obama is a 'counterfeit president'

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nehalem256

Lifer
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So if Obama is to blame for all this, can someone please explain how he, the president can change it? How could he directly improve each item on the list?

He should probably resign and appoint Vladimir Putin as interim President.

Wall street still in charge of our money.
Banks still to big to bail or fail.
Killing US citizens without due process.
Relations with Russia gone down the drain.
Tensions with China on the rise.
Economy still in the crapper.
Eased trade sanctions on Iran.
Gave weapons to egypt, who knows where they are now.
IS gaining access to anti-aircraft weapons.
Snubbed England over Thatchers funeral.

Putin has no problems with jailing Russian billionaires. http://www.forbes.com/sites/luisakr...l-khodorkovsky-issues-statement-from-germany/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/26/us-russia-lebedev-idUSBRE88P0WB20120926

Your move Wall Street.

As Putin is also President of Russia relations with Russia would improve.

Putin recently negotiated a trade agreement with China


Economy in the crapper? Putin's your man.
 

Jhhnn

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Race is not an issue here.

The issue here is incompetence. However, obama could make up for that incompetence if he tried a little harder. Stop playing golf and take care of these pressing issues.

There was an article released today saying obama delayed the rescue of James Foley for a month. When the rescue did take place James had been moved.

Gee, figure that one out. Sounds to me like obama delayed the rescue just long enough for IS to move Foley.

You're such a fool. Repubs have a majority in the HOR and filibuster power in the Senate. Their primary goal is to Beat Obama! at anything they can.

But he really could do more if he just had the balls, at which point he's a dictator, of course.

People who play golf claim it clears the mind, aids in concentration. Well, at least Ike did. But, go ahead, whine about the guy with the toughest job in the world taking some leisure from what's obviously a pretty leisurely existence on your part.
 

Texashiker

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Maybe because he needed to inform congress and he was just following the rules

After Jefferson made the Louisiana purchase, members of congress started asking if he had the authority to spend the money.

You know what Jefferson said?

Too bad, the deal has already been done.
 

TheSiege

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After Jefferson made the Louisiana purchase, members of congress started asking if he had the authority to spend the money.

You know what Jefferson said?

Too bad, the deal has already been done.

Are you saying the president should circumvent congress if he feels the need to? Like he supposedly did with bowe bergdahl?
 

Texashiker

Lifer
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Are you saying the president should circumvent congress if he feels the need to? Like he supposedly did with bowe bergdahl?

I feel the president can bypass congress when it serves the greater good.

Releasing terrorist in exchange for Bergdahl did not serve the greater good. The American people as a whole did not benefit from the release of Bergdahl.

If any of the people released harm the United States or any of our citizens, then obama indirectly allowed that harm to happen.
 

Jhhnn

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I feel the president can bypass congress when it serves the greater good.

Releasing terrorist in exchange for Bergdahl did not serve the greater good. The American people as a whole did not benefit from the release of Bergdahl.

If any of the people released harm the United States or any of our citizens, then obama indirectly allowed that harm to happen.

You are a mindless talking point addled twit. The release of Bergdahl serves the honor of the United States & the commitment we make to our soldiers.

All Taliban leaders currently in US custody will be released as part of our withdrawal over the next couple of years, anyway.

What time do you start drinking in the morning, anyway? If you don't, maybe you should.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
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Who is the judge of what serves the greater good?

Did the release of Bergdahl benefit you or I? Probably not.

Did the Louisiana purchase benefit us? Yes it did.


You are a mindless talking point addled twit. The release of Bergdahl serves the honor of the United States & the commitment we make to our soldiers.

Those soldiers volunteered. They knew the risk when they signed up.
 

Jhhnn

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If you took like a minute to try to see what he did, you would have some answers and not be perceived as a lazy obama hater.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=obama+administration+achievements

Now, you can do a pros and cons....

Well, yeh, but he's worked really hard to cultivate that image. It's a fashion statement among the faithful, after all, a badge to be worn proudly.

When Engvall says "Here's your sign", they wear it proudly.
 
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Did the release of Bergdahl benefit you or I? Probably not.

Did the Louisiana purchase benefit us? Yes it did.

That's irrelevant. You stated that the President should be allowed to do things without congressional approval when it serves the greater good. I'm curious how you think that "greater good" criteria is to be judged. Is it just whether or not you personally agree with it? That doesn't seem to be a fair representation of the greater good, it's just your opinion. Is it the President's opinion? He's going to think that everything he does represents the greater good. If only we had some sort of elected body on the national stage who was representative of the people to determine whether things were being done for the greater good...
 

Texashiker

Lifer
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That's irrelevant. You stated that the President should be allowed to do things without congressional approval when it serves the greater good. I'm curious how you think that "greater good" criteria is to be judged.

And I answered your question.

Trading terrorist for an alleged deserter does not serve the greater good.
 

Jhhnn

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Did the release of Bergdahl benefit you or I? Probably not.

Did the Louisiana purchase benefit us? Yes it did.




Those soldiers volunteered. They knew the risk when they signed up.

Yeh, I'm sure they knew congress would leave them to rot when captured if it meant being able to beat Obama.

Have you no shame, no sense of decency?
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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Can we add the death of net neutrality to the list?
Obama cronies at the FTC. Mergers and monopolies, etc.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
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Yeh, I'm sure they knew congress would leave them to rot when captured if it meant being able to beat Obama.

Have you no shame, no sense of decency?

I never said leave to rot.

Why do we have seals?
Why do we have rangers?
Why do we have special forces?
Why do we have cia?

And not a single organization could rescue Bergdahl?
 
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And I answered your question.

Trading terrorist for an alleged deserter does not serve the greater good.

So in your opinion, the President should be allowed to operate without Congressional approval if what he is doing specifically meets the greater good as personally defined by you. Well I disagree, because that's not a President, that's a puppet dictator operating under your control, and I find that idea absurd and terrifying.
 

squarecut1

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I mostly agree with the original post. For those who had hopes in Obama (I wasn't one of them, but know people like that), he has been a big dissapointment
 

Texashiker

Lifer
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So in your opinion, the President should be allowed to operate without Congressional approval if what he is doing specifically meets the greater good as personally defined by you. Well I disagree, because that's not a President, that's a puppet dictator operating under your control, and I find that idea absurd and terrifying.

You are being obtuse. You asked a question, I gave you an answer.

You did not like answer, so you proceeded to slobber, drool and foam at the mouth.

Rather than sending in a seal team or special forces, kill the terrorist and rescue Bergdahl, obama trades terrorist.

Tell me freeing terrorist is in the greater good.
 

Vic

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You are being obtuse. You asked a question, I gave you an answer.

You did not like answer, so you proceeded to slobber, drool and foam at the mouth.

Rather than sending in a seal team or special forces, kill the terrorist and rescue Bergdahl, obama trades terrorist.

Tell me freeing terrorist is in the greater good.
So you're saying that the life of an American citizen is worth less than that of a terrorist?
 
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