Obama Awarded Nobel Peace Prize

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crisscross

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
I can't believe how many negative comments there are on Obama winning the peace prize, but the Nobel committee has decided the climate of hope and reduced tensions is worthy of recognition. But still, an emotion is as valid as a fact, and once again international diplomacy is starting to work again. Some people may think there is no work and effort behind this, but a real pro makes it look effortless. The real work got done behind the scenes, did not make headlines, and that is part of the reasons it succeeds, simply because it did not make headlines with everyone and their brother and law putting their emotional 2 cents in.

And maybe even more galling for some, the quiet diplomacy of Hillary should get some credit also.

I am an Obama supporter but I would expect you need more than intention to get a Nobel peace prize. In the future yes, but 6 months into his Presidency with no notable achievement no freaking way.

While not as appalling as Arafat's selection this was a pretty bad choice.
 

cubeless

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i am certainly relieved about him making peace with mars... that one had me worried...

but i have to go with the "encourage the winner to keep pursuing some path the awarders desire..." route...

now let's start a pool on whether mcc gets more troops now...
 

Fear No Evil

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I honestly think even liberals aren't too happy about this. I bet even Mr. Ego himself doesn't think he deserves it (Yet.) I don't think this helps the Obama Presidency. Although I do wonder if this is the reason he's been delaying on troops in Afghanistan? Whats a few more American soldiers dead when you can with the Peace Prize baby!

 

FerrelGeek

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: FerrelGeek
Originally posted by: poohbear
wow, this award was a shock to liberals as well. I mean, i like the guy, he's very inspirational, but 9 months into his term he got this?? deeds speak louder than words, and the guy has been talking alot but he really has'nt done anything significant yet. Its way to premature to give him a peace prize. Kinda makes a joke of the nobel peace prize. if i talk alot about what i WANT to do it doesnt merit a prize until i've done it.

You are obviously a Bush oving, frothing, rabid, mouth-breathing, mulletheaded, knuckle-dragging, genetic mutant, Limbaugh loving, conservative freak. Prepare to be libertrolled you worthless pig.

/sarcasm
Self aggrandizing will get you nowhere

It's obviously worked for our president. So what are your thoughts on what poohbear said. In all seriousness, I think he said what a lot of people (Obama supporters included) are thinking and he said it ver well. My sarcasm was directed at the people who are screaming 'right wing hate!' when there is no real evidence of that in this thread.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: shiner
Originally posted by: waggy
wait? for what?

pfft you guys are idiots. didn't you know the people on the commite have a time machine? they went foreword 20 years to see President Obama (yeah people keep electing him). Sure we are 20000 google in debt but EVERYONE has health care, food, housing, HD2 TV's etc.

and there is peace in the world and with Mars.

I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missouri...errr....Mars!!!

you racist! hateing on the green man!
 

alchemize

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I can't wait to see how many more troops the nobel peace prize winner sends into Afghanistan



LOL peace prize moments in history:
1973 Henry Kissigner
1978 Sadat
1990 Gorby
1994 Arafat
2001 Kofi Annan
2005 IAEA/Mohamed ElBaradei
2007 Al Gore
2009 Obama

Not saying Obama won't ever be deserving, but he sure as hell isn't now. I will say, this is a better win than Gore which was the biggest LOL of all time...
 

cubeless

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from cnbc...

U.S. President Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for giving the world "hope for a better future" with his work for peace and calls to reduce the global stockpile of nuclear weapons.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee praised Obama for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples".

"Very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the committee said in a citation.





it's all about hope... change is for another day...
 

Bird222

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Did it dawn on any of you that maybe they were looking at work he did as a senator? I'm not saying he deserved it, but having been nominator only 11 days in office maybe they were looking at other work.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Bird222
Did it dawn on any of you that maybe they were looking at work he did as a senator? I'm not saying he deserved it, but having been nominator only 11 days in office maybe they were looking at other work.
They did look at his work as a Senator - running for president. :laugh:
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Well now that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are pretty much taken care of, Israel is at peace with its neighbors, the Palestinians are happy, China is treating their people with respect, Iran has stopped their nuke program, and North Korea is talking about rejoining the south in a united Korea...........

Mr. Obama.. can you do something about the free falling $, the 10% unemployment rate, and the general SHIT the economy is taking? Thanks!

Not to mention, the first points seem to go along quite nicely with the phrase "Right place at the right time".

Afghanistan and Iraq had to end sometime - Obama has done nothing to facilitate this. He just happens to be President when troops are beginning their withdraw.

