Nintendesert
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I'm hoping the President assigns a commission to study this.
Oil price Czar?
His lackey, Holder, is all over this...I'm hoping the President assigns a commission to study this.
The task force is working to improve efforts across the federal executive branch, and with state and local partners, to investigate and prosecute significant financial crimes, ensure just and effective punishment for those who perpetrate financial crimes, combat discrimination in the lending and financial markets, and recover proceeds for victims of financial crimes.
"Opponents have cited potential impacts on wildlife as well as the difficulty of managing any oil spill that occurred in the region."
That ought to be the chief concern right there. It was hard/impossible enough having the Deepwater Horizon debacle in a location easy to at least deliver material and manpower to. WTF is the plan for a similar type event all the way up there in BFE?
"Trust Us" is not an acceptable answer.
Chuck
Isn't it the Obama administration goal to "Boost the price of gasoline to the levels in europe"?
The EPA is the national regulatory agency which issues these permits, and its members are appointed by Obama (or, at least, his administration).
Agreed. I was just making sure the relationship between the EPA and the case were clear.Oh yes, i fully understand that. 4 people with the power to vote yes or no. But how do these people work ? Do they personally do the research ? Or do they just make decisions ? Because i know enough of life to know that everybody has 2 agenda's. And some become greedy in a position of power because they think they can no longer be touched. I still wonder if the reason is really an air permit because of air pollution or that there is an air permit because of the planning of driving shell out and let halliburton or another company drill for oil while shell has done the billion dollar research. It stinks. Again this has nothing to do with being a democrat IMHO. Shell has been doing research for 5 years and is ready to drill and now EPA decides that the air will pollute. I find it difficult to believe that 5 years ago it was not know that air pollution would happen when there is a lot of drilling experience.
Lobbyists, they get things done and fill the politicians pocket with cash.
His lackey, Holder, is all over this...
http://www.maritime-executive.com/a...raud-working-group-to-focus-on-energy-markets
The last sentence...
We're all gonna get a check courtesy of the evil rich! Yah baby, redistribute that wealth!
I'm totally in favor of offshore drilling, but the companies that do so MUST have realistic and demonstrable plans to deal with deepwater spills. BP clearly demonstrated that they did not have a plan at all.
Wow! Another lets make shit up and bash the Kenyan president circle jerk! If we could just invent a car that runs on hot air, you guys could power the nation for decades.
Agreed. I was just making sure the relationship between the EPA and the case were clear.
His lackey, Holder, is all over this...
http://www.maritime-executive.com/a...raud-working-group-to-focus-on-energy-markets
The last sentence...
We're all gonna get a check courtesy of the evil rich! Yah baby, redistribute that wealth!
It depends on the contract. If a clause is present that the government is able to block the drill for oil if the environment will be destroyed. And without repaying the 2.2 billion dollars can continue the block. You still have to make sure that at the time that you actually can drill, the politicians are still your friend. I can assure you that if shell will not be allowed to drill, an US based company will a few years later be allowed to drill. Blame it on the EPA and environment hippies while in reality it is all about ensuring that more of those oil dollars end up in someones pocket...That is how it seems to me. Being democrat has nothing to do with being honest. Those people who are against it because of the air permit. Please do a little research if they have any affinity with a US based oil drilling company. I would not be surprised if this is purely about money and not politic views.
lol you are not that naive. Look at who sits on the EPA board. But go ahead, continue to cover your ears with your hands and yell la la la la la.
It is strange that there is no agreement prior to setting up drill station or what ever research they do.
If you are going to invest 4b dollars, you would make sure you have agreements with the local politics.
What i do find interesting is the notion that if the US does not benefit from it, it will not be done. I mean who uses the most oil ?
I would imagine that the $2.2 billion dollar lease, paid to .gov I am sure, had an agreement to extract minerals attached to it.
When it comes to oil its laughable. Here is the raw truth. The American companies charge us the same amount for a barrel oil that the Mideast cronies do. So it really is of no benefit to destroy Alaska or drill anywhere else in America, because we will not see one penny of savings. At least Alaska will still be clean. Fuck the American oil companies, they are the biggest racketeers in the country.
I'd also like to see escrow accounts set up to handle the reasonable costs of handling a major spill, so that on Day Two of a spill government seizes the escrow account, takes over, and contracts the clean-up to, say, Halliburton or the like at cost-plus with the escrow money. Keeps out those who cannot afford to pay for the clean-up and eliminates both the waiting period where the company tries the cheaper but less likely to succeed stuff at first. As it stands, it's far cheaper for an oil company to buy politicians and shift the burden onto the taxpayer than to clean up a spill.I'm totally in favor of offshore drilling, but the companies that do so MUST have realistic and demonstrable plans to deal with deepwater spills. BP clearly demonstrated that they did not have a plan at all.
LOL - So when supply goes up you are saying that prices won't go down?
Laughable.
I'd also like to see escrow accounts set up to handle the reasonable costs of handling a major spill, so that on Day Two of a spill government seizes the escrow account, takes over, and contracts the clean-up to, say, Halliburton or the like at cost-plus with the escrow money. Keeps out those who cannot afford to pay for the clean-up and eliminates both the waiting period where the company tries the cheaper but less likely to succeed stuff at first. As it stands, it's far cheaper for an oil company to buy politicians and shift the burden onto the taxpayer than to clean up a spill.
Gotta admit though, the BP Gulf spill was major over-played. Most of the BP trust fund has not been used, and as Darwin said the economic damage of the spill has been less than the economic damage of the moratorium.