NYT publishes anon op-ed from sr admin official: I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Admin

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Indus

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Trump is likely thinking "If whoever this is will admit to it in the NYT, who might be leaking to Mueller"?

I wonder if self-immolation is an option for how the administration ends on the gambling boards?

AHAHAHAHAHA he's not a buddhist monk. Probably thinks buddhists are batshit insane.
 

VRAMdemon

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For what it's worth, Pompeo and Pence's denials included strong criticism of the person who wrote it. Coats' denial didn't.

And in a bid to stay relevant, Ben Carson also announced it wasn't him. In that vein, I'd like to formally say it wasn't me either.
 

Jhhnn

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Noted 4th Amendment warrior has thoughts.

Purge them all! Put the terrarist traitors in Gitmo & use those special interrogation techniques. I mean, shit, those guys are getting out of practice.
 

VRAMdemon

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Which begs the question ; who is the intended audience for this op-ed?

It occurs to me that the intended audience might be Trump himself. There's nothing in there that the rest of us didn't already know.

Maybe the intent is to play into Trump's paranoid thinking that he is surrounded by enemies and traitors while sending a dog whistle to Pubs that their policies are being protected by like-minded people in the castle keep. If these keepers of the flame can drive the mad king over the edge, the Pubs can have President Pence without getting blood on their hands. Otherwise, why publish it at all?

Is the intended audience, Democrats?. The editorial kinda reads like a calculated response from Republicans to reassure Democrats that, hey, there really are grown-ups running things! Don't worry, we're keeping his ugliest impulses in check! It'll all be fine! No reason to vote us all out in November, we're on your side! Secretly, so you can't see it, but trust us, it's true!

Or..is the intended audience is old school, non-Trumpist Republicans who are having a crisis of faith as they watch the party devolve before their eyes. The author believes if he can convince these people there are “adults in the room”, then they will see all is not lost and that they shouldn’t yet abandon the GOP.

The author has misjudged this audience, I suspect. Old school conservatives aren’t rebels or conscientious objectors; if they didn’t put a premium on duty and loyalty, then they probably would’ve jumped ship a long time ago.
 

rise

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If it was decided this, it was a pretty shittacular way to go about it. All this shows is that we've got a severe weakness in our governmental process, in that a group of random, non-elected individuals can wrest control of the nation away from the democratically elected head of state whenever they feel like it. We've shifted from 'trusting' that the person we elected will do-right, to 'trusting' that the people that person appoints will do-right. I worry more about the latter, because for the most part those individuals scurry around under the radar for most presidencies.

With sufficient transparency, this isn't a crisis-level event, but I don't trust that we'll have that level of transparency.
I hope he/they do they step forward. However I think the "severe weekaness in our gov't processes" is more an indictment on the current administration and a cowardly and complicit congress than it is our actual processes. The gop and trump are set in to destroy or neuter our institutions (EPA, State, CPFB etc) while chasing buttery mails hearings the day after cohen and manafort go down.

Its a shame they have enabled the orange pig clown to the point where almost daily we fail to be stunned by unprecedented gaffes, crisis and embarrassments and that it would lead to such steps from "the very best people" but here we are. Here's hoping they do step forward, at least the author. And hoping Woodward will release some tapes!
 

Jhhnn

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There is something else tho.. most washington peeps would talk to the WaPo. Only a New Yorker would go to the NYT.

How many NY'ers are there in the administration?

I wouldn't read that into it at all. The whole thing revolves around issues of trust & personal relationships. The author wouldn't give the story to a reporter they didn't trust to take the secret to their grave. They found that person at the NYT.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I hope he/they do they step forward. However I think the "severe weekaness in our gov't processes" is more an indictment on the current administration and a cowardly and complicit congress than it is our actual processes. The gop and trump are set in to destroy or neuter our institutions (EPA, State, CPFB etc) while chasing buttery mails hearings the day after cohen and manafort go down.

Its a shame they have enabled the orange pig clown to the point where almost daily we fail to be stunned by unprecedented gaffes, crisis and embarrassments and that it would lead to such steps from "the very best people" but here we are. Here's hoping they do step forward, at least the author. And hoping Woodward will release some tapes!
It's both, imo. The current system is designed with the thought that our officials will act like adults, rather than idiotic children. With children in those positions, the system design cannot cope, as we clearly see. What is, seriously, the recourse of the electorate at this point? Wait and see if Congress does their jobs, and end this facade? Riot in the streets? Assassinate? Or just whine on twitter until the next few years trundles past, and hope we don't end up in WW3 before the next term?
 

HomerJS

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More haha's

Rand Paul suggested to Trump make everyone take a lie detector test.

Oh please let that happen. Visuals will be great.
 
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More haha's

Rand Paul suggested to Trump make everyone take a lie detector test.

Oh please let that happen. Visuals will be great.
I can see the hearings now.

"Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the resistance? Can you provide us of the names of people who are members of the resistance?"

It has a very familiar, almost comfortable, ring to it.
 
