NYT publishes anon op-ed from sr admin official: I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Admin

[K1052]

Whoever wrote this is going to do more harm than good. Making a paranoid Trump far more paranoid and risking a potential purge or anyone viewed as being even slightly moderate or part of the "GOPe". If you thought you were doing good by being on the inside shut your hole and do it or put your name on it and bring those who agree with you along for the ride.

I'm not convinced that it wasn't the intent. If I was looking to help Trump self destruct this seems like a pretty good way to do it.

 

[Viper1j]

I agree. But the fact that this strategy works so well, speaks volumes about the character, and instability of the person that's being directed at. Namely Donny.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I agree. But the fact that this strategy works so well, speaks volumes about the character, and instability of the person that's being directed at. Namely Donny.

1) "Lodestar" reveals a republican conservative cabal is thwarting Trump because he's "amoral", a polite euphemism for "evil" in this case, and destroying the nation.

2) Lodestar mentions that the 25th was on the table because Trump is a nutter, more or less.

3) Trump goes bonkers.

4) ????

5) PROFIT!!!!!!!!!

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Pence?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Pence?

Possibly, but if I were "Lodestar" I'd use methods to divert from myself, knowing that whatever I write will be examined forensically to determine the source.

 

[Viper1j]

Possibly, but if I were "Lodestar" I'd use methods to divert from myself, knowing that whatever I write will be examined forensically to determine the source.

What if "Lodestar" IS President (soon to be) Pence?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Possibly, but if I were "Lodestar" I'd use methods to divert from myself, knowing that whatever I write will be examined forensically to determine the source.

For me this whole thing screams someone from the National Security sphere to me.

 

[Jhhnn]

Moles! Spies! Flippers! Rats! Traitors!

The answer for Trump is to call a staff meeting, sneak off to Mar-a-Lago instead & order that the White House be nuked from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

For me this whole thing screams someone from the National Security sphere to me.

My money's on Mattis. I think he's the only one with the chutzpah to hold a soft coup.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Can't wait for the next cabinet meeting and the round table group suck off of Trump.

It will be epic.

 

[HomerJS]

Good 'ole Fox News. They wouldn't even touch this story. Only covered when Trump talked about it and then went back to SCOTUS hearings and Bruce Orr.

 

[HomerJS]

One by one so called Sr. officials are being asked "is it you?" We may know by weekend.

So far denials

Pence
Pompeo

 

[dawp]

What if "Lodestar" IS President (soon to be) Pence?

I've read some think "loadstar" was used to draw attention away from the person who wrote and put it on someone else.

 

[IronWing]

Good 'ole Fox News. They wouldn't even touch this story. Only covered when Trump talked about it and then went back to SCOTUS hearings and Bruce Orr.

NPR played it up yesterday afternoon but toned it down this morning. The rat doesn't smell any better than the poop he's been eating. NPR interviewed one of Trump's deputy press secretaries this morning. He did an excellent job of defending Trump on this one (yes, he's serving evil, but he did a good job of it).

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Moles! Spies! Flippers! Rats! Traitors!

The answer for Trump is to call a staff meeting, sneak off to Mar-a-Lago instead & order that the White House be nuked from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

I think Trump is going to use geometric logic to find the TRAITOR.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Can't wait for the next cabinet meeting and the round table group suck off of Trump.

It will be epic.

Oh My God, someone please suggest this on Trumps Twitter. He reads that shit.
Tell him the opening of his next cabinet meeting should be televised to prove how much is cabinet respects him.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I've read some think "loadstar" was used to draw attention away from the person who wrote and put it on someone else.

Oh my god it could be Pence

Can the President fire the Vice President? Legit question I’ve never thought about it or thought it would be remotely possible.

 

[IronWing]

Oh my god it could be Pence

Can the President fire the Vice President? Legit question I’ve never thought about it or thought it would be remotely possible.

Nope. Pence is the one person in the executive branch that Trump can't fire. He can strip him of all roles outside the very few powers granted to a VP in the Constitution but he can't fire him.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Nope. Pence is the one person in the executive branch that Trump can't fire. He can strip him of all roles outside the very few powers granted to a VP in the Constitution but he can't fire him.

True, but as an elected official he does not need the permission of Trump to do whatever is legal. He could fly around the country and argue for impeachment if he so desired. He can stand in stark opposition against Donnie and there is no way to silence Pence short of a little nerve agent by Trump's besties in Moscow.

I believe that Pence doesn't have the balls to oppose Trump and the term is so arcane that only Pence "could be" the TRAITOR, meaning the term in itself being used as evidence is shaky at best.

 

[dyna]

The idea of a "resistance" in the White House is a bit disturbing. It was a poor choice of words and will likely invoke an investigation to ensure the White House is safe. They might as well have gone public because now, it is going to be lockdown and any logical adminstration will make sure the "resistance" no longer has any further influence.

 

[fskimospy]

True, but as an elected official he does not need the permission of Trump to do whatever is legal. He could fly around the country and argue for impeachment if he so desired. He can stand in stark opposition against Donnie and there is no way to silence Pence short of a little nerve agent by Trump's besties in Moscow.

I believe that Pence doesn't have the balls to oppose Trump and the term is so arcane that only Pence "could be" the TRAITOR, meaning the term in itself being used as evidence is shaky at best.

