manafort. Mueller. The NY AG. Putin, who def seems to have something on Trump. And God only knows how many people from all over the world who've been part of his sleazy dealing.

 

[HomerJS]

I wonder who wrote that for her.

Michelle Obama? Third time's a charm

 

[HomerJS]

Haha. Trump making everyone deliver hand written denials to him. We may know who it is by the weekend.

 

[K1052]

Noted 4th Amendment warrior has thoughts.

 

[Indus]

I'm quite sure that the staffer who put that document in the hands of the NYT did so in person. I have no reason to doubt its authenticity or its sincerity. Taking it beyond that is conspiracy theory territory.

Trump is completely paranoid, anyway. Moles. Spies. Rats. Flippers. Leakers. Traitors. John Dean. Michael Cohen. Manafort. Mueller. The NY AG. Putin, who def seems to have something on Trump. And God only knows how many people from all over the world who've been part of his sleazy dealing.

There is something else tho.. most washington peeps would talk to the WaPo. Only a New Yorker would go to the NYT.

How many NY'ers are there in the administration?

 

[SMOGZINN]

I'm quite sure that the staffer who put that document in the hands of the NYT did so in person. I have no reason to doubt its authenticity or its sincerity. Taking it beyond that is conspiracy theory territory.

We are in conspiracy theory territory. This Op-Ed is someone claiming that there is an actual conspiracy in the White House to protect us from the President. Every day I read the news and feel like it was written by Richard Condon.

 

[Viper1j]

I don't think this is the case at all. I think the die-hard Trump supporters will see this as vindication for Trump's constant bleating about 'deep state' and whatnot, they'll see it as a betrayal from within the White House, not as a no-confidence vote from the WH staff regarding the elected head of the executive branch.

If it was decided this, it was a pretty shittacular way to go about it. All this shows is that we've got a severe weakness in our governmental process, in that a group of random, non-elected individuals can wrest control of the nation away from the democratically elected head of state whenever they feel like it. We've shifted from 'trusting' that the person we elected will do-right, to 'trusting' that the people that person appoints will do-right. I worry more about the latter, because for the most part those individuals scurry around under the radar for most presidencies.

With sufficient transparency, this isn't a crisis-level event, but I don't trust that we'll have that level of transparency.

A video could leak out of Donny banging a 13 year old Ivanka, and Trumpanzees would claim that she seduced him, and it wasn't really his fault.

Once they drank the kool-aid, they became lost causes.

LOL

Bah, Malaria just doesn't want to lose her Secret Service Boy Toy.

 

[sandorski]

Probably Pence.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Trump is likely thinking "If whoever this is will admit to it in the NYT, who might be leaking to Mueller"?

I wonder if self-immolation is an option for how the administration ends on the gambling boards?

 

[Indus]

This whole thread resembles trying to figure out who Deep Throat is.