Case in point.Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Triumph
Seriously? The Nobel Peace Prize? I'm by no means an Obama hater, but WTF? Don't you have to actually DO something to get this?
He's not George Bush and his VP isn't Darth Cheney. Sure, the bar is low, but this is a titanic achievement in and of itself and such a HUGE improvement for the rest of the world.
Of course, all of you bouncing around in your parochial right-wing echo chamber would have zero idea how relieved the rest of the entire world is.
This.
"He's not Bush" is the dumbest reason ever. It's not like we could have elected him again. Obama wasn't running against Bush... maybe the memory of Bush. So he gets the award for winning an election against a guy who couldn't run anyway? That's a titanic achievement? The world is relieved that W couldn't run for a third term?
*checks batteries in sarcasm meter*
Ahhhhhhhhhhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... really? Try again.
Let me spell it out for you... McCain2008 = GWB Get it now?
Here let me help you:
Turd (R) <--- Bad
Turd (D) <--- Good
You can't make it any more simple (minded) than that.
Um, yeah, except that one "turd" institutionalized and legalized torture, invaded a country that did nothing to his own country, created a rhetorical orthodoxy of "with us or against us" and "axis of evil" which precludes any forward conversation with even moderate muslims, made the US representative to the UN a guy who said the UN shouldn't exist, and generally is looked upon by the world as a psychotic texan cowboy.
And the other turd gave the first US president speech to the muslim world, preaches negotiation and consensus, ended torture as a policy of interrogation, argued against the Iraq war with precient clarity, and has engaged the UN instead of ridiculing it. And he's not Turd A.
So yeah, it's way too early for this award, but these two turds do not look alike.
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Case in point.Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Here let me help you:
Turd (R) <--- Bad
Turd (D) <--- Good
You can't make it any more simple (minded) than that.
Um, yeah, except that one "turd" institutionalized and legalized torture, invaded a country that did nothing to his own country, created a rhetorical orthodoxy of "with us or against us" and "axis of evil" which precludes any forward conversation with even moderate muslims, made the US representative to the UN a guy who said the UN shouldn't exist, and generally is looked upon by the world as a psychotic texan cowboy.
And the other turd gave the first US president speech to the muslim world, preaches negotiation and consensus, ended torture as a policy of interrogation, argued against the Iraq war with precient clarity, and has engaged the UN instead of ridiculing it. And he's not Turd A.
So yeah, it's way too early for this award, but these two turds do not look alike.
You have no clue as to what I'm talking about do you? Robor was equating McCain to Bush. I was merely pointing out the highly complex rationale Robor uses to come to such a profound conclusion. Sorry if I confused you.Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Case in point.Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Here let me help you:Originally posted by: Robor
Let me spell it out for you... McCain2008 = GWB Get it now?
Turd (R) <--- Bad
Turd (D) <--- Good
You can't make it any more simple (minded) than that.
Um, yeah, except that one "turd" institutionalized and legalized torture, invaded a country that did nothing to his own country, created a rhetorical orthodoxy of "with us or against us" and "axis of evil" which precludes any forward conversation with even moderate muslims, made the US representative to the UN a guy who said the UN shouldn't exist, and generally is looked upon by the world as a psychotic texan cowboy.
And the other turd gave the first US president speech to the muslim world, preaches negotiation and consensus, ended torture as a policy of interrogation, argued against the Iraq war with precient clarity, and has engaged the UN instead of ridiculing it. And he's not Turd A.
So yeah, it's way too early for this award, but these two turds do not look alike.
No. Your case was Nobel committe was making a decision based on political party, not actions. My "case in point" shows the actions which they endorsed, not the party. If a (R) had reached out to muslims and not tortured detainees and embraced the UN, then he too would be eligible for the award.
Originally posted by: DukeN
So apparently he was unanimously awarded this - all of the 12 panelists voted for him, and and to paraphrase one of them, the only people taking an issue to this are his political rivals (and their sympathizers) and the American media. Which makes sense, as those are the two most ignorant groups of people in the world.
Originally posted by: DukeN
So apparently he was unanimously awarded this - all of the 12 panelists voted for him, and and to paraphrase one of them, the only people taking an issue to this are his political rivals (and their sympathizers) and the American media. Which makes sense, as those are the two most ignorant groups of people in the world.