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It's both, imo. The current system is designed with the thought that our officials will act like adults, rather than idiotic children. With children in those positions, the system design cannot cope, as we clearly see. What is, seriously, the recourse of the electorate at this point? Wait and see if Congress does their jobs, and end this facade? Riot in the streets? Assassinate? Or just whine on twitter until the next few years trundles past, and hope we don't end up in WW3 before the next term?
You sound like my son
I told him when I was going to the rally against the Unnite the right bullshit that it felt like a good day to throw some bricks. I was kidding of course, but I hoped he would at least sense some outrage over whats going on.
And this isn't simply som kids getting loose in the WH. My point was that this is akin to a crime spree in ways and in fact, by design was meant to tear down many of the institutions meant to protect against THEM.
 

Ajay

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Yep..bravery not found;

Benjamin Wittes said it best on Twitter:

"I have no respect for someone who would say these things - of whose truth I have no doubt - in an anonymous oped, rather than in a public resignation letter copied to the House Judiciary Committee."

I also empathize with the politician who, finding themselves in the middle of the swamp, feels that they are left with two choices: speak up and quit or be fired, and be replaced by a dangerous, anti-Democracy Trump-selected know-nothing, or stay and try to preserve the Republic through this crisis. The author of this letter is no hero, and is in fact engaging in some action that threatens our very idea of a Democracy. However, I can also understand the conclusion that this is the lesser evil.

The House Judiciary Committee knows whats going on, the whole congress does. The leaders of the House and Senate plan on doing nothing except, like the staffer in question, prevent the worst instincts of Trump from affecting the country. The crime is that Trump is incompetent, at best, and the Congress is complicit in allowing him to continue on without any public checks on the President. It's a giant hairball of corruption of the highest order.
 

ivwshane

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You sound like my son
I told him when I was going to the rally against the Unnite the right bullshit that it felt like a good day to throw some bricks. I was kidding of course, but I hoped he would at least sense some outrage over whats going on.
And this isn't simply som kids getting loose in the WH. My point was that this is akin to a crime spree in ways and in fact, by design was meant to tear down many of the institutions meant to protect against THEM.

I agree. The question I have; is trump doing this on purpose or is he just that unaware and that fucking dumb or is he doing someone else bidding.

I lean towards him being unaware and a fucking idiot, especially after hearing that papers were simply removed from his desk to keep him from dissolving the south Korean trade agreement and he forgot about them.
 

Indus

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You sound like my son
I told him when I was going to the rally against the Unnite the right bullshit that it felt like a good day to throw some bricks. I was kidding of course, but I hoped he would at least sense some outrage over whats going on.
And this isn't simply som kids getting loose in the WH. My point was that this is akin to a crime spree in ways and in fact, by design was meant to tear down many of the institutions meant to protect against THEM.

At some point we have to come to the realization that everything the patriots build, conservaterrorist racial supremacists want to pillage and burn.

So what do we do?

- Divide the country?
- Hold the people in the administration and their judicial appointments accountable by prosecuting them under the law?
- Dismiss it as mere politics and treat Israel as more important than the United States like we do currently?

What do we do? Lemme know if you think of anything else that involves actually doing something short of surrender.
 

ivwshane

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The House Judiciary Committee knows whats going on, the whole congress does. The leaders of the House and Senate plan on doing nothing except, like the staffer in question, prevent the worst instincts of Trump from affecting the country. The crime is that Trump is incompetent, at best, and the Congress is complicit in allowing him to continue on without any public checks on the President. It's a giant hairball of corruption of the highest order.

Of course. How else do you get the judges and tax cuts you want. Trump is simply a useful idiot to Republicans who have corrupted government and to Russians.
 

Ajay

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Of course. How else do you get the judges and tax cuts you want. Trump is simply a useful idiot to Republicans who have corrupted government and to Russians.
Which is why we need to vote them out. The Dems better make some noise and ramp up pressure on the president when they are voted in. This needs to end (not that you don't know this).
 

hal2kilo

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It sure is shit ain't pompeo, the guy is all about team Republican before country, all the time, every time.
Well, who ever came up with the OP Ed was definitely pure Republican and trying to cover his cowardly ass, for when all the shit comes down. I have absolutely no respect for this person.
 
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You guys deserve credit for saying this. Regardless of how anyone feels about Trump, this is not the way to go about taking him down, and if anything fuels his deep state narrative.

We don’t need a shadow government “that knows better”.

I also can’t help but notice the timing of this relative to the Kavanaugh hearings. This story is eclipsing even the gauntlet Booker threw down today.

What are you talking about, "the way to go about" something? This letter did not come from anyone on the left. It isn't a strategy of some sort. NYT published it because it's newsworthy and they had to.

So far as this fueling a "deep state" narrative, the people who believe that tripe are beyond hope of being reached anyway. They're going to vote for Trump in 2020, and for GOP this year regardless. They can spin this however they want. So as far Trump supporters who are a bit more conditional in their support and don't buy into every conspiracy theory, I don't see how a republican insider saying that Trump has to be babysat so that he doesn't destroy the country and that he's an amoral liar helps him.
 
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