That money goes primarily to advertising/marketing. You think anyone stands a chance of getting elected on the national stage these days without advertising/marketing?
That money goes primarily to advertising/marketing. You think anyone stands a chance of getting elected on the national stage these days without advertising/marketing?So he had to take in $275M more than Romney to win? Buy the election, you say?
O could have just relied on the media outlets other than Fox.That money goes primarily to advertising/marketing. You think anyone stands a chance of getting elected on the national stage these days without advertising/marketing?
O could have just relied on the media outlets other than Fox.
"WAAAH VOTER ID IS OPPRESSIVE AND DISENFRANCHISING TO THE POOR!!!!!!111!!!"
But now apparently all those poor and elderly people who can't possibly get IDs are going to shamble down to the polls.
If you can't see the logical disconnect, I can't help you.
Does it do tricks?
And you think the middle or left would actually go for real finance reform/accountability? None of them want it.
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Either way they aren't elected. When the left held congress and the WH, why didn't they pass finance reforms? They like the $$ just as well as the right.
I think the goal of most of the elected is to keep their power and to line their pockets as much $$ as possible. If the country happens to benefit from their actions, great but that's secondary for them. Yeah, I'm a "glass is 3/4 empty" kind of guy.
No need but this is where I tell you the simple answer to "BIG money" is campaign finance reform. Never happen though.Is this where you tell us about the LMSM? (Liberal Main Stream Media)
Voter ID is one extra bit of effort required to vote. We are talking about incentives for voting and penalties for not voting. If you can't see how they are polar opposites, I can't help you.
They mark your name off the list at the polling place. Same as today.Without an ID; how will the system know that you actually did vote? ...
Without an ID; how will the system know that you actually did vote?
If there is an incentive and/or verification; what should be the mechanism to ensure that the incentive goes to the voter.
Or just a checkbox on some (tax?) form
And maybe if you would stop and think for a moment, you'd realize that Democrats are no more your friend than Republicans are.
Hoist on your own petard, but too belligerent to acknowledge your error. Now you're doubling down, moving the goal posts to duhvert from your nonsensical claims. Fail.
Aside from the fact I already said I don't support mandatory voting, your duhversion above is just as dumb as your earlier post. Getting to the polls is much easier than getting an ID. There are all sorts of groups who will take you to the polls, and you always have the option of filing an absentee ballot. Moreover, IF voting was mandated, we would have to substantially change our voting processes to accommodate the flood of new voters. This would have to include more provisions for those with limited mobility.
But let's go back to your original screech that mandatory voting would dictate IDs and "massive privacy and disenfranchisement." Still nonsense.
If I vote or have my friend vote for me, what is the difference?You're better than this Bowfinger, but you're too invested in your party to see it.
So these groups that will gladly drive millions of poor and elderly people to the polls are somehow incapable of driving someone to get a free ID if they want to vote right now? Mind you, I only support voter ID if it's free.
As for the process of voting, if people can't bother to get off the arse right now to vote and the only thing that will make them do it is paying them to do it or fining them if they don't, how do you avoid those uninterested "voters" just telling their friend to vote for them?
Surely you can see that this idea has some massive flaws unless you institute the very things that Democrats already squawk about.
How are these illegals registering to vote?Mandatory...without IDs of course! Can't keep the fresh illegals, dead and imprisoned from voting!
You're better than this Bowfinger, but you're too invested in your party to see it.
So these groups that will gladly drive millions of poor and elderly people to the polls are somehow incapable of driving someone to get a free ID if they want to vote right now? Mind you, I only support voter ID if it's free.
As for the process of voting, if people can't bother to get off the arse right now to vote and the only thing that will make them do it is paying them to do it or fining them if they don't, how do you avoid those uninterested "voters" just telling their friend to vote for them?
Surely you can see that this idea has some massive flaws unless you institute the very things that Democrats already squawk about.
Edit: Oh look, Australia has identifying info on each ballot. http://www.aec.gov.au/faqs/voting_australia.htm
System is corrupt...
Forcing 'the little people' to participate in a corrupt system isn't a fix...
Uno
My party is independent. I do find the Democratic party to be mostly less nakedly repugnant than the "modern" Republican party -- especially since the rise of the Tea Party and the American Taliban in the GOP -- but I'm not a fan of either party.You're better than this Bowfinger, but you're too invested in your party to see it.
Yes, and that isn't speculation. It is the reality today. Both parties and lots of groups have active efforts to take people to the polls. I'm aware of only a handful of projects to provide similar services to help people get the documents and obtain state IDs. Again, reality.So these groups that will gladly drive millions of poor and elderly people to the polls are somehow incapable of driving someone to get a free ID if they want to vote right now? Mind you, I only support voter ID if it's free.
What part of, "I don't support mandatory voting" is too hard for you? I was simply refuting your claim that mandatory voting would dictate IDs and "massive privacy and disenfranchisement." It's still nonsense; we already keep track of who has and has not voted. Are you big enough to step up and admit that was wrong, or are you just going to keep changing the subject?As for the process of voting, if people can't bother to get off the arse right now to vote and the only thing that will make them do it is paying them to do it or fining them if they don't, how do you avoid those uninterested "voters" just telling their friend to vote for them?
Surely you can see that this idea has some massive flaws unless you institute the very things that Democrats already squawk about.
We aren't Australia.Edit: Oh look, Australia has identifying info on each ballot. http://www.aec.gov.au/faqs/voting_australia.htm
My party is independent. I do find the Democratic party to be mostly less nakedly repugnant than the "modern" Republican party -- especially since the rise of the Tea Party and the American Taliban in the GOP -- but I'm not a fan of either party.
Yes, and that isn't speculation. It is the reality today. Both parties and lots of groups have active efforts to take people to the polls. I'm aware of only a handful of projects to provide similar services to help people get the documents and obtain state IDs. Again, reality.
What part of, "I don't support mandatory voting" is too hard for you? I was simply refuting your claim that mandatory voting would dictate IDs and "massive privacy and disenfranchisement." It's still nonsense; we already keep track of who has and has not voted. Are you big enough to step up and admit that was wrong, or are you just going to keep changing the subject?
We aren't Australia.
Not if it is an incentive rather than a penalty.Won't happen. Its pretty much a poor tax. Lower income families make up the majority of people that do not vote. I don't see how dems can be for this, but not for the license requirement. Both put a burden on the poor who may not have the means to "travel" as they say.
Frankly, I'd find it hilarious if we instituted mandatory voting. The only thing worse than a two party system is a one party system. I'd be immensely amused to watch the US crash and burn following mandatory voting and an unassailable Democrat majority.
I think we're in enough debt already.Not if it is an incentive rather than a penalty.
Not if it is an incentive rather than a penalty.