I guess it could be the NYT covering its ass but it did mention that they wouldn't reveal his identity in part because it would lead to his firing and Pence can't be fired.

That being said, Pence is a worthless piece of shit and I sincerely doubt he would have written this. Also, if you look at his past writings he writes like an eighth grader.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The idea of a "resistance" in the White House is a bit disturbing. It was a poor choice of words and will likely invoke an investigation to ensure the White House is safe. They might as well have gone public because now, it is going to be lockdown and any logical adminstration will make sure the "resistance" no longer has any further influence.

It reads more like a manifesto than anything else. There is the slight possibility that someone is having the NYT on, taking a piss to set them up, but if that is not the case the idea that we have reached a point in US history that such resistance is deemed necessary by people in a President's party is nothing short of astounding.

"Unprecedented" has been used, perhaps overused at times, but we have factually entered an era where that is precisely where things stand. In terms of action, this is not unimaginably removed from an actual coup, one that many would approve of because the Constitution has been attacked by enemies domestic in office.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I guess it could be the NYT covering its ass but it did mention that they wouldn't reveal his identity in part because it would lead to his firing and Pence can't be fired.

That being said, Pence is a worthless piece of shit and I sincerely doubt he would have written this. Also, if you look at his past writings he writes like an eighth grader.

We live in interesting times, very interesting indeed. In all the history of our nation, there has been no equivalent to what we see on so many levels at this very moment.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

It reads more like a manifesto than anything else. There is the slight possibility that someone is having the NYT on, taking a piss to set them up, but if that is not the case the idea that we have reached a point in US history that such resistance is deemed necessary by people in a President's party is nothing short of astounding.

"Unprecedented" has been used, perhaps overused at times, but we have factually entered an era where that is precisely where things stand. In terms of action, this is not unimaginably removed from an actual coup, one that many would approve of because the Constitution has been attacked by enemies domestic in office.

This seems incredibly unlikely. They know who the person is. There is no way in hell they publish this without being damn certain they know who it is and they are positioned where they say they are and that this is credible. The state of crisis this puts things in would sink they admin if they did this intentionally and that ever came out.

Of course I say that last part then I remember the current state of Congress and the number of comments I already read on conservative sites hoping it was Trump doing this on purpose....

You guys are screwed.

 

[Viper1j]

Can the President fire the Vice President? Legit question I’ve never thought about it or thought it would be remotely possible.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/martin-nolan/the-vice-president-is-the_b_105178.html

‘’The Vice President is The Only Person The President Can’t Fire.’’

By Martin Nolan

It is not a Miss Congeniality award, not a runner-up trophy, nor a consolation prize of any sort. The vice presidency has been derided and desired, but one central fact about it is inescapable

In 1966, after a reporting trip with Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey, I enjoyed off-the-record drinks with one of the Great Society’s smartest people. The veep’s frustration was a topic. Humphrey, his aides and even some of President Lyndon Johnson’s braintrusters lamented the waste of Humphrey’s skills and experience as senator and as mayor of Minneapolis. Shouldn’t HHH be ‘’czar’’ of the programs the Johnson administration had so eagerly begun? Can’t the vice presidency be a position of line responsibility?

Robert C. Wood, whose book popularized the word “suburbia,” set down his drink and was professorially patient. A political scientist at MIT, he was undersecretary, then secretary, of Housing and Urban Development. ‘’The vice president is the only person the president can’t fire,’’ Bob Wood said, confirming his commonsense role in an optimistic era. “Marty, you have to look at the Constitution.”

Yup, there it is, several times. Cabinet secretaries serve at the pleasure of the president, who can dismiss them at any time. To oust a vice president requires a vote of the House and two-thirds vote in the Senate: a messy matter, but it would be fascinating television.

The vice presidency is a hugely erroneous afterthought by the Framers. Alexander Hamilton, in Federalist Paper 68, conceded that having the vice president preside over the Senate “has been objected to as superfluous, if not mischievous.” The first vice president, John Adams, called the second vice president, Thomas Jefferson, a “consummate intriguer,” which turned out to be accurate. Jefferson defeated Adams for the presidency in 1800. But because Aaron Burr tied Jefferson in the Electoral College, the young Republic changed the Constitution with the 12th Amendment, specifying how vice presidents were to be elected.

In the 19th century, party bosses made the No. 2 post a ticket-balancing nonentity. Vice presidents who entered the White House because of the death of a president — John Tyler, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson and Chester Alan Arthur — were not strong enough to be win presidential nominations at party conventions:

Theodore Roosevelt was a famous V.P., a war hero and former governor of New York. But most 20th century vice presidents resembled Alexander P. Throttlebottom, the clueless, feckless and fictional V.P. in the 1931 George and Ira Gershwin musical Of Thee I Sing. This veep “lives at 1448 Z Street... with the other boarders” and mostly “sits around in the park and feeds the pigeons, and takes walks, and goes to the movies.”

Dick Cheney is no Throttlebottom. All the more reason why the next president should make clear who’s in charge here.

Choosing a vice president is the first important executive decision a would-be president makes. If Barack Obama is pressured by Hillary Clinton, a mathematical question arises: why would he choose someone whom record numbers of Democrats have voted against? More significantly, if a candidate for No. 1 is forced to choose someone he doesn’t want then the potential president, not the would-be veep, would be the true Throttlebottom.