obama is a 'counterfeit president'

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Zaap

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From my own personal experience, however, conservatives are quite a bit more likely to be racist than liberals.
My experience has been the direct opposite. Liberals are just more likely to blindly accuse everybody else of being racists (witness one of the biggest douchebag leftists on this forum just did so) and to label whatever they disagree with as 'racist'. Then many of them will turn around and practice the age old "racism of low-expectations" against minorities, and reserve vile hatred for those that dare not to "know their role" and live down to it.
 

Texashiker

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My experience has been the direct opposite. Liberals are just more likely to blindly accuse everybody else of being racists (witness one of the biggest douchebag leftists on this forum just did so) and to label whatever they disagree with as 'racist'. Then many of them will turn around and practice the age old "racism of low-expectations" against minorities, and reserve vile hatred for those that dare not to "know their role" and live down to it.

Agreed.

To get to the root of the issue just look at the social agendas promoted by the right and left.

Right - family values, personal responsibility, marriage, work hard, provide for your family, religion (one of the few times I mentioned religion), morals, respect for the law.

Left - no values, no morals, abort your children, avoid responsibility, do not take responsibility because its not your fault, no respect for the law.


The problem with obama he is not even trying. He plays golf,,,,, and that is about it.

If everything obama did is bushes fault, we are in for one heck of a ride for the next decade. If he tried to do something at least he can say he tried.
 

MrPickins

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Then many of them will turn around and practice the age old "racism of low-expectations" against minorities, and reserve vile hatred for those that dare not to "know their role" and live down to it.

I'm not following you here.
 

MrPickins

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Right - family values, personal responsibility, marriage, work hard, provide for your family, religion (one of the few times I mentioned religion), morals, respect for the law.

Left - no values, no morals, abort your children, avoid responsibility, do not take responsibility because its not your fault, no respect for the law.

Seriously?

Sounds more like a caricature of the left, to me.
 

thraashman

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Seriously?

Sounds more like a caricature of the left, to me.

Ah, I see your problem here, you mistakenly seem to think Texashiker should ever be taken seriously. It's ok, many people believe that every human being should have at least one redeeming characteristics. Texashiker, nehalem, michal1980 are some exceptions to that.
 

Jhhnn

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Agreed.

To get to the root of the issue just look at the social agendas promoted by the right and left.

Right - family values, personal responsibility, marriage, work hard, provide for your family, religion (one of the few times I mentioned religion), morals, respect for the law.

Left - no values, no morals, abort your children, avoid responsibility, do not take responsibility because its not your fault, no respect for the law.


The problem with obama he is not even trying. He plays golf,,,,, and that is about it.

If everything obama did is bushes fault, we are in for one heck of a ride for the next decade. If he tried to do something at least he can say he tried.

That's just sad, the result of a great deal of conditioning by the mouthpieces of the Right Wing.

Those positive values are American values, not just conservative values. You've sunk to new depths of tribalism when you claim otherwise.

Abortion, your favorite saw? Liberals want every woman to have birth control services as part of their health plan, thus avoiding the possibility as often as possible. Liberals support that same healthcare insurance for women of means both grand & modest, which helps them to have healthy babies. Liberals support all kinds of programs to help them have healthy children, as well. We will help women have & take care of their babies even if they can't afford it themselves at that point in their lives.

What do conservatives offer up? Platitudes & slut-shaming?
 

Oldgamer

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Princeton professor Cornel West has some stinging words about obama.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-Cornel-West-attacks-onetime-ally-Obama.html




Besides passing the affordable care act that turned millions of people into slaves for the insurance companies, what has obama done that has benefited everyday working people?

Wall street still in charge of our money.
Banks still to big to bail or fail.
Killing US citizens without due process.
Relations with Russia gone down the drain.
Tensions with China on the rise.
Economy still in the crapper.
Eased trade sanctions on Iran.
Gave weapons to egypt, who knows where they are now.
IS gaining access to anti-aircraft weapons.
Snubbed England over Thatchers funeral.

Looks like obama is going to spend the next 2 years playing golf.

Cornell West has been very upset with this President for quite some time, and has ranted more than once on the Bill Maher show when he was a guest. His biggest complaints are summed up right here in his quote:

‘We ended up with a Wall Street presidency, a drone presidency, a national security presidency. The torturers go free. The Wall Street executives go free. The war crimes in the Middle East, especially now in Gaza, the war criminals go free.’

These are by far his biggest beefs with our current POTUS. The term a "counterfeit President" is a bit bewildering as it almost sounds like he is saying he isn't a real President. He is a real President, one whom the majority of American's voted for twice.

But I agree with a lot of things Prof. West says and that is all the things that went haywire with the prior administration seemed to be more magnified with this current POTUS.

I definitely agree with Prof. West on his comments here:

The academic believes that arbitrary police power is one of the problems in Ferguson – and is dismayed that Mr Obama has not stepped forward to tackle it head on.

He said: ‘It has been going on for a long time. The Obama administration has been silent. Completely silent.’

