Obama checkmates himself on sequester

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unokitty

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Why should he be required to do the job of Congress?


I hear you Ryan. Why should anyone expect leadership from the President?

After all, didn't he invent "Leading from behind" with his Libyan policy? Just ask the ambassador how that worked out.

You and I know that Obama isn't responsible for anything don't we? I mean he won the election didn't he? Doesn't that make him in charge? So why are all the little people expecting him to be responsible?

You and I see the big picture. And the big picture is that all of those people that voted for Obama are expecting their payoff. After all, you can't expect them to work for their own Obama phones can you?

And how is Obama going to give back to his supporters if he can't raise taxes?

So what part of "Just shut up and pay more taxes" are these little people having a problem understanding?

Uno
 

dank69

Lifer
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I hear you Ryan. Why should anyone expect leadership from the President?

After all, didn't he invent "Leading from behind" with his Libyan policy? Just ask the ambassador how that worked out.

You and I know that Obama isn't responsible for anything don't we? I mean he won the election didn't he? Doesn't that make him in charge? So why are all the little people expecting him to be responsible?

You and I see the big picture. And the big picture is that all of those people that voted for Obama are expecting their payoff. After all, you can't expect them to work for their own Obama phones can you?

And how is Obama going to give back to his supporters if he can't raise taxes?

So what part of "Just shut up and pay more taxes" are these little people having a problem understanding?

Uno
Great 1000th post! I almost thought you were serious.
 
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And the big picture is that all of those people that voted for Obama are expecting their payoff. After all, you can't expect them to work for their own Obama phones can you?

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Exactly this, 100%.


The 47% who voted him in want their cut. Disgusting.

See my signature, that is what we are paying for.
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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I hear you Ryan. Why should anyone expect leadership from the President?

After all, didn't he invent "Leading from behind" with his Libyan policy? Just ask the ambassador how that worked out.

You and I know that Obama isn't responsible for anything don't we? I mean he won the election didn't he? Doesn't that make him in charge? So why are all the little people expecting him to be responsible?

You and I see the big picture. And the big picture is that all of those people that voted for Obama are expecting their payoff. After all, you can't expect them to work for their own Obama phones can you?

And how is Obama going to give back to his supporters if he can't raise taxes?

So what part of "Just shut up and pay more taxes" are these little people having a problem understanding?

Uno

Leadership /= Doing their job for them. If I was a manager for a company, if my employees didn't want to do their job, do you think it would be my responsibility to do it for them?

Fuck no. You hold their feet to the fire and make them do it.

The American people elected this douchbags to do their jobs - BOTH Democrats and Republicans are caught in an unwinnable war with each other. Either they're going to develop a solution and EACH compromise, or they will feel the effects of their own failure to perform via constituent outrage.

Democrats will be forced to find cuts on their social issues, and Republicans are going to have to give in when it comes to revenue increases. That is simply the way it is going to be.
 

Illusio

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Every American took a 2% pay cut in January and had to adjust. You're telling me the government can't make do with the same cut to their budget?
 

glenn1

Lifer
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Democrats will be forced to find cuts on their social issues, and Republicans are going to have to give in when it comes to revenue increases. That is simply the way it is going to be.

That sounds more like an exercise in wishful thinking than a prediction. With the Bush tax cuts gone, the President and Democrats have no more leverage on anything related to taxes and spending. The GOP not only doesn't have to agree to further "revenue increases," they have the means to extract rollbacks on tax rates in return for spending concessions.
 

MustISO

Lifer
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I'd be all for the sequestration if the first job cuts happened to all the idiots in congress.
 

trenchfoot

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My friend who works for a contractor lost his job because the entire program with the navy got slashed. He along with 40 people on last Wednesday. Apparently, his company is getting rid of 2% of their workforce due to military cuts. Sound like a REAL IMMEDIATE IMPACT to me.

See how easy your reply was dissed and dismissed when you provided direct evidence that the sequester had an immediate impact? Well, here in Hawaii hundreds of workers just got their layoff and furlough notices too. And that's just for starters. But no big deal huh? Their jobs needed cutting anyway? Really? How easy it is to pooh pooh the loss of your friend's and other's jobs when it not THEIR OWN jobs being cut/furloughed.

One has to wonder why that only the conservatives in this thread seem to be jumping all over your post. One also has to wonder about the folks in this thread who are defending their Repub leaders how they'd feel if THEY were directly and immediately affected from having THEIR jobs getting cut because of the political brinksmanship that's going on at present. Would they still feel exactly how they've expressed themselves in response to your post? Just asking.
 
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dbk

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See how easy your reply was dissed and dismissed when you provided direct evidence that the sequester had an immediate impact? Well, here in Hawaii hundreds of workers just got their layoff and furlough notices too. And that's just for starters. But no big deal huh? Their jobs needed cutting anyway? Really? How easy it is to pooh pooh the loss of your friend's and other's jobs when it not THEIR OWN jobs being cut/furloughed.

One has to wonder why that only the conservatives in this thread seem to be jumping all over your post. One also has to wonder about the folks in this thread who are defending their Repub leaders how they'd feel if THEY were directly and immediately affected from having THEIR jobs getting cut because of the political brinksmanship that's going on at present. Would they still feel exactly how they've expressed themselves in response to your post? Just asking.

