Obama Campaign Cuts Off Interviews With Florida TV Station

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AWVigo

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I love Joe Biden. He's the only man in a high position of political power that is not afraid of telling you exactly how he feels even if it is "unpopular".
AND - he does it with that creepy smile of his.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Xavier434
The people are also retarded to view it as some form of socialism that is threatening America. It would be really nice if McCain would stop playing this card and educate America just a little bit instead of abusing the idea behind fearing the unknown to drive more votes his direction. Sound familiar?
Dude...you said people are not concerned about the redistribution of wealth and socailism...you're wrong on this...regardless of whether you happen to think they're retarded or not. I understand that you don't like McCain...but I wasn't talking about him now was I? It's interesting that you put the onus on McCain to 'educate' the voters on this issue. And I'm the clueless one...wow.

I never said that people are not concerned about that and I never said you were clueless. I think you are confusing me with another poster.

What I am trying to express is that if people understood what socialism and communism really is then they wouldn't be fearing Obama's tax policies so much. It is nothing more than fear of the unknown and McCain is milking it dry just like Bush milked the fear of terrorism to get votes and support.

In regards to "putting the onus" on McCain to educate the people, I simply stated that it would be nice if he told us the way it really is as opposed to playing the fear card. Do I expect him to do so? Hell no. He doesn't give a shit about doing that and helping America make a educated and responsible voting decision. All he wants is votes no matter how they come.
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Biden did very well answering the questions...but he comes off as a wuss by publically making these 'tough questions' an issue. People are concerned about redistribution of wealth and view it as socialism. The questions could have been a lot more tactful for sure. But the media doesn't always give you a fair shake...does it now? Just ask SP.

Actually, people are NOT concerned... That is just the new talking point of the week. McCain just voted to nationalize the banks and is planning to buy up $300 billion in mortgages... Yet we should worry about Obama being a socialist? Get a clue.
Do you read? Lol...and I'm the clueless one?

Yep... I do.. do you? McCain voted to nationalize the banks and wants to spend 300 billion on mortgages.. yet he is fearmongering that Obama would be more socialist.. it is a complete joke.. one you obviously fell for.
 

Stiganator

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When your husband is a republican media consultant and the questions you read off are point for point McCain smear talking points, you know you're a total tool.
 
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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Xavier434
The people are also retarded to view it as some form of socialism that is threatening America. It would be really nice if McCain would stop playing this card and educate America just a little bit instead of abusing the idea behind fearing the unknown to drive more votes his direction. Sound familiar?
Dude...you said people are not concerned about the redistribution of wealth and socailism...you're wrong on this...regardless of whether you happen to think they're retarded or not. I understand that you don't like McCain...but I wasn't talking about him now was I? It's interesting that you put the onus on McCain to 'educate' the voters on this issue. And I'm the clueless one...wow.

I never said that people are not concerned about that. I think you are confusing me with other poster.

What I am trying to express is that if people understood what socialism and communism really is then they wouldn't be fearing Obama's tax policies so much. It is nothing more than fear of the unknown and McCain is milking it dry just like Bush milked the fear of terrorism to get votes and support.

In regards to "putting the onus" on McCain to educate the people, I simply stated that it would be nice if he told us the way it really is as opposed to playing the fear card. Do I expect him to do so? Hell no. He doesn't give a shit about doing that and helping America make a educated and responsible voting decision. All he wants is votes no matter how they come.
Yeah...thought I was responding to shadow9d9...my bad...sorry.

You know...all politicians are scum...they'll do anything they can to get votes regardless of party. So you think it's low that McCain plays the fear card. Do you think Obama doesn't play the fear card when he touts McCain as 4 more years of Bush? Nobody wants 4 more years of Bush so let's all be afraid that McCain is actually a Bush clone because he has an (R) behind his name...oh noes!!!

And, unlike McCain, Obama doesn't want "votes no matter how they come"? Give me a break. And please tell me just how should McCain go about helping "America make a educated and responsible voting decision"? Maybe he should just endorse Obama to please you. :roll:
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: T2T III
Originally posted by: aphex
There is a big difference between asking a tough question, and asking a loaded question. I think Biden did the right thing.
Given the way Biden has answered - or, tried to answer questions and then stepping in the sh!t with his answers, does this mean all questions asked of him to date have been loaded?

did we watch the same interview? Biden kicked ass in the one I saw.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Yeah...thought I was responding to shadow9d9...my bad...sorry.

You know...all politicians are scum...they'll do anything they can to get votes regardless of party. So you think it's low that McCain plays the fear card. Do you think Obama doesn't play the fear card when he touts McCain as 4 more years of Bush? Nobody wants 4 more years of Bush so let's all be afraid that McCain is actually a Bush clone because he has an (R) behind his name...oh noes!!!

And, unlike McCain, Obama doesn't want "votes no matter how they come"? Give me a break. And please tell me just how should McCain go about helping "America make a educated and responsible voting decision"? Maybe he should just endorse Obama to please you. :roll:

One might also say that the accusation that McCain is 4 more years of Bush is fairly reasonable due to the remarkable similarity between their platforms.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Do you think Obama doesn't play the fear card when he touts McCain as 4 more years of Bush?

Yes, but not in the same way and not nearly as low. Obama's fear card is one which allows the public to make their own opinion based on comparable history between their platforms and voting records. No one is forcing anyone to hate Bush and all of his policies. If you don't like Bush then you probably will not like McCain is what Obama is saying. On the other hand, McCain is playing the fear card strictly on the assumption that people are not educated about what socialism really is and how it negatively and positively effects a country. He is also assuming that most people will not take the time to find out beyond reading a few internet blogs and maybe the wiki at best. He is right to assume so. In other words, his strategy revolves around people being stupid and remaining stupid. One hell of a leader right there!


Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Nobody wants 4 more years of Bush so let's all be afraid that McCain is actually a Bush clone because he has an (R) behind his name...oh noes!!!

That is not why they fear he will be a Bush clone. Personally, while I fear him being a Bush clone in the sense of him being on the offensive side of many military strategies over seas, what I also fear is that he will be another Reagan if not much worse. I very much disapprove of Reaganomics. I find more informed people fearing that than they do fearing another Bush. Those who are uninformed just fear another Bush. So, pick your poison. Both are nasty.


Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
And, unlike McCain, Obama doesn't want "votes no matter how they come"? Give me a break.

Maybe I missed something. Where did I say he didn't? Regardless, this campaign has shown which candidate is willing too stoop lower. Whether or not Obama would do the same thing if in McCain's shoes is something that we will never know. Action speaks louder than speculation.


Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
And please tell me just how should McCain go about helping "America make a educated and responsible voting decision"?

He could start by not trying to sell the ludicrous idea that Obama is a socialist and instead just explain that Obama supports progressive taxation and one which is not terribly aggressive or foreign in this country. He could even go as far as to come out and state that what Obama wants is not socialism knowing very well that it could help his campaign by not driving the fears of the people into believing that his desire to spend 300 billion on bad mortgages is socialism and that Palin's historic windfall tax is socialism.

He is throwing bricks inside of a glass house. It is retarded and I am tired of fear mongering. I can accept pointing out fundamental differences as to why one way might be better than another, but look what is happening using his tactics. A lot of people seriously believe that a vote for Obama is like some sort of gateway drug to Venezuela. It is absolutely preposterous and America thriving on fear needs to end. America's lack of confidence in itself and its government needs to end.

 
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Originally posted by: Xavier434
He is throwing bricks inside of a glass house. It is retarded and I am tired of fear mongering. I can accept pointing out fundamental differences as to why one way might be better than another, but look what is happening using his tactics. A lot of people seriously believe that a vote for Obama is like some sort of gateway drug to Venezuela. It is absolutely preposterous and America thriving on fear needs to end. America's lack of confidence in itself and its government needs to end.
My point was that both candidates are 'fear mongering'...if you want to believe one candidate is better at it than another or if another is more justified by doing it...then so be it...it's pointless for us to get into a 'who's shit stinks worse' argument. I'll leave it as 'shit stinks' which is something we can both agree on.

"America's lack of confidence in itself and its government needs to end." I hope you're right...I hope Obama can accomplish something positive. Looks like he'll get a chance to show us what a good government looks like because right now it's broken all to hell.
 
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