Furthermore, he is incredulous, the interview reveals, that Mr Obama sent a letter of condolence to Robin Williams before sending one to the Michael Brown family.

Mr West believes that Obama has been far too preoccupied with occupying the middle ground instead of championing bold policies.

He added: ‘He doesn't realize that a great leader, a statesperson, doesn't just occupy middle ground. They occupy higher ground or the moral ground or even sometimes the holy ground. But the middle ground is not the place to go if you’re going to show courage and vision.’
 
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Smoblikat

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Princeton professor Cornel West has some stinging words about obama.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-Cornel-West-attacks-onetime-ally-Obama.html




Besides passing the affordable care act that turned millions of people into slaves for the insurance companies, what has obama done that has benefited everyday working people?

Wall street still in charge of our money. Actually the federal reserve is, its a government endorsed private money mint.
Banks still to big to bail or fail. Yup
Killing US citizens without due process. Yup
Relations with Russia gone down the drain. We have been tense with russia since before he was born, I doubt he had a particularly large role in creating our current situation.
Tensions with China on the rise. Again, I dont blame specifically him at all.
Economy still in the crapper. Yes, it STILL is, but he didnt cause the downward spiral.
Eased trade sanctions on Iran. Dont know enough about this one.
Gave weapons to egypt, who knows where they are now. Not just egypt, remember the fast and furious scandal?
IS gaining access to anti-aircraft weapons. ?
Snubbed England over Thatchers funeral. Ya, that was a really bad move.

Looks like obama is going to spend the next 2 years playing golf.

Retort in bold.
 

IGBT

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he is the leader of an authoritarian.. post constitution agenda.
 

Fern

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Maybe because he needed to inform congress and he was just following the rules

Why would Congress need to be informed 30 days ahead of time before a special forces team could be deployed?

Fern
 

TerryMathews

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Why would Congress need to be informed 30 days ahead of time before a special forces team could be deployed?

Fern
I'm assuming they're conflating the prisoner swap with this situation.

Of course, the president doesn't have a 30 day reporting requirement prior to deploying assets. That would be completely contrary to WPA (Thanks LBJ!)
 

Fern

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I'm assuming they're conflating the prisoner swap with this situation.

Of course, the president doesn't have a 30 day reporting requirement prior to deploying assets. That would be completely contrary to WPA (Thanks LBJ!)

Well, yeah, that's what it appears to be.

Obama didn't notify Congress 30 days before SEAL Team 6 went after UBL.

My understanding is that the 30 days notification only applies to the release of GITMO prisoners, not prisoner swaps in general.

Fern
 
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UberNeuman

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A liberal professor dislikes a Republican President? Say it ain't so!

\sing me a new song, derp-troopers...
 
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A liberal professor dislikes a Republican President? Say it ain't so!

\sing me a new song, derp-troopers...

Wait, you're claiming that the commie, Nazi, Muslim, atheist, socialist, fascist, criminal mastermind, incompetent doofus is also a Republican?

Harsh, man!
 

squarecut1

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A liberal professor dislikes a Republican President? Say it ain't so!

\sing me a new song, derp-troopers...
Many liberals knew even before he became President that the guy is a Republican. His track record in office, exception of ACA, has shown that
 

TerryMathews

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A liberal professor dislikes a Republican President? Say it ain't so!

\sing me a new song, derp-troopers...
God damn that's a new spin on it.

First Obamacare was really a Republican plan. Now Obama is really a Republican president.

If y'all didn't like him so much you shouldn't have elected him twice. I assure you I didn't.
 

squarecut1

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God damn that's a new spin on it.

First Obamacare was really a Republican plan. Now Obama is really a Republican president.

If y'all didn't like him so much you shouldn't have elected him twice. I assure you I didn't.
It is neither a spin nor new.
 

Jhhnn

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Well, yeah, that's what it appears to be.

Obama didn't notify Congress 30 days before SEAL Team 6 went after UBL.

My understanding is that the 30 days notification only applies to the release of GITMO prisoners, not prisoner swaps in general.

Fern

Correct.

The only thing that Congressional Repubs could have done with the notification was to try & spoil the deal for Bergdahl. Few are willing to come right out & say it, obviously, because it would reveal an enormous amount of doublespeak wrt supporting the troops. Then blame Obama for "failure!", obviously.

Obama & Hagel trumped that, brought Bergdahl home, flipped off congressional Repubs going by.

Repubs are currently dancing around that like it's not there, going on about Obama the lawbreaker & so forth. They'll really need to nut up if they want to do more than whine. If they do, it'll confirm the idea that they have more balls than brains.

The Word from the White House? "Bring it, fools."

Repubs would get eaten alive in the court of public opinion, rightfully so.
 

Zaap

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God damn that's a new spin on it.

First Obamacare was really a Republican plan. Now Obama is really a Republican president.

It is pretty hilarious how Dims will scream, whine, bend and grab ankles for something/someone like the suck-ups many of them are, but the instant their rotten ideas/candidates are revealed as the same ol' useless bullshit then it's instantaneously pawned off on Republicans, without fail.
 
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