Obama press conference thread

[miniMUNCH]

Originally posted by: JKing106

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: cubby1223
This forum continues to be nothing but a cesspool of I.Q. draining sludge.

The only argument the resident liberals can *ever* come up with is "The choice is either blind faith in Obama & Pelosi, or it's supporting corporate greed - there are no other options!!!!"

You're wrong.

Yet you idiots continue to spew your crap and never come up with anything substantial.

You're complaining about this place being a 'cesspool of I.Q. draining sludge', and then you create a hilariously obvious straw man out of the position of those you disagree with and use it to call people names.

Physician, heal thyself.

Well there are a lot statements in P&N threads that boil down to this sentiment: "You don't like this current UHC bill?! You must be a right wing, corporate-ball-sucking, neocon idiot!!"

And that gets a bit old...

Edit: I will say this: read the bill... or at least first couple hundred pages which contains most of the meat of the bill and certainly enough to get a healthy idea of the bill. The bill provides a general framework for UHC only and a lot of important 'details' to be figured out later by a 'comissioner' that the POTUS gets to appoint. I don't like "we'll figure it all out and insert numbers/criteria later"... not good. The bill reeks of "I don't know what numbers and criteria for this or that will actually work but whatever they are we'll figure them out later and use those numbers/criteria/ rules. Seriously... you don't design anything "that is actually supposed to work" that way. I can honestly say I have no idea what the UHC bill will actually deliver and what is more... it seems evident that what UHC "IS" could change from POTUS to POTUS due to the appointed commissioner's huge influence in the system... i don't like that either. The POTUS already has far too many powers... way more than intended in the constitution as penned and signed. The POTUS doesn't need to have UHC in a choke hold.

Until you learn to use a period correctly, and not an ellipsis, then I'm not reading a damn thing you write. Buy a grammar book, and do it fucking right.

I beg your pardon. I prefer to write in pseudo conversational style on internet forums. I have written literally thousands of pages of documents and reports and enjoy not having to check my grammar or correct typo's.

But here you go:

Read the bill or at least first couple hundred pages which contains most of the meat of the bill and is certainly enough to get a healthy idea of the bill. The bill provides a general framework for UHC only and a lot of important 'details' to be figured out later by a 'comissioner', whom the POTUS gets to appoint.

I don't like the "we'll figure it all out and insert numbers/criteria later". This is not good. It shows, to me, that they have not done adequate research and analysis to design an optimal system The bill reeks of "I don't know what numbers and criteria for this or that will actually work but whatever they are we'll figure them out later and use those numbers/criteria/rules. To me this bill is a strong reach at best.

I can honestly say I have no idea what the UHC bill will actually deliver with respect to several kep aspects of the UHC system. Maybe some of the people who authored this do but I sure don't.

What is more; It seems evident to me that what UHC "IS" could change from POTUS to POTUS due to the appointed commissioner's huge influence in the system. I don't like that aspect either. The POTUS already has far too many powers (way more than intended in the constitution as penned and signed). The POTUS doesn't need to have UHC in a choke hold.


What now, Holmes?:

 

[Budmantom]

Another episode of the Obama show, that man can lie like no other.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: MyThirdEye
I'm still confused on how free/lowered healthcare will lower the national debt? I didn't listen to the whole thing, but I caught a good chunk of his session.

Quality > Quantity IMO

The theory is it will work in the same fashion as the stimulus money has created jobs.... mission accomplished.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: MyThirdEye
I'm still confused on how free/lowered healthcare will lower the national debt? I didn't listen to the whole thing, but I caught a good chunk of his session.

Quality > Quantity IMO

The theory is it will work in the same fashion as the stimulus money has created jobs.... mission accomplished.

(C) 2003 - G.W. Bush Company Inc.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: MyThirdEye
I'm still confused on how free/lowered healthcare will lower the national debt? I didn't listen to the whole thing, but I caught a good chunk of his session.

Quality > Quantity IMO

The theory is it will work in the same fashion as the stimulus money has created jobs.... mission accomplished.

Of course you realize that the reason more jobs aren't being created is that far too much of the "stimulus" was directed towards tax cuts rather than real stimulus spending. This was done to get R support, and doesn't do shit for jobs.

But you don't realize, because you're a hack.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: cubby1223
This forum continues to be nothing but a cesspool of I.Q. draining sludge.

The only argument the resident liberals can *ever* come up with is "The choice is either blind faith in Obama & Pelosi, or it's supporting corporate greed - there are no other options!!!!"

You're wrong.

Yet you idiots continue to spew your crap and never come up with anything substantial.

You're complaining about this place being a 'cesspool of I.Q. draining sludge', and then you create a hilariously obvious straw man out of the position of those you disagree with and use it to call people names.

Physician, heal thyself.

