Obama stance on spying on American citizens 2007

[Wheezer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6fnfVJzZT4

 

[Doppel]

Either he was a filthy liar at the time or, as I have fearfully suspected, the office just turns people into filthy liars.

http://rt.com/usa/obama-surveillance-nsa-monitoring-385/

 

[Attic]

That's why we need leaders and not politicians.

 

[Dari]

Politicians are professional liars. They are also fact-resistant.

 

[waggy]

Either he was a filthy liar at the time or, as I have fearfully suspected, the office just turns people into filthy liars.

http://rt.com/usa/obama-surveillance-nsa-monitoring-385/

he is a politician. he lies.

I also guarantee there will be those that come and defend him this. These will be the same that blasted bush.

 

[IronWing]

Obama has demonstrated himself to be an opportunistic scumbag. There is no defending him. There is no need to present a dichotomy. Bush was a