Check who you're talking to, and you'll realize why the bolded part becomes a factor.
Do you seriously believe this? It's just laughable to me that you'd even make this sort of claim. You may not like the President, and you may have perfectly valid reasons for feeling that way, but I do not believe any reasonable person could conclude there is any reason to believe he is stupid, mentally unstable, or a drug user.
deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect!
Challenge: Why won't Mitt release his tax returns?
Ditto head response: Obama is a likely drug addict!
"It's the normal thing for presidential candidates to do, and Mitt Romney decided to run for president."I agree it is a stupid comeback. I still want to hear a legitimate reason why Romney should release them. So far all I have heard are either completely loonie, intensely selfish, or just down right childish.
"It's the normal thing for presidential candidates to do, and Mitt Romney decided to run for president."
Which is that?
We've repeatedly established sound reasons for releasing such records, you've simply ignored them. (You may have no problem with any tactic to avoid taxes as long as the IRS ultimately judged it was technically legal at the time, but not everyone in the U.S. feels the same way. As noted it also tells us more information about Romney's financial interests and other elements of his background and has been a general specific piece of information that other recent Presidential candidates have disclosed.)It is the "cause everyone else is doing it" reason that your mother taught you was a bad reason to use when you were little.
"But mom, EVERYONE ELSE is doing it!" "If everyone else was jumping off a bridge, would you do it too?"
It is the "cause everyone else is doing it" reason that your mother taught you was a bad reason to use when you were little.
"But mom, EVERYONE ELSE is doing it!" "If everyone else was jumping off a bridge, would you do it too?"
Mothers do that because jumping off a bridge is an egregious and obviously dangerous and stupid thing to do.
Releasing tax returns is not comparable. The issue is not that people want Romney to do this solely because everyone else does. The issue is what his refusal to follow the standard set by his own father says about his character.
No, more like if someone's interviewing for a job at my company, I expect some standard information from him - past employment, education, possibly references, etc. If he adamantly refuses to tell me where he went to school, for example, that's surprising. Normally I wouldn't really care, because it probably doesn't tell me very much, but his refusal to give up standard info raises my eyebrows. I ask why he won't, and he says it will just make me not want to hire him. I call his reference and ask if maybe he knows why the adamant refusal, and the reference says "Well why would he tell you where he went to school? Just because everyone else does? I haven't heard a good reason!"
Would this not enter into your decision on hiring this potential employee?
In contrast, I wouldn't ask for his high school transcript unless maybe this was the first job he's held since graduating and there's nothing more important to base the decision on. If he has 5 years' experience in this field, I wouldn't even care much about his college GPA and a major in an unrelated field, I'd care what I could find out about his past performance in the job at hand.
We've repeatedly established sound reasons for releasing such records, you've simply ignored them. (You may have no problem with any tactic to avoid taxes as long as the IRS ultimately judged it was technically legal at the time, but not everyone in the U.S. feels the same way. As noted it also tells us more information about Romney's financial interests and other elements of his background and has been a general specific piece of information that other recent Presidential candidates have disclosed.)
I agree it is a stupid comeback. I still want to hear a legitimate reason why Romney should release them. So far all I have heard are either completely loonie, intensely selfish, or just down right childish.
George RomneyOne year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show.
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I heard Obama failed 3 grade gym class and there's a huge conspiracy to cover it up. I read it on Alex Jones' blog so I know it's verified with facts.This is a stupid argument we've had in other threads.
Romney's tax returns could tell us something of interest regarding his business dealings and finances, which he's made a central part of his campaign.
Obama's school records don't mean anything, because even if they had dark and twisted secrets, who gives a shit? He's been president for 3.5 years now. That's the only reasonable information from which to decide whether to re-elect him or not. Do you think he did a good job? Vote for him. If not, don't.
