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Cairo College Graduation 1959
that guy in the back standing at an angle with sunglasses looks like a terrorist.
Cairo College Graduation 1959
We all know that the Zionist state of Israel will not survive in the Midle East, but then... where would they go?.........the US? Oi Vey I sure as hell hope not.....even having one of them here is one to many.
QFT! Returning to the 1967 borders, with land exchanges for practical implimentation and enforcement, with mutual pledges of respect for the other's right to exist, was the policy of George Bush, Sr. and Bill Clinton's administrations, as well.
It's time for Israel to return to being the grownup in the room.
Its sad you keep coming here defending the actions terrorists.
The "religion of peace" attacked Israel. Israel defended itself. Now the "religion of peace" wants a do over - all while it continues to launch rockets at civilians.
Tough luck.
Maybe the Palestinians will stop opting to be lead by a terrorist organization but until then, the terrorist will continue to terrorize and Israel will continue to defend itself.
Yeah eventually. Not in your lifetime tho. Frankly most scholars agree there is somewhat of a regression since the 20th century.
Graphically.
Cairo College Graduation 1959
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In 1967, Israel engaged in what's represented as a "pre-emptive" attack against Egypt and Syria during rising tensions. They were the actual aggressors.
Don't let facts interfere with the dissemination of propaganda, however.
What is this Israeli shit, Hamas does not recognize Israel and in return Israel does not recognize Hamas either.
In the grand scheme of things a pissing contest dead even, Hamas is a reality and so so is Israel.
Why should Israeli denial take precedent over Hamas denial?
Especially given the fact, that is we get to a Palestinian State, Hamas and Fatah as a joint unity government will have to recognize the Israeli right to exist and in turn Israel will have to recognize the rights of the joint Palestinian government to exist.
Other interesting facts.Incorrect. In 1967, Israel engaged in what's represented as a "pre-emptive" attack against Egypt and Syria during rising tensions. They were the actual aggressors.
Don't let facts interfere with the dissemination of propaganda, however.
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QFT! Returning to the 1967 borders, with land exchanges for practical implimentation and enforcement, with mutual pledges of respect for the other's right to exist, was the policy of George Bush, Sr. and Bill Clinton's administrations, as well.
It's time for Israel to return to being the grownup in the room.
The time is over.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Man this topic is full of so much BS its unreal. First off the Israel State deal was brokered in the early 1900's The Britts made a Deal with Rothchild to give Israel a nation . It just didn't happen until 47 . But the deal between the britts and rothschild was made way before WWII lol at you learned people . I personally don't care one way or the other whats done is dome . I just wish the American native endians would demand there own country . Get Russia or China suppling them weapons to retake what is rightfully theirs . How many Americans are willing to pack up and leave because its the right thing to do . The American indians had it right from the beginning the pale face speak with forked tung , Something ever white man knows in his heart to be true but lack the moral fortitude to do whats right. On the spoils of War I believe history sets the precedent for such . I see many peeps here who are genuinely prevaricate in this thread . Completely overlooking the Fact that Israel(THE STATE) was in genocide for 2,000 years . That wasn't enough tho the jewish people themselves had to be genocide,
Ya their bitter and don't trust the rest of the world . I must say they have a point.
Point Is Americans Have zero right to place judgement on any nation after the genocide of Native American tribes and nations. Every American Indian deserves much more in the way of payments for stolen lands , Pay up or Shut up. Your true ignorance and lack of morals is showing clearly.
You didn't actually deny what I offered, did you? -- I did NOT need to deny anything you said! We all know that the Arabs had already started preparing too attack Israel......
Israel was justified and all the fact prove they were justified in launching a pre-emptive or defensive attack!
It was Israel who actually started shooting in 1967, and in 1956 before that. --No it was the actions of the arabs that forced Israel to react swifly!
As part of Egyptian President Nasser's nationalist agenda, he took control of the Suez Canal zone away from the British and French companies which owned it. At the same time, as part of his ongoing struggle with Israel, Egyptian forces blocked the Straits of Tiran, the narrow waterway that is Israel's only outlet to the Red Sea. Israel and Egypt had clashed repeatedly since their 1948 war as Egypt allowed and encouraged groups of Palestinian fighters to attack Israel from Egyptian territory. In response, Israeli forces constantly made cross-border raids in retaliation. Britain and France, both of whom were in the process of losing their centuries-old empires, decided on a strategy straight out of their 19th Century Imperial histories. This plan led to a joint invasion and occupation of the Suez Canal zone by Britain and France. This was meant to reassert control of this vital waterway to the British and French companies stung by Nasser's bold nationalization. At France's suggestion, planning was coordinated with Israel, a fact which all three nations denied for years afterwards.
On October 29, 1956, Israeli troops invaded Egypt's Sinai Peninsula and quickly overcame opposition as they raced for Suez. The next day, Britain and France, following their part of the script, offered to temporarily occupy the Canal Zone and suggested a 10 mile buffer on either side which would separate the Egyptian forces from the Israelis. Nasser of course refused, and on October 31, Egypt was attacked and invaded by the military forces of Britain and France. In response to these developments, the Soviet Union, which at the time was ruthlessly suppressing an anti-Communist uprising in Hungary, threatened to intervene on Egypt's behalf. President Eisenhower of the United States pressured Britain, France and Israel into agreeing to a cease-fire and eventual withdrawal from Egypt. The United States, caught by surprise by the dual invasions, was more concerned with the Soviet war in Hungary and the Cold War than with Britain and France's dealings involving Suez. The last thing President Eisenhower wanted was a wider war over Suez. The war itself lasted for only a week, and invading forces were withdrawn within the month. As a result, Egypt now firmly aligned herself with the Soviet Union, which armed Egypt and other Arab nations for the continuing struggle against Israel.
Is revisionist history really necessary? Do you need lies to justify your position?
Revisionist hardly but to try to explain away what actually happenned in 1956 and 67 with one sentence is absurd and stoopid and dumb and idiotic!!
"May have" CC? I figure if the Arabs were ready to attack, the Israelis wouldn't have caught them flat-footed... when they attacked first.-- again you are now telling falsehoods and using warped logic to defend your indefensible position. The Arabs were totally ready to attack but they thought Israel had no clue what was happenning did not count on Israel. The assinine thing about your comments is that the real facts show that the Arabs were ready to attack.
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You didn't actually deny what I offered, did you?
Is revisionist history really necessary? Do you need lies to justify your position?
JEDIYoda makes many claims he can't back up. If you call him out too many time he will cry to the mods.
LOL at Jhhnn. IS he now . Beings all your fates are sealed it matters not any longer . But for you non-believers heres some ammo and shits and giggles for your pleasure . Unless you watch part 2 the joke will be wasted on you . Laughing aloud is a good thing depending on what you laugh at. I to am laughing but not with you but at you .
Enjoy the comedy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPtBQlToqV4&feature=related
As I said...there were many factors and one word sums them all up and it is called survival.So you confirmed that Israel attacked first in 1956 and 1967. Was that really so hard?
JEDIYoda makes many claims he can't back up. If you call him out too many time he will cry to the mods.