Obama changes "you can keep it" slogan, makes it seem like we misunderstood him

rudeguy

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"Now, if you had one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law and you really liked that plan, what we said was you can keep it if it hasn't changed since the law passed," he said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/11/05/obamacare-you-can-keep-it-update/3440531/


No Obama, that is not what you said. How many hundreds (thousands?) of times did you say "if you like your current plan, you can keep it"? I don't recall him EVER saying "if it hasn't changed since the law was passed".

Lying to us is one thing. Trying to treat us like idiots and pretending you said something other than what you did is just absurd.
 

destey

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OP, hope you don't have any skeletons in your closet. NSA about to be doing some opposition research on your ass.
 

Genx87

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"If you like your insurance you can keep it*"
























*If the insurance doesnt change or make this slogan invalid
 
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runzwithsizorz

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"Now, if you had one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law and you really liked that plan, what we said was you can keep it if it hasn't changed since the law passed," he said.
Since he changed the law 17 times AFTER it was passed, nearly forcing insurance companies to dump people on to Government healthcare.
His so stated goal all along.
 

Texashiker

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I can not believe people are complaining about this?

Clinton lied about free trade, obama lied about health care.

When are the people going to get tired of being lied to?
 

thraashman

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I can not believe people are complaining about this?

Clinton lied about free trade, obama lied about health care.

When are the people going to get tired of being lied to?

Bush jr lied about weapons of mass destruction.
Bush sr lied about no new taxes
Reagan lied about trickle down, iran contra, ... you know lets not list all of Reagan's lies we'll be here all day.

I would like to congratulate the righties on here about something. You've finally found something that Obama said that isn't taken completely out of context in which you have full right to attack him and it not be stupid. He deserves to take shit for this one without doubt. So congrats on finally having something that isn't total bullshit.
 

Agent11

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Do you think Obama would be capable of delivering a 'buck stops here' type speech?
 

monovillage

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He's lying about his lies.

It's not just his lies, it's the lies by all his supporters, the lies by his staff, the lies told by all the Democrat politicians that voted for it and the lies told by a willing media that supported Obamacare from the beginning.


"We have to pass this bill so you can find out what is in it" - Nancy Pelosi
 

rudeguy

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Do you think Obama would be capable of delivering a 'buck stops here' type speech?

he already has

And then he blames someone else a couple days later.

Partisan stuff aside, why do we put up with this? As was stated above, all politicians do this. Its expected of them. Why isn't it a crime to lie to the American people? If I lie to a cop, that's a crime. If I lie to a judge, that's a crime. Why aren't these people held to even higher standards than we are?

Screw all the politicians. Fire these assholes.
 

boomerang

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he already has

And then he blames someone else a couple days later.

Partisan stuff aside, why do we put up with this? As was stated above, all politicians do this. Its expected of them. Why isn't it a crime to lie to the American people? If I lie to a cop, that's a crime. If I lie to a judge, that's a crime. Why aren't these people held to even higher standards than we are?

Screw all the politicians. Fire these assholes.
The answer to many of your questions can be found in understanding who makes the rules.
 

1prophet

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I can not believe people are complaining about this?

Clinton lied about free trade, obama lied about health care.

When are the people going to get tired of being lied to?


When it hits them in the wallet directly and immediately, free trade was like a frog in a slowly boiling pot of water, healthcare is that water being splashed in your face immediately after it boils.
 

unokitty

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USA Today: An empty pledge comes back to haunt Obama

It was a disingenuous promise that has come back to haunt the Obama administration...

The president's premier legislative accomplishment has become both a piñata and an albatross, not an easy feat.

What makes the situation even worse is this was not simply some careless slip of the tongue, but rather a cold-blooded political calculation. The Wall Street Journal reports that way back when the law was being drafted, some White House policy advisers warned that this ironclad guarantee was a stretch. But, the Journal reported, they were overruled by political operatives.

Trust Obama?

LOL

Uno
 

werepossum

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he already has

And then he blames someone else a couple days later.

Partisan stuff aside, why do we put up with this? As was stated above, all politicians do this. Its expected of them. Why isn't it a crime to lie to the American people? If I lie to a cop, that's a crime. If I lie to a judge, that's a crime. Why aren't these people held to even higher standards than we are?

Screw all the politicians. Fire these assholes.
We not only accept politicians lying to us, we reward it and practically make it mandatory. Want to gain and keep power? Tell us what we want to hear.

Tell us lies, tell us sweet little lies.
 

Apple Of Sodom

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"But other presidents have lied, some of which were republicans, so it is ok."

That seems to be overall feeling here. Since it happened before this is OK. He gets a free pass because we didn't find WMDs.

Bullshit. One thing that pisses me off is that Obama NEW he was lying. There is proof and he was 100% in control of the situation. He alone could have changed this, and instead he lied about it to get it passed.
 

boomerang

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"But other presidents have lied, some of which were republicans, so it is ok."
We hear this "logic" repeatedly from the progressive left. It's all based in the concept of "fairness" that has been burned into their brains. Their thought processes gobble it up because it can be used to justify any behavior. We've got posts in P&N this very day in which shit has been dredged up from the early 1800's and used in an attempt to counter what is happening today.

The worst part is that they've been taught this method of thinking means they're smart. They can't see that it is a sign of immaturity and that polite people just pretend they didn't hear what they just heard. This then makes them feel they're "winning". Fine, let them think that. Arguing with adolescent minds is seldom worth the effort. They feel they know it all and must learn from their mistakes. Unfortunately in this case they're dragging the whole nation into their maelstrom of idiocy.
 
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