I'm not really sure if what he was doing related to "wasteful military spending".. all i know is that he, along with other people, lost their jobs because of the sequestration. I mean, if a program gets cut, does that mean it wasn't necessary or it was wasteful spending? I'm not sure if I can just make that assumption. The military, along with the rest of the government had to make cuts across the board. It's not like there was any wiggle room to perform an analysis of the various programs within the military on what to cut, right? They were force to make cuts because Congress couldn't come up with anything. That's the way I'm looking at it.
 

werepossum

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I'm not really sure if what he was doing related to "wasteful military spending".. all i know is that he, along with other people, lost their jobs because of the sequestration. I mean, if a program gets cut, does that mean it wasn't necessary or it was wasteful spending? I'm not sure if I can just make that assumption. The military, along with the rest of the government had to make cuts across the board. It's not like there was any wiggle room to perform an analysis of the various programs within the military on what to cut, right? They were force to make cuts because Congress couldn't come up with anything. That's the way I'm looking at it.
You need to look at how many military projects get cut. Hint - it's most of them in war time. Unfortunately we don't fund wars separately, so much of the cost of deploying and maintaining troops and equipment must come from canceled projects. This is why we have troops flying planes and operating armored vehicles that are commonly older than are they and in some cases older than are their parents.

In addition to that, it's a certainty that any compromise plan to avoid or end sequestration is going to include significant cuts to our defense budget, so your friend and many like him are going to lose their jobs regardless of whether Congress ever manages to pull its two heads from its collective ass. As to "wiggle room to perform an analysis of the various programs", this absolutely happens. The military makes contingency plans for its contingency plans, and one constant is the need to decide which projects get axed at certain levels of funding.
 

boomerang

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See how easy your reply was dissed and dismissed when you provided direct evidence that the sequester had an immediate impact? Well, here in Hawaii hundreds of workers just got their layoff and furlough notices too. And that's just for starters. But no big deal huh? Their jobs needed cutting anyway? Really? How easy it is to pooh pooh the loss of your friend's and other's jobs when it not THEIR OWN jobs being cut/furloughed.

One has to wonder why that only the conservatives in this thread seem to be jumping all over your post. One also has to wonder about the folks in this thread who are defending their Repub leaders how they'd feel if THEY were directly and immediately affected from having THEIR jobs getting cut because of the political brinksmanship that's going on at present. Would they still feel exactly how they've expressed themselves in response to your post? Just asking.
So, were you for cuts in military spending before you were against cuts in military spending?
 

LumbergTech

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I actually support the broad cut. It is what we need. Take your fuckin medicine instead of prolonging it.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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So, were you for cuts in military spending before you were against cuts in military spending?

No way. For one thing, I have too many friends and relatives that are/were holding defense related jobs both in the private and public sector. I personally benefited from being in the military myself, along with that tidy little military retirement pension I'm collecting from you, the taxpayer.

Doesn't make sense for me to bite the hand that feeds me.
 

IGBT

Lifer
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We had the Great Depression.
Then we had the Great Recession.
Now, with the obama, we have the
Great Delusion.. and psychotic liar trying to distance him self from his own policies. The stink is on the obama.
 

umbrella39

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Anyone who thought the effects would be felt immediately is an idiot. He's just explaining this to the average American idiot.

I think he was explaining it to a few in this thread then...
 
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umbrella39

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We had the Great Depression.
Then we had the Great Recession.
Now, with the obama, we have the
Great Delusion.. and psychotic liar trying to distance him self from his own policies. The stink is on the obama.

That stink you smell is just your upper lip again. Try and keep your head out of your ass and perhaps the smell goes away.
 
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Zorkorist

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This is close to how embarrasing it was when we got our debt downgraded. Obama, is happy to lead, er, take this charge.

Obama: I lead when we got our debt downgraded
Obama: I lead when Sequestration went into effect.

-John
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
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This is close to how embarrasing it was when we got our debt downgraded. Obama, is happy to lead, er, take this charge.

Obama: I lead when we got our debt downgraded
Obama: I lead when Sequestration went into effect.

-John

You are so fucking clueless!


Just because you idiots say Obama is a dictator doesn't make it so.
 

monovillage

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You are so fucking clueless!


Just because you idiots say Obama is a dictator doesn't make it so.

Did you see the question that the CNN Chief White House correspondent Jessica Yellin asked Obama?

One of a few hundred of America's most elite, most select, most influential journalists actually asked Obama ""First of all couldn't you just have them down here and refuse to let them leave the room until you have a deal?" Amazing! Stunning in it's awesome fucking stupidity. To ask the President a question like that in public? She should be out of a job.

His reply?
"Jessica, I am not a dictator, I'm the president," he said while speaking to reporters in the White House Press Briefing Room. "Ultimately, if Mitch McConnell or John Boehner say we need to go to catch a plane, I can't have Secret Service block the doorway."

"I know that this has been some of the conventional wisdom that's been floating around Washington, and that somehow&#8211;even though most people agree that I'm being reasonable, that most people agree I'm presenting a fair deal&#8211;the fact that they don't take it means that somehow I should do a Jedi mind-meld with these folks and convince them to do what's right," he added.

Obama went on to say that those leaders are elected and have their own responsibilities. For his part, the president said he the best he can do is "make the best possible case for why we need to do the right thing" and "speak to the American people about the consequences of the decisions that Congress is making or the lack of the decision-making by Congress."

"But ultimately it's a choice they make, and this idea that somehow there's a secret formula or secret sauce to get speaker Boehner or Mitch McConnell to say 'You know what Mr. President, you're right'...I think if there was a secret way to do that, I would have tried it. I would have done it."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/01/obama-i-am-not-a-dictator-im-the-president/


We're so fucked.
 
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