Obama calls small town Americans bitter

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Vic

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Originally posted by: AAjax
Dose Obama speak for all of them? Truely what dose he really know about any of them? Or even a perponderance of them?

Does Hillary Rodham Clinton or John Sydney McCain III?

At least Obama's upbringing was white middle class. Those 2 both come from Old Money.
 

SirStev0

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Polls Unchanged By "Bitter" Comment

I guess PA residents are smarter than McCain/Hillary thought.

I personally think it is because PA residences know they are bitter that their jobs were pissed away. Good to hear someone address it instead of sweeping it under the carpet with an anecdote about the time grandpappy took us shooting behind his private cabin on a resort lake in the pocono's.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Polls Unchanged By "Bitter" Comment

I guess PA residents are smarter than McCain/Hillary thought.

Or that one poll is no more right that this one finding Hillary up by 20 pts.
http://www.americanresearchgro...pres08/padem8-705.html

we'll find out next week. of course even if she wins by 20 no one here will think it means anything. and they'd mostly be right. theres no real chance she'll catch up in delegates or popular vote. but the more states she wins, the stronger her argument to the supers becomes, even though its pretty weak at its best.
 
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Painman
Obama response now up on Youtube

Take from it whatever you will.

*shrugs*

Watching that, I do not see how people can delude themselves into believing that this man does not deserve to be POTUS.

Yes we need more presidents to piss on the Constitution.
The presidents job is to uphold the values of the constitution, not to promise change. IF you want change from the current, then over throw it. Otherwise, follow the laws of the Constitution as laid down by the founders of this nation.
 
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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Brigandier
Originally posted by: OrByte
I dont get how what he says is controversial

is it because people think he is sterotyping?

It's because Obama is racist against bitter, ignorant small time white Americans.

is it still racism if what he says is true?

What he says isn't true. You show me a majority of small town people that are bitter, gun loving, God fearing people and I'll believe you. As it is, Obama is a Big town, gun fearing, God fearing person. He doesn't like small town people because he thinks they are all "Typical White people" like his grandma.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Painman
Obama response now up on Youtube

Take from it whatever you will.

*shrugs*

Watching that, I do not see how people can delude themselves into believing that this man does not deserve to be POTUS.

Yes we need more presidents to piss on the Constitution.
The presidents job is to uphold the values of the constitution, not to promise change. IF you want change from the current, then over throw it. Otherwise, follow the laws of the Constitution as laid down by the founders of this nation.

And where exactly did he piss on the Constitution? Oh wait... no where...

And really... this is a democracy. Violent overthrow was intended by the founders of this nation to be the last resort for change, with the democratic process the first resort. Your logic is for sh!t. Using it, we may as well disband the Congress...
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Brigandier
Originally posted by: OrByte
I dont get how what he says is controversial

is it because people think he is sterotyping?

It's because Obama is racist against bitter, ignorant small time white Americans.

is it still racism if what he says is true?

What he says isn't true. You show me a majority of small town people that are bitter, gun loving, God fearing people and I'll believe you. As it is, Obama is a Big town, gun fearing, God fearing person. He doesn't like small town people because he thinks they are all "Typical White people" like his grandma.

Stop getting all your political information from hate radio, eh? :roll:
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Painman
Obama response now up on Youtube

Take from it whatever you will.

*shrugs*

Watching that, I do not see how people can delude themselves into believing that this man does not deserve to be POTUS.

Yes we need more presidents to piss on the Constitution.
The presidents job is to uphold the values of the constitution, not to promise change. IF you want change from the current, then over throw it. Otherwise, follow the laws of the Constitution as laid down by the founders of this nation.

You support GWB. I do not believe you understand what the Presidents job is.
 

Vic

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The lies and desperation of the Bushie crowd against Obama is starting to get so bad that I've gone from wondering stupid how they are to thinking about stupid they must be to think I'm stupid enough to buy their bullshit.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Painman
Obama response now up on Youtube

Take from it whatever you will.

*shrugs*

Watching that, I do not see how people can delude themselves into believing that this man does not deserve to be POTUS.

Yes we need more presidents to piss on the Constitution.
The presidents job is to uphold the values of the constitution, not to promise change. IF you want change from the current, then over throw it. Otherwise, follow the laws of the Constitution as laid down by the founders of this nation.

I know and completely agree. I was with a tribe of Pygmies the other day and we were discussing a similar critical issue, the preservation of the life affirming tradition of sticking spears in elephant bellies. Change is threatening this vaunted tradition and with it everything Pygmy.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Vic
The lies and desperation of the Bushie crowd against Obama is starting to get so bad that I've gone from wondering stupid how they are to thinking about stupid they must be to think I'm stupid enough to buy their bullshit.

Yeah, not only are they racist, religious, and homophobes - they are stupid to boot! WOOT!!!
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Yes we need more presidents to piss on the Constitution.
The presidents job is to uphold the values of the constitution, not to promise change. IF you want change from the current, then over throw it. Otherwise, follow the laws of the Constitution as laid down by the founders of this nation.