Originally posted by: DukeN
So apparently he was unanimously awarded this - all of the 12 panelists voted for him, and and to paraphrase one of them, the only people taking an issue to this are his political rivals (and their sympathizers) and the American media. Which makes sense, as those are the two most ignorant groups of people in the world.
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: DukeN
So apparently he was unanimously awarded this - all of the 12 panelists voted for him, and and to paraphrase one of them, the only people taking an issue to this are his political rivals (and their sympathizers) and the American media. Which makes sense, as those are the two most ignorant groups of people in the world.
this thread is full of Obama supporters wondering why he got the award
Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: DukeN
So apparently he was unanimously awarded this - all of the 12 panelists voted for him, and and to paraphrase one of them, the only people taking an issue to this are his political rivals (and their sympathizers) and the American media. Which makes sense, as those are the two most ignorant groups of people in the world.
this thread is full of Obama supporters wondering why he got the award
Perhaps that speaks to the collective IQ of the board here, and possibly that these posters aren't as intelligent as they like to think they are?
Perspective helps, especially when you have some outward curiosity.
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: DukeN
So apparently he was unanimously awarded this - all of the 12 panelists voted for him, and and to paraphrase one of them, the only people taking an issue to this are his political rivals (and their sympathizers) and the American media. Which makes sense, as those are the two most ignorant groups of people in the world.
this thread is full of Obama supporters wondering why he got the award
Perhaps that speaks to the collective IQ of the board here, and possibly that these posters aren't as intelligent as they like to think they are?
Perspective helps, especially when you have some outward curiosity.
Are you calling Obama an idiot?
"I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures that have been honoured by this prize." B.O.
... let?s look at the history of the Peace Prize. Alfred Nobel?s testament assigned the responsibility of the Peace Prize to the Norwegian parliament, which is called the Storting. When Nobel died in 1896, Norway was not yet independent, though there was local self-rule. Thus the Norwegians would be in charge of the Peace Prize because they would be able to keep the Prize untainted from national political concerns.
Norway gained independence in 1905 and gained control over its own foreign policy. The Storting selects the Nobel Committee, but the tradition is to select emeritus members of the political community that are no longer in active politics. This seems to been changing with recent membership choices.
Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: DukeN
So apparently he was unanimously awarded this - all of the 12 panelists voted for him, and and to paraphrase one of them, the only people taking an issue to this are his political rivals (and their sympathizers) and the American media. Which makes sense, as those are the two most ignorant groups of people in the world.
this thread is full of Obama supporters wondering why he got the award
Perhaps that speaks to the collective IQ of the board here, and possibly that these posters aren't as intelligent as they like to think they are?
Perspective helps, especially when you have some outward curiosity.
Are you calling Obama an idiot?
"I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures that have been honoured by this prize." B.O.
There's a thing called humility - which is different than the "know-all" mindset that posters here are full of.
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: DukeN
So apparently he was unanimously awarded this - all of the 12 panelists voted for him, and and to paraphrase one of them, the only people taking an issue to this are his political rivals (and their sympathizers) and the American media. Which makes sense, as those are the two most ignorant groups of people in the world.
this thread is full of Obama supporters wondering why he got the award
Perhaps that speaks to the collective IQ of the board here, and possibly that these posters aren't as intelligent as they like to think they are?
Perspective helps, especially when you have some outward curiosity.
Are you calling Obama an idiot?
"I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures that have been honoured by this prize." B.O.
There's a thing called humility - which is different than the "know-all" mindset that posters here are full of.
Oh, you need more? Ok.
"I am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the Nobel Committee. Let me be clear: I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations.
And I know that throughout history, the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes. And that is why I will accept this award as a call to action -- a call for all nations to confront the common challenges of the 21st century."
He was not given the award for doing anything. He was given the award on the hope that he does something.
Regardless, your attack on the intelligence of those whose opnions differ, including some of the finest minds in the country even on the left, amply demonstrates your partisanship on the matter.
Originally posted by: DukeN
Perhaps the people questioning the award need to get a clue and realise, it's not about the achievements?
Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: DukeN
So apparently he was unanimously awarded this - all of the 12 panelists voted for him, and and to paraphrase one of them, the only people taking an issue to this are his political rivals (and their sympathizers) and the American media. Which makes sense, as those are the two most ignorant groups of people in the world.
this thread is full of Obama supporters wondering why he got the award
Perhaps that speaks to the collective IQ of the board here, and possibly that these posters aren't as intelligent as they like to think they are?
Perspective helps, especially when you have some outward curiosity.
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: DukeN
So apparently he was unanimously awarded this - all of the 12 panelists voted for him, and and to paraphrase one of them, the only people taking an issue to this are his political rivals (and their sympathizers) and the American media. Which makes sense, as those are the two most ignorant groups of people in the world.
this thread is full of Obama supporters wondering why he got the award
Perhaps that speaks to the collective IQ of the board here, and possibly that these posters aren't as intelligent as they like to think they are?
Perspective helps, especially when you have some outward curiosity.
I was wondering why it took so long for this particular slur to be made by another person who doesn't get why Obama didn't deserve the award.
So I can now add 'stupidity' to the list that also includes 'hater', 'bitter', 'loser', 'racist' and a few other slurs hurled at people who look at this award and simply shake their collective head.
Now, so YOU can understand why so many people look at this and laugh... Imagine a kid who never played a down of college football wins the Heisman Trophy over many, many, many other qualified candidates who have proven their worthiness for such an honor. And when asked to explain, the Heisman committee says they hope the award inspires him to be a better football player.
In a nutshell... that is Obama's Nobel Peace Prize. He didn't even have a chance to suit up before he got nominated. And he hasn't done much of anything since. There's a lot of people out there who Hope? he does great things. But to paraphrase John Stewart, he has spent a lot of time and energy loading up his plate... when is he going to start chowing down?
Three of the five members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee had objections to the Nobel Peace Prize being awarded to US President Barack Obama, the Norwegian tabloid Verdens Gang (VG) reported Thursday.
"VG has spoken to a number of sources who confirmed the impression that a majority of the Nobel committee, at first, had not decided to give the peace prize to Barack Obama," the newspaper said.
In a surprise move last Friday, the Nobel committee attributed the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama less than nine months after he had taken office.
The committee, appointed by the Norwegian parliament, honoured Obama for "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."
"The committee was unanimous," its influential secretary Geir Lundestad told AFP on Friday.
But Inger-Marie Ytterhorn, who represented the right-wing populist Progress Party on the committee, led the way in objecting to the choice of Obama because she questioned his ability to keep his promises, the newspaper said.
It also said the representative of the Conservative Party, Kaci Kullmann Five, and Aagot Valle, the representative of the Socialist Left, had objections.
The choice for Obama was however strongly supported by committee chairman Thorbjoern Jagland and Sissel Roenbeck, both representatives of the Labour Party.
The members of the committee represent their parties but do not sit in Norway's parliament.
"Each year, we start with many candidates and many different points of view and agree as the discussions move along. This year was no exception," Lundestad commented Thursday.
The newspaper quotes Ytterhorn and Five as saying they both supported the committee's final decision.
Obama himself said he was "surprised" and "deeply humbled" by the prize.
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Majority of Nobel jury 'objected to Obama prize'[/b]
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It's the gift that keeps on giving...
Majority of Nobel jury 'objected to Obama prize'
Oct 15 07:23 AM US/Eastern
Three of the five members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee had objections to the Nobel Peace Prize being awarded to US President Barack Obama, the Norwegian tabloid Verdens Gang (VG) reported Thursday.
"VG has spoken to a number of sources who confirmed the impression that a majority of the Nobel committee, at first, had not decided to give the peace prize to Barack Obama," the newspaper said.
In a surprise move last Friday, the Nobel committee attributed the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama less than nine months after he had taken office.
The committee, appointed by the Norwegian parliament, honoured Obama for "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."
"The committee was unanimous," its influential secretary Geir Lundestad told AFP on Friday.
But Inger-Marie Ytterhorn, who represented the right-wing populist Progress Party on the committee, led the way in objecting to the choice of Obama because she questioned his ability to keep his promises, the newspaper said.
It also said the representative of the Conservative Party, Kaci Kullmann Five, and Aagot Valle, the representative of the Socialist Left, had objections.
The choice for Obama was however strongly supported by committee chairman Thorbjoern Jagland and Sissel Roenbeck, both representatives of the Labour Party.