Israel and Palestine at peace- Just because we haven't heard about mass explosions means nothing. Every once in a while they both quiet down. Obama has really done nothing at all over there (I don't blame him - those guys have been fighting the same fight for hundreds of years).

If I remember correctly, China just had quite a few incidents that were quite the opposite of peaceful.

Iran hasn't stopped anything. They said "Hey - we are making nukes over here. Give us a month to hide them and then you can come and take a look at our facilities".

North Korea doing anything positive? There was an article written once and it had the phrase "How can rational people predict the actions of the irrational". Kim Jong Il, has waffled more times than a waffle house. One day he decides to stop enriching uranium. Next day, he is firing missiles. Then he wants aid. Next day he is enriching again.... its a pretty vicious and slightly unpredictable cycle.

And yea the economy. Man am I glad both Presidents felt the need to print more money to send a stimulus through. I'm even more glad that the government felt the need to take control of a private business, lend money to auto companies, and now propose that spending is the best way to get out of debt. :roll:

Maybe some president will wise up and figure out that the market is not decided by one man and to just let it do its thing as a FREE market!

(That said I completely caught your sarcasm Fear No Evil - I just felt the need to elaborate).

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That said, now I have to deal with people saying that I am racist because I don't agree with this award. Or that I am not really patriotic. Or that I am blindly supporting right wing policy.

I'm certainly not racist - I hate hate hate that argument. Just as an example as to how stupid that argument is - when Obama won, 2 girls ran up and down my hall (I'm an RA) screaming "F*** yea" repeatedly. When I stepped out and yelled at them they claimed that I was just saying that because they were black.

Honestly regardless if any other American President had won this award this early in, I would be disappointed too. You wonder why other countries hate us sometimes. Why we are called ignorant? We blindly support a person who has clearly received an award over much more qualified candidates.

As for policy - honestly I could care less what the guy supports when it comes to this prize (I could care less about a person's policy in almost every situation). He is a nice guy with good intentions - that isn't what this award is about.

The fact of the matter is: race and political views aside, so far he has done nothing for the world (And America has merely sunken further into a depression).

-Kevin
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I honestly think even liberals aren't too happy about this. I bet even Mr. Ego himself doesn't think he deserves it (Yet.) I don't think this helps the Obama Presidency. Although I do wonder if this is the reason he's been delaying on troops in Afghanistan? Whats a few more American soldiers dead when you can with the Peace Prize baby!

Everything after the first sentence is sorta crazy, so I'll address the first line.

I wouldn't necessarily consider myself liberal, but a supporter of the President, yes. And yes, I think it doesn't make a whole lot of sense right now. Unhappy might not be the right word. If it raises our stature in the int'l community and makes diplomacy, trade, etc. easier, then I'll take it, whether or not I think he deserves it (and as I said, I don't believe he does)
 

FerrelGeek

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Originally posted by: Bird222
Did it dawn on any of you that maybe they were looking at work he did as a senator? I'm not saying he deserved it, but having been nominator only 11 days in office maybe they were looking at other work.

Well, considering that he spent a good part of his tenure as senator running for president, what would that work be? Serious question, btw.
 

Red Irish

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At the present time, Obama has done nothing to deserve this award, seems a bit ludicrous to me.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: Bird222
Did it dawn on any of you that maybe they were looking at work he did as a senator? I'm not saying he deserved it, but having been nominator only 11 days in office maybe they were looking at other work.

Examples? I'm not aware of anything earth shattering he did in his 3 terms as senator...
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Bird222
Did it dawn on any of you that maybe they were looking at work he did as a senator? I'm not saying he deserved it, but having been nominator only 11 days in office maybe they were looking at other work.

Nuclear disarmament with Sen. Lugar would be the only thing of note...but if we're going by senate stuff, obviously Sen. Lugar would deserve it way more.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: Bird222
Did it dawn on any of you that maybe they were looking at work he did as a senator? I'm not saying he deserved it, but having been nominator only 11 days in office maybe they were looking at other work.

Examples? I'm not aware of anything earth shattering he did in his 2/3 terms as senator...

Gawker: "His Grammy's reportedly very jealous." :laugh:
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: shiner
Yeah, they seem to have lost awareness of the old saying "Actions speak louder than words."
Indeed they do. Obama's actions include actively reaching out to the other countries of the world to embrace diplomacy and collaboration. His actions include immediately and decisively dispelling the adversarial environment fostered by the Cheney/Bush reign. His actions include NOT starting any new wars, not unilaterally invading other countries on imaginary evidence, not issuing one pugnacious ultimatum after another. As the leader of the only remaining superpower, he replaced a shoot-first schoolyard bully with someone who's thoughtful, articulate, and actually willing to work with the world. In short, Obama's changed the tone across the globe, from adversarial and dictatorial to cooperative. That may not seem like much to the sore losers in the Fox News crowd. To the rest of the world, however, it's obviously quite a step forward.