Let's see, who should I believe to have more knowledge about Constitutional Law, internet poster JeffreyLebowski or someone who taught Constitutional Law at one of the most prestigious law schools in this country. This is a tough one. Can you point out to me where he's planning on breaking the laws set forth in the Constitution?
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Painman
Obama response now up on Youtube

Take from it whatever you will.

*shrugs*

Watching that, I do not see how people can delude themselves into believing that this man does not deserve to be POTUS.

Yes we need more presidents to piss on the Constitution.
The presidents job is to uphold the values of the constitution, not to promise change. IF you want change from the current, then over throw it. Otherwise, follow the laws of the Constitution as laid down by the founders of this nation.

Where have you been the last 8 years??

Your post is really mind blowing.

Wow!
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
The lies and desperation of the Bushie crowd against Obama is starting to get so bad that I've gone from wondering stupid how they are to thinking about stupid they must be to think I'm stupid enough to buy their bullshit.

Yeah, not only are they racist, religious, and homophobes - they are stupid to boot! WOOT!!!

Case in point. I said the Bushie crowd, not small-townspeople, but look at you run to pretend to that all small-townspeople are Bushies. Like I said, how stupid are you to think that I'm (or the rest of us are) that stupid?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Yes we need more presidents to piss on the Constitution.
The presidents job is to uphold the values of the constitution, not to promise change. IF you want change from the current, then over throw it. Otherwise, follow the laws of the Constitution as laid down by the founders of this nation.

Let's see, who should I believe to have more knowledge about Constitutional Law, internet poster JeffreyLebowski or someone who taught Constitutional Law at one of the most prestigious law schools in this country. This is a tough one. Can you point out to me where he's planning on breaking the laws set forth in the Constitution?

It's when he said that there are pressing issues in this country more important than the already-protected right to own a gun. Can you believe it?
And when he said that there are pressing issues in this country more important than the already-protected right to freedom of religion. And this just right after the Bushies were condemning him for his own choice of religion (yet still Christian) just a week ago. Can you believe Obama's audacity! My God, get a rope!

:roll:
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Yes we need more presidents to piss on the Constitution.
The presidents job is to uphold the values of the constitution, not to promise change. IF you want change from the current, then over throw it. Otherwise, follow the laws of the Constitution as laid down by the founders of this nation.

Let's see, who should I believe to have more knowledge about Constitutional Law, internet poster JeffreyLebowski or someone who taught Constitutional Law at one of the most prestigious law schools in this country. This is a tough one. Can you point out to me where he's planning on breaking the laws set forth in the Constitution?

It's when he said that there are pressing issues in this country more important than the already-protected right to own a gun. Can you believe it?
And when he said that there are pressing issues in this country more important than the already-protected right to freedom of religion. And this just right after the Bushies were condemning him for his own choice of religion (yet still Christian) just a week ago. Can you believe Obama's audacity! My God, get a rope!

:roll:

The only issue that Obama seems to run close to Constitutional issues that I'm aware of are gun control issues and generally, that's an issue that will be interpreted by the Supreme Court over the President. Once the Supreme Court comes down with their judgment in the DC case there'll basically be very little that Obama can affect it. This is, of course, assuming that Obama doesn't understand moderation in his stances. He's already been over this issue with gun control and his understanding that it's not likely something he'll even bother with because the opinions on it are so split. All in all, I just don't see how Lebowski can even pretend as if Obama is going to do any trampling.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
The lies and desperation of the Bushie crowd against Obama is starting to get so bad that I've gone from wondering stupid how they are to thinking about stupid they must be to think I'm stupid enough to buy their bullshit.

Yeah, not only are they racist, religious, and homophobes - they are stupid to boot! WOOT!!!

Case in point. I said the Bushie crowd, not small-townspeople, but look at you run to pretend to that all small-townspeople are Bushies. Like I said, how stupid are you to think that I'm (or the rest of us are) that stupid?

:roll: You assume I was talking about small-town people instead of the "Bushie crowd". We've heard it time and time again here that Bushies are racist, religious, and homophobes... But hey... whatever it takes in defending obamarama...
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
The lies and desperation of the Bushie crowd against Obama is starting to get so bad that I've gone from wondering stupid how they are to thinking about stupid they must be to think I'm stupid enough to buy their bullshit.

Yeah, not only are they racist, religious, and homophobes - they are stupid to boot! WOOT!!!

Case in point. I said the Bushie crowd, not small-townspeople, but look at you run to pretend to that all small-townspeople are Bushies. Like I said, how stupid are you to think that I'm (or the rest of us are) that stupid?

:roll: You assume I was talking about small-town people instead of the "Bushie crowd". We've heard it time and time again here that Bushies are racist, religious, and homophobes... But hey... whatever it takes in defending obamarama...

I have never said any of those. Although it makes me wonder what it takes for you to keep defending the President who has done more than any other to expand the power, scope, size, and cost of government, eh? While you simultaneously claim to hold views and ideologies that are almost exactly the opposite of what your President does. I mean... wow. Clearly you are irrational to keep saying what you do while supporting a President who does nothing what you say.

Pardon me though, us Obamaramas got reality to deal with right now. Which, unfortunately, is cleaning up after your delusional psychoses and having to listen to you bitch and moan about it at the same time.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
The lies and desperation of the Bushie crowd against Obama is starting to get so bad that I've gone from wondering stupid how they are to thinking about stupid they must be to think I'm stupid enough to buy their bullshit.

Yeah, not only are they racist, religious, and homophobes - they are stupid to boot! WOOT!!!

Case in point. I said the Bushie crowd, not small-townspeople, but look at you run to pretend to that all small-townspeople are Bushies. Like I said, how stupid are you to think that I'm (or the rest of us are) that stupid?

:roll: You assume I was talking about small-town people instead of the "Bushie crowd". We've heard it time and time again here that Bushies are racist, religious, and homophobes... But hey... whatever it takes in defending obamarama...

I have never said any of those. Although it makes me wonder what it takes for you to keep defending the President who has done more than any other to expand the power, scope, size, and cost of government, eh? While you simultaneously claim to hold views and ideologies that are almost exactly the opposite of what your President does. I mean... wow. Clearly you are irrational to keep saying what you do while supporting a President who does nothing what you say.

Pardon me though, us Obamaramas got reality to deal with right now. Which, unfortunately, is cleaning up after your delusional psychoses and having to listen to you bitch and moan about it at the same time.

Defending? I have NOT supported the expansion of the FED so try again. I am one of the many Conservatives who has been mad as hell about the spending and growth of gov't. Sheesh...
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Defending? I have NOT supported the expansion of the FED so try again. I am one of the many Conservatives who has been mad as hell about the spending and growth of gov't. Sheesh...

Which is why you've supported Bush and are supporting McCain now, right? Because you're mad as hell as what Bush has done and what McCain intends to continue doing?

You can be as mad as you want, but your walk isn't matching your talk, and your neverending denial of that is really starting to have negative repercussions for our country.

Why the hell do you think a libertarian like me is having to hitch my wagon to left-leaner like Obama? Because I agree with everything he says? Hell no! Because we simply can't afford 4 more years of your party's cronyism and corruption, and we need someone who can talk straight and get people motivated into righting the ship and cleaning up the mess you've made.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Defending? I have NOT supported the expansion of the FED so try again. I am one of the many Conservatives who has been mad as hell about the spending and growth of gov't. Sheesh...

Which is why you've supported Bush and are supporting McCain now, right? Because you're mad as hell as what Bush has done and what McCain intends to continue doing?

You can be as mad as you want, but your walk isn't matching your talk, and your neverending denial of that is really starting to have negative repercussions for our country.

Why the hell do you think a libertarian like me is having to hitch my wagon to left-leaner like Obama? Because I agree with everything he says? Hell no! Because we simply can't afford 4 more years of your party's cronyism and corruption, and we need someone who can talk straight and get people motivated into righting the ship and cleaning up the mess you've made.

Whoa there tiger. Where have I professed my support of McCain? I've repeatedly stated I may just sit on my hands this fall. But hey, if your knee twitches....
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Defending? I have NOT supported the expansion of the FED so try again. I am one of the many Conservatives who has been mad as hell about the spending and growth of gov't. Sheesh...

Which is why you've supported Bush and are supporting McCain now, right? Because you're mad as hell as what Bush has done and what McCain intends to continue doing?

You can be as mad as you want, but your walk isn't matching your talk, and your neverending denial of that is really starting to have negative repercussions for our country.

Why the hell do you think a libertarian like me is having to hitch my wagon to left-leaner like Obama? Because I agree with everything he says? Hell no! Because we simply can't afford 4 more years of your party's cronyism and corruption, and we need someone who can talk straight and get people motivated into righting the ship and cleaning up the mess you've made.

Whoa there tiger. Where have I professed my support of McCain? I've repeatedly stated I may just sit on my hands this fall. But hey, if your knee twitches....

Your strong involvement here doesn't look anything like sitting on your hands to me... or are you voting for Hillary?
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Defending? I have NOT supported the expansion of the FED so try again. I am one of the many Conservatives who has been mad as hell about the spending and growth of gov't. Sheesh...

Which is why you've supported Bush and are supporting McCain now, right? Because you're mad as hell as what Bush has done and what McCain intends to continue doing?

You can be as mad as you want, but your walk isn't matching your talk, and your neverending denial of that is really starting to have negative repercussions for our country.

Why the hell do you think a libertarian like me is having to hitch my wagon to left-leaner like Obama? Because I agree with everything he says? Hell no! Because we simply can't afford 4 more years of your party's cronyism and corruption, and we need someone who can talk straight and get people motivated into righting the ship and cleaning up the mess you've made.

Whoa there tiger. Where have I professed my support of McCain? I've repeatedly stated I may just sit on my hands this fall. But hey, if your knee twitches....

Your strong involvement here doesn't look anything like sitting on your hands to me... or are you voting for Hillary?

So since I am against both socialists and not a McCain lover - I can't be involved here?
 
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