The members of the committee represent their parties but do not sit in Norway's parliament.
"Each year, we start with many candidates and many different points of view and agree as the discussions move along. This year was no exception," Lundestad commented Thursday.
The newspaper quotes Ytterhorn and Five as saying they both supported the committee's final decision.
Obama himself said he was "surprised" and "deeply humbled" by the prize.
Nice. :laugh:
http://www.breitbart.com/artic...96e.741&show_article=1
Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It's the gift that keeps on giving...
Majority of Nobel jury 'objected to Obama prize'
Oct 15 07:23 AM US/Eastern
Three of the five members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee had objections to the Nobel Peace Prize being awarded to US President Barack Obama, the Norwegian tabloid Verdens Gang (VG) reported Thursday.
"VG has spoken to a number of sources who confirmed the impression that a majority of the Nobel committee, at first, had not decided to give the peace prize to Barack Obama," the newspaper said.
In a surprise move last Friday, the Nobel committee attributed the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama less than nine months after he had taken office.
The committee, appointed by the Norwegian parliament, honoured Obama for "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."
"The committee was unanimous," its influential secretary Geir Lundestad told AFP on Friday.
But Inger-Marie Ytterhorn, who represented the right-wing populist Progress Party on the committee, led the way in objecting to the choice of Obama because she questioned his ability to keep his promises, the newspaper said.
It also said the representative of the Conservative Party, Kaci Kullmann Five, and Aagot Valle, the representative of the Socialist Left, had objections.
The choice for Obama was however strongly supported by committee chairman Thorbjoern Jagland and Sissel Roenbeck, both representatives of the Labour Party.
The members of the committee represent their parties but do not sit in Norway's parliament.
"Each year, we start with many candidates and many different points of view and agree as the discussions move along. This year was no exception," Lundestad commented Thursday.
The newspaper quotes Ytterhorn and Five as saying they both supported the committee's final decision.
Obama himself said he was "surprised" and "deeply humbled" by the prize.
Nice. :laugh:
http://www.breitbart.com/artic...96e.741&show_article=1
Yes, the gift that keeps on giving, based on the opinions of the Norwegian tabloid Verdens Gang (VG).
What else did you take to heart you saw on Fox News today?
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It's the gift that keeps on giving...
Majority of Nobel jury 'objected to Obama prize'
Oct 15 07:23 AM US/Eastern
Three of the five members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee had objections to the Nobel Peace Prize being awarded to US President Barack Obama, the Norwegian tabloid Verdens Gang (VG) reported Thursday.
"VG has spoken to a number of sources who confirmed the impression that a majority of the Nobel committee, at first, had not decided to give the peace prize to Barack Obama," the newspaper said.
In a surprise move last Friday, the Nobel committee attributed the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama less than nine months after he had taken office.
The committee, appointed by the Norwegian parliament, honoured Obama for "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."
"The committee was unanimous," its influential secretary Geir Lundestad told AFP on Friday.
But Inger-Marie Ytterhorn, who represented the right-wing populist Progress Party on the committee, led the way in objecting to the choice of Obama because she questioned his ability to keep his promises, the newspaper said.
It also said the representative of the Conservative Party, Kaci Kullmann Five, and Aagot Valle, the representative of the Socialist Left, had objections.
The choice for Obama was however strongly supported by committee chairman Thorbjoern Jagland and Sissel Roenbeck, both representatives of the Labour Party.
The members of the committee represent their parties but do not sit in Norway's parliament.
"Each year, we start with many candidates and many different points of view and agree as the discussions move along. This year was no exception," Lundestad commented Thursday.
The newspaper quotes Ytterhorn and Five as saying they both supported the committee's final decision.
Obama himself said he was "surprised" and "deeply humbled" by the prize.
Nice. :laugh:
http://www.breitbart.com/artic...96e.741&show_article=1
Yes, the gift that keeps on giving, based on the opinions of the Norwegian tabloid Verdens Gang (VG).
What else did you take to heart you saw on Fox News today?
Breitbart actually... but thank you for proving once again that politics is a team sport. The how and why don't really matter as long as it's your guy who's winning.
]"The committee was unanimous," its influential secretary Geir Lundestad told AFP on Friday.