Obama at Columbia

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Balt

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I have a better idea. How about Romney releases his tax returns if Obama releases his own tax returns? Apples to apples.

Oh, and since Obama has already done that, it's Romney's turn.
 

monovillage

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I have a better idea. How about Romney releases his tax returns if Obama releases his own tax returns? Apples to apples.

Oh, and since Obama has already done that, it's Romney's turn.

I'd rather see both of their complete medical records. What is Obama hiding? Drug use? drug overdose? depression? other mental disabilities?
 

thraashman

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Part of the problem with Mitt's tax returns is that in the past when running for office he's insisted his opponents, spouses of opponents, and sometimes people he wasn't even running against should release their tax returns. Now that it's hitting him he's backing away from that position. There's also a few potentially damning things that releasing his tax returns could either confirm or discredit.

First is that he only release his federal returns and if he releases his state returns it could become evident that he was not considered a legal resident of Massachusetts when he voted for Scott Brown, making him guilty of voter fraud.
You can read about it here. http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-fraud

This article details the other things.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/romney-tax-returns-to-give-view-of-family-wealth/
The big one being that it is possible he was tax evading and took advantage of a 2009 amnesty offer for his Swiss bank accounts.

Full release of tax returns could easily dispel these possibilities if he is indeed innocent of them. So it's mostly in his best interest to release. However considering he's been the statistically most dishonest major candidate in the nation's history, I wouldn't be the least surprised if he's guilty of some or all of the possibilites.
 

monovillage

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Part of the problem with Mitt's tax returns is that in the past when running for office he's insisted his opponents, spouses of opponents, and sometimes people he wasn't even running against should release their tax returns. Now that it's hitting him he's backing away from that position. There's also a few potentially damning things that releasing his tax returns could either confirm or discredit.

First is that he only release his federal returns and if he releases his state returns it could become evident that he was not considered a legal resident of Massachusetts when he voted for Scott Brown, making him guilty of voter fraud.
You can read about it here. http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-fraud

This article details the other things.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/romney-tax-returns-to-give-view-of-family-wealth/
The big one being that it is possible he was tax evading and took advantage of a 2009 amnesty offer for his Swiss bank accounts.

Full release of tax returns could easily dispel these possibilities if he is indeed innocent of them. So it's mostly in his best interest to release. However considering he's been the statistically most dishonest major candidate in the nation's history, I wouldn't be the least surprised if he's guilty of some or all of the possibilites.

This is the "drug damaged Obama at Columbia" thread. You wanted to post in one of the 5 "Romney is a better business man then that commie asshole Obama thread" which is ------------------------> that way. Try to keep the threads straight.
 

thraashman

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This is the "drug damaged Obama at Columbia" thread. You wanted to post in one of the 5 "Romney is a better business man then that commie asshole Obama thread" which is ------------------------> that way. Try to keep the threads straight.

Romney's tax returns were brought up in contrast to Obama's college records. So it had a legitimate link. Also the drug thing was only brought up recently in this thread. And it should be brought up that most of Obama's drug use was in high school with some pot smoking at Occidental. There's nothing that shows he was still using by Columbia.
 
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zinfamous

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Wasn't it at Columbia when Obama was doing all of his cocaine and other drugs? or was that another time?

and Bush was snorting powder and drinking his brain cells to death while going AWOL from the air national guard.


Yes--we all know this. Who gives a shit?
 

monovillage

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and Bush was snorting powder and drinking his brain cells to death while going AWOL from the air national guard.


Yes--we all know this. Who gives a shit?

I care that our serving president is a drug addict and mentally unstable. I wish he'd release his medical records so we can see just how fucked up he is.
 

chucky2

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This is a stupid argument we've had in other threads.

Romney's tax returns could tell us something of interest regarding his business dealings and finances, which he's made a central part of his campaign.

Obama's school records don't mean anything, because even if they had dark and twisted secrets, who gives a shit? He's been president for 3.5 years now. That's the only reasonable information from which to decide whether to re-elect him or not. Do you think he did a good job? Vote for him. If not, don't.

This.
 

chucky2

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Obama has been the POTUS for 3.5 years. If he's using, who gives a sh1t? You think his Admin, or any Admin, would allow a medical report to be released that had the POTUS using? Not going to happen. It's a non-issue. The time to make a stand demanding Obama's school records was back before he was first elected and had essentially zero real world experience doing....well, doing anything substantial. Going after that right now is pointless as berzerker60 points out, as he's got 3.5 years of job performance for people to reflect on.

If only he hadn't F'd up with his illegal invader capitulation, this F'ing election would be an easy choice. Now it's choose whether you want it from the front or back while the Dem's and Rep's double team you. Awesome choice...
 
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What about his medical records? If he is still using drugs the people have the right to know it.

Do you seriously believe this? It's just laughable to me that you'd even make this sort of claim. You may not like the President, and you may have perfectly valid reasons for feeling that way, but I do not believe any reasonable person could conclude there is any reason to believe he is stupid, mentally unstable, or a drug user.
 

zinfamous

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I care that our serving president is a drug addict and mentally unstable. I wish he'd release his medical records so we can see just how fucked up he is.

a drug addict and mentally unstable?

Well, he never was a drug addict, but not too many people--even those that despised him--didn't really care that Booooosh was a known alcoholic.


wtf are you getting at?
 

monovillage

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Do you seriously believe this? It's just laughable to me that you'd even make this sort of claim. You may not like the President, and you may have perfectly valid reasons for feeling that way, but I do not believe any reasonable person could conclude there is any reason to believe he is stupid, mentally unstable, or a drug user.

How would you know? Why does he continue to refuse to release his medical records? He must be hiding something or he'd release those records.
 

chucky2

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Ok, I get it, you're making the comparison to Romney not releasing his tax records. I understand and agree, it's the same deal. Someone arguing for one should equally be arguing for the other. Except...

...unlike Romney who is not POTUS, Obama is. We already know he's doing the POTUS job (some would argue poorly, others would argue awesomely), so what is the point? At this point Obama could have been an F student at every school he attended, and it wouldn't matter (well, the media sh1tstorm would be massive, but still), we've got 3.5 years of POTUS job performance to judge him by. Romney we can judge by his business acumen and his political performance to date. I myself could care less about his tax returns, but I can understand why others would. Release them and be done with it.
 

Aegeon

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We already know he's doing the POTUS job (some would argue poorly, others would argue awesomely), so what is the point? At this point Obama could have been an F student at every school he attended, and it wouldn't matter (well, the media sh1tstorm would be massive, but still)
For that matter we already know a significant amount about Obama's grades from Harvard Law School because he graduated magna cum laude, which means basically he graduated in the top ten percent of his class.
 

a777pilot

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For that matter we already know a significant amount about Obama's grades from Harvard Law School because he graduated magna cum laude, which means basically he graduated in the top ten percent of his class.

LOL!

I wonder how much that cost the Saudis?
 

zinfamous

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This is the "drug damaged Obama at Columbia" thread. You wanted to post in one of the 5 "Romney is a better business man then that commie asshole Obama thread" which is ------------------------> that way. Try to keep the threads straight.


deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect!


Challenge: Why won't Mitt release his tax returns?
Ditto head response: Obama is a likely drug addict!

 

umbrella39

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The unhinged becoming more unhinged. Wonders if it concerns them that they are clearly going spidey insane? This is why I have contested modern day conservatism is a disease that is not easily transmittable but for those already afflicted, it exacerbates the closer it gets to an election.
 
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