I have mixed feelings about Obama's domestic performance, but he's made tremendous progress in repairing international relations. Congratulations, President Obama. You make America proud.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
ohh god now we have to deal with more rabid right foaming at the mouth

No kidding. This aught to send the lunatic rush limbaughites into a rabid frenzy.
 

surfsatwerk

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: shiner
Yeah, they seem to have lost awareness of the old saying "Actions speak louder than words."
Indeed they do. Obama's actions include actively reaching out to the other countries of the world to embrace diplomacy and collaboration. His actions include immediately and decisively dispelling the adversarial environment fostered by the Cheney/Bush reign. His actions include NOT starting any new wars, not unilaterally invading other countries on imaginary evidence, not issuing one pugnacious ultimatum after another. As the leader of the only remaining superpower, he replaced a shoot-first schoolyard bully with someone who's thoughtful, articulate, and actually willing to work with the world. In short, Obama's changed the tone across the globe, from adversarial and dictatorial to cooperative. That may not seem like much to the sore losers in the Fox News crowd. To the rest of the world, however, it's obviously quite a step forward.

I have mixed feelings about Obama's domestic performance, but he's made tremendous progress in repairing international relations. Congratulations, President Obama. You make America proud.

You didn't read the rest of the thread, you're suppose to talk about how this is a joke and the Nobel Prize has become a political sham.
 
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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: shiner
Yeah, they seem to have lost awareness of the old saying "Actions speak louder than words."
Indeed they do. Obama's actions include actively reaching out to the other countries of the world to embrace diplomacy and collaboration. His actions include immediately and decisively dispelling the adversarial environment fostered by the Cheney/Bush reign. His actions include NOT starting any new wars, not unilaterally invading other countries on imaginary evidence, not issuing one pugnacious ultimatum after another. As the leader of the only remaining superpower, he replaced a shoot-first schoolyard bully with someone who's thoughtful, articulate, and actually willing to work with the world. In short, Obama's changed the tone across the globe, from adversarial and dictatorial to cooperative. That may not seem like much to the sore losers in the Fox News crowd. To the rest of the world, however, it's obviously quite a step forward.

I have mixed feelings about Obama's domestic performance, but he's made tremendous progress in repairing international relations. Congratulations, President Obama. You make America proud.
ROFL
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: shiner
Yeah, they seem to have lost awareness of the old saying "Actions speak louder than words."
Indeed they do. Obama's actions include actively reaching out to the other countries of the world to embrace diplomacy and collaboration. His actions include immediately and decisively dispelling the adversarial environment fostered by the Cheney/Bush reign. His actions include NOT starting any new wars, not unilaterally invading other countries on imaginary evidence, not issuing one pugnacious ultimatum after another. As the leader of the only remaining superpower, he replaced a shoot-first schoolyard bully with someone who's thoughtful, articulate, and actually willing to work with the world. In short, Obama's changed the tone across the globe, from adversarial and dictatorial to cooperative. That may not seem like much to the sore losers in the Fox News crowd. To the rest of the world, however, it's obviously quite a step forward.

I have mixed feelings about Obama's domestic performance, but he's made tremendous progress in repairing international relations. Congratulations, President Obama. You make America proud.

I agree with you: Obama has done all of these things, but I still don't think he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize at the time of writing and I think that by awarding it to him they have somehow detracted from the significance of the award.
 

cubeless

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come on y'all... quit looking for some objective criteria... this is a beauty contest award, and bo was the prettiest to the awarders...

the committee is thanking the american people for voting him in and likes his speeches and wants him to keep on whatever path they think he is on...
 

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Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
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More often, the prize is awarded to encourage those who receive it to see the effort through, sometimes at critical moments.

For the first time a sitting American President, elected by a majority of the people, received a great international honor. You would think most Americans would be happy. The world certainly seems to be. It's just a few losers and sour puses who seem to be whining. Seems like there is no pleasing them.
He was nominated for NO legitimate reason. He had zero credibility as President, zero time with foreign policy at that time. As much as I didn't care for the man, Bush should have nominated at least the first time around based on whatever "legitimate" criteria was used. That's the issue. This was set up, and that means the prize has become the circus that others have been saying.

Ridiculous.
 
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