It's rather appropriate the you mention "cesspool of I.Q. draining sludge" & "blind faith in Obama & Pelosi" and eskimospy speak up.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: MyThirdEye
I'm still confused on how free/lowered healthcare will lower the national debt? I didn't listen to the whole thing, but I caught a good chunk of his session.

Quality > Quantity IMO

The theory is it will work in the same fashion as the stimulus money has created jobs.... mission accomplished.

Of course you realize that the reason more jobs aren't being created is that far too much of the "stimulus" was directed towards tax cuts rather than real stimulus spending. This was done to get R support, and doesn't do shit for jobs.

But you don't realize, because you're a hack.

Don't you have an acorn rally to get to?

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Watch his poll numbers shoot up tomorrow.

:thumbsup:

How is that working out for you? Looks like the worst yet.



http://www.gallup.com/poll/113...bama-Job-Approval.aspx

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Watch his poll numbers shoot up tomorrow.

:thumbsup:

How is that working out for you? Looks like the worst yet.



http://www.gallup.com/poll/113...bama-Job-Approval.aspx

Before the inevitable...

"Those polls are completely inaccurate, everybody loves the obama."

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Watch his poll numbers shoot up tomorrow.

:thumbsup:

How is that working out for you? Looks like the worst yet.



http://www.gallup.com/poll/113...bama-Job-Approval.aspx

Before the inevitable...

"Those polls are completely inaccurate, everybody loves the obama."

No, when the polls break 60%, he'll bump my approval thread to make fun of me. When he makes a call like the above that exposes him for the ignorant hack that he is, he runs away.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: spidey07
Not even 60 seconds and two "crisis"

Thank god I have a full bar at home....

That explains more than you meant to. Hint - 'teleprompter' attacks make you look like an idiot.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: spidey07
Admits to rationing care and government control of care - "must not be the most expensive treatment, just the best"

There he goes blaming more Republicans.

There you go not blaiming Republicans. Whici of you is right?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: spidey07
Not even 60 seconds and two "crisis"

Thank god I have a full bar at home....

That explains more than you meant to. Hint - 'teleprompter' attacks make you look like an idiot.

Coming from a delusional partisan hack such as yourself, that is a compliment.

HINT: Have a sense of humor, as I am joking and poke just as much fun of idiot Republicans as well.

 

[Craig234]

Is 'this is not your blog' a reason for locking threads or not?

Spidey:

Should be interesting. Drink when he says "crisis" or "public option" or "scared".

Not even 60 seconds and two "crisis"

Here goes the bush blaming and the lie of "tax cuts for the rich"

Admits to rationing care and government control of care - "must not be the most expensive treatment, just the best"

And here come the anecdotal stories. You can basically predict what he's going to say.

"Let's not talk about how to pay for it"

bwahahhhahahah!

"let's screw those evil rich people by removing their deductions!"

*those deductions fund a crapload of our hospitals

"I haven't been blaming republicans"

bullshit president - did you not just recall what you just said?

We just can't afford what we're doing right now"

Really pres? And you want to tackle that with more debt/deficit spending? He honestly believes, I think, that this is not going to cost money.

He's off teleprompter now, you must be on a big delay.

I'm watching his body language and his eyes. The constant eye blinking is the sign of somebody who is lieing and is unsure of his statements.

So you noticed he had to look down to call on a reporter each time? "oh yes, you may ask a question...it's right here on my list!"

Yeah, those record profits!

Look you bastard - the business of business is to make more money. Do you know what a profit margin is Mr. President, do you know what gross revenue is Mr. President? Any company will have record profits year over year otherwise they will go out of business.

heh, he's balking on if congress or him should abide by the same rules.

I caught that as well. He's gonna get hammered tomorrow on this conference.

Well I think he was pretty ticked after that press conference, didn't go how he wanted it.

You are my only bedmate sweetie. The room is just for you.

Obama cannot dictate the legislative branch and seems frustrated to me in this conference by the resistance from the people and our representatives.

I can see that this conference was meant to push his agenda, regarding health insurance. But if you watched it I'd say 1/3 to 1/2 of it was related to that. I mean I didn't even get drunk off the keywords in my OP, so my OP failed on some levels.

I do care, that's why I'm listening to everything he says before the sides get to make their points. I care very much what is happening to our country. If I didn't I wouldn't be watching this and instead tune into american idol or something.

I care very, very, very much.

Does it count if I got drunk anyway? Is that like a successful failure? Or a multi-level failure.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: spidey07
Admits to rationing care and government control of care - "must not be the most expensive treatment, just the best"

There he goes blaming more Republicans.

There you go not blaiming Republicans. Whici of you is right?

What you fail to realize is that both parties suck. Of course you can't admit that since your Democrat masters in Washington have such a tight grip on your leash.