I'm equally speaking for them.
It's not like they are a lost cause.
They are human, and will come around.
OBV.
-John
It's not like they are a lost cause.
They are human, and will come around.
OBV.
-John
You understand, Zebo... that just like in America, where "cough" we all go to Church on Sunday, that in a Muslim world one puts on pretences of being Religious, or Muslim.
There are some strong men that will wake up some day and lead their countries into the future, instead of relying on Gods of the past.
-John
In fact, The ONLY realistic path to peace, and it has to include practical, enforceable borders defining viable living space and mutual, verifiable security for both Israel and the Palestinian state.
Tell that to
Egypt
Syria
Jordan
Arab Expeditionary Forces
Iraq
Saudi Arabia
Morocco
Algeria
Libya Libya
Kuwait
Tunisia
Sudan
Palestinian territories PLO
The "religion of peace" had its chance in 1967 and decided to attack Israel. The Muslims have no one to blame except themselves for the loss of territory to Israel.
Then again, we can all act like "progressives" and rewrite history in such a way that Israel is the aggressor.
You understand, Zebo... that just like in America, where "cough" we all go to Church on Sunday, that in a Muslim world one puts on pretences of being Religious, or Muslim.
There are some strong men that will wake up some day and lead their countries into the future, instead of relying on Gods of the past.
-John
The people of the Arab states are rising up, and saying look at me.I've never been one for politically correct articles of faith but look at reality on the ground. Reality is to only real forces, or strongmen, in these countries going through uprisings we'd be shooting in Afghanistan.
Tunisia facing "potential explosion of a form of Islam that does not seem to be moderate at all"
Given a land? It's our land, nobody ever "gave" it to us. And we all know what happened before Israel was founded, six million Jews were murdered, just for being Jews. If you think this is not a good enough reason, and that Jews shouldn't have the option to defend themselves, you are plain ignorant, and racist.
You're all very easy with spilling words here. I bet none of you knows what its like to live in a city under constant missiles attack. I bet none of you knows what it's like to run to shelter as a part of a morning routing after hearing the sirens. I bet none of you knows what it's like to evac a bus full of kids after a missile hit 10 miles near it, and to find out a woman just died behind the bus from shrapnels. Yeah, a nice memory for a 10 year old.
I want you to try and think about living like that for 4 years, and then tell me we should go back to 67' lines, be defenseless, and negotiate with the same terrorists who fired missiles to populated cites.
What is this Israeli shit, Hamas does not recognize Israel and in return Israel does not recognize Hamas either.
In the grand scheme of things a pissing contest dead even, Hamas is a reality and so so is Israel.
Why should Israeli denial take precedent over Hamas denial?
Especially given the fact, that is we get to a Palestinian State, Hamas and Fatah as a joint unity government will have to recognize the Israeli right to exist and in turn Israel will have to recognize the rights of the joint Palestinian government to exist.
< Ennnn-n-n-nh (game show buzzer sound) > Wrong answer. Modern Israel was creation of the United Nations. I'm not going to attempt to post the whole history in decades, centuries or milennea. Here's a pretty good timeline if you have the time to read it.
We all know the "what" you're talking about that happened before Israel is the evil Hitler brought to Germany and throughout Europe. It was NOT something that happend in a then non-existent Israel, and it had even less to do with Jewish versus Arabic and Islamic people.
If you're going to cite historic justifications, at least get your history straight.
So, which bogey man do you want to cry about as an excuse for your own vitriol? You tried Hitler, but he's dead. So's Bin Laden, come to think of it.
Unfortunately, neither is anti-semitism and neither are other forms of bigotry and hatered.
As human beings, each of us can only do our best to overcome the other guy's hatered, but we have no reason to expect to succeed until we are ready and willing to take directly responsibility for dealing with our own.
You can make that argument with many more ethnic groups in this world, but none of them had the chance to be given land. Sucks that you live in a war zone but putting yourselves in an area where everyone hates you doesnt help.
lol, Jews, the "chosen people" are OK with the status quo.
-John
As you are new, you might call me wise.Ugh, I don't know what to call you, but you're talking out of your ass.
And over 50 years later, relative to the cost of not finding a peaceful resolution, are you really so dumb and so mean that you don't want that to change?
Then again, you can act like bigoted idiot and choose to ignore history.
Get over yourself! Nobody said Israel was the aggressor in 1967. They have been aggressors in other actions, and they continue to aggress against Palestinian interests and the interests of peace by building more settlements.
"Those who choose to ignore history are doomed to repeat it."
~ George Santyana