Obama poised to cede US soveriegnty to the UN....

[AAjax]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: KDOG
How do you feel about one world communist government. Better get used to it...

NWO ftl

If it pisses Republicans off then it's a good thing :thumbsup:

Ah, governance out of spite. What good can come of this?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
he must be credible, with that reassuring and pleasant accent. What a smart rational guy.

I liked his suit. Just slightly off center enough of normal clothes wearing to removal any plausible denial that he is a whacko.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Is sovereignty really that important in this day and age?

Are you seriously asking? Yes, because the more power is concentrated at the hands of the few, the less voice you have as an individual over the policies affecting your life. Just look at the EU for example. What do the middle class and working class citizens have to gain from subjugating themselves to the unelected, unaccountable dictatorship? When the ruling elite say crap like "streamlining the decision process," it really means "less opportunity for those pesky peasants to interfere with our agenda."

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: AAjax

Originally posted by: Nebor
Is sovereignty really that important in this day and age?

The right of the people to self govern is paramount. So, yes.

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: Nebor
Is sovereignty really that important in this day and age?

Are you seriously asking? Yes, because the more power is concentrated at the hands of the few, the less voice you have as an individual over the policies affecting your life. Just look at the EU for example. What do the middle class and working class citizens have to gain from subjugating themselves to the unelected, unaccountable dictatorship? When the ruling elite say crap like "streamlining the decision process," it really means "less opportunity for those pesky peasants to interfere with our agenda."

er, tap tap fellas.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: KDOG

How do you feel about one world communist government. Better get used to it...

I feel you're so full of fear mongering, jingoistic shit, my ass is jealous. :| :thumbsdown:

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
"i'm simply pointing out something i believe to be wrong in your statement, which is that the left has all these altruistic goals. the truth is simply that they do not. they want power just as much as the right. how they go about achieving that goal may be different, but that doesn't change what the goal is."

All you're pointing out is that you have a craving for power and are motivated by it. This is called projection. You see everybody else as what you are and don't want to see about yourself.

A thief fears people will steal from him. A liar thinks everything is a lie. A gambler see life as a crap shoot, etc. Projection is a curse, but it is also a tool. It is the mirror by which you find out who you are. It is the means by which you discover in your contempt for others how you hate yourself. You have it all wrong about power. It is in self knowledge there's real power, because without it you are only a bot and a mechanical being.

oddly enough MB, you are both right and wrong. do i want power? sure, i do. we all do. just like i want lots of money, nice cars, a nice house, and a beautiful spouse. you know, kind of like everyone else. however, there is a lot of responsibility associated with power that i don't think i'm ready for.

sometimes you really just have to take words at face value. i don't hate everything. and while i don't like some aspects of myself, i don't hate myself. not entirely anyway.

whether i may be projecting or not does not change the fact that both the left and right want power and achieve it by their own means.

Please don't give me the oddly I'm right business. I am right beyond your wildest imaginings. And I have no interest in power whatsoever. Power if for the ego and the ego is death. My point is that while you project unconsciously, unaware that you do, your observations, like the one that everybody wants the things you listed, will be worthless. You can't see others as they are while projecting. And don't forget:

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall
As soon as he marries her, then she starts
Doin' the things that will break his heart

But if you make an ugly woman your wife
You'll be happy for the rest of your life
An ugly woman cooks your meals on time
An she'll always give you peace of mind

Don't't let your friends say you have no taste
Go ahead and marry anyway
Though her face is ugly and her eyes don't match
Take it from me, she's a better catch

all bow to the infinitely wise and benevolent moonbeam :roll::roll::roll:

 

[OrByte]

SO,

where do I turn in my social security card?