He's hiding the numbers because he knows he pays less than the average American. People won't be so enthusiastic for his upper class tax cuts when they find out his taxes are already lower than theirs.So do you have an actual legitimate reason to need to see the exact numbers on his tax return? You already know he is not cheating (the IRS has surely gone over his returns with a fine toothed comb by now). We also know he is doing exactly what you do, which is not pay more in taxes than he has to. We also know he gives more to charity than you do in both real dollars and in percentage.
What legitimate reason do you have for needing the exact numbers?
cybrstooge indeed has a valid point: Mr. Romney may well consider releasing his prior year tax returns a "dangerous and stupid thing to do" - every bit as dangerous and stupid as jumping off the Golden Gate.Mothers do that because jumping off a bridge is an egregious and obviously dangerous and stupid thing to do.
Releasing tax returns is not comparable. The issue is not that people want Romney to do this solely because everyone else does. The issue is what his refusal to follow the standard set by his own father says about his character.
cybrstooge indeed has a valid point: Mr. Romney may well consider releasing his prior year tax returns a "dangerous and stupid thing to do" - every bit as dangerous and stupid as jumping off the Golden Gate.
Considering the "highly aggressive" tax strategies he endorsed for Marriott Corporation when he chaired their audit committee, there's no telling what "highly aggressive" tax strategies he pursued on his own returns, or what he had "amnestied" in 2009 that he wants to keep under wraps.
I heard Obama failed 3 grade gym class and there's a huge conspiracy to cover it up. I read it on Alex Jones' blog so I know it's verified with facts.
He's hiding the numbers because he knows he pays less than the average American. People won't be so enthusiastic for his upper class tax cuts when they find out his taxes are already lower than theirs.
You know blatantly outright lying, or wildly misrepresenting others posts is not helpful. I have repeatedly listed the reasons in various threads, often in direct response to your posts. There is no good reason to do so again if you're too stupid or lazy to remember them or read the posts.You have? What are these sound reasons? The one you list in this post is the loonie reasoning of "cause everyone else is doing it" your mother soundly debunked as a good reason when you were 5.
What background will you find, that Romney is not breaking the law? We already know this. That he, just like you, pay the amount required by law? That he gives far more to charity than you, both in real numbers and in percentage? What will having his exact numbers tell you that you cannot already determine?
You know blatantly outright lying, or wildly misrepresenting others posts is not helpful. I have repeatedly listed the reasons in various threads, often in direct response to your posts. There is no good reason to do so again if you're too stupid or lazy to remember them or read the posts.
As noted, while I view it as very unlikely, we in fact don't know if Mitt Romney cheated on his taxes by at least the common definition.
More relevantly though as noted there is allot more in that tax information that many voters may find relevant regarding a Presidential candidate's prior conduct. Its reasonable to hold a presidential candidate to a higher standard than merely what the average citizen needs to do to avoid the IRS taking action against him/her. Its not plausible that releasing tax returns is solely about proving they didn't cheat on their taxes to most people.
As noted by the prior quote, George Romney among others strongly disagreed with the argument that its merely about whether someone outright broke the law on their tax returns rather than what they reveal about "how a man conducted themselves over the long haul."
No we don't know this. Rich people always say they pay high taxes and their marginal tax rate is 35% which is super high. His opponents are asking for proof of such a claim. He obviously doesn't have proof that his taxes are really high so he remains quiet.We already know this, though, without seeing the exact numbers. We already know he follows the tax code and does not pay more than he has to, just like everyone else does.
No we don't know this. Rich people always say they pay high taxes and their marginal tax rate is 35% which is super high. His opponents are asking for proof of such a claim. He obviously doesn't have proof that his taxes are really high so he remains quiet.
Average Americans don't understand how capital gains tax works. That lack of understanding of what keeps pushing the idea that rich people have very high tax rates.
IF Romney asks his VP contenders to show several tax returns so they can be vetted by the Romney camp why doesnt Romney show several of his?
rules dont apply to the rich?
The "cause other people are doing it" has been thoroughly debunked many times over...starting with your mom when you were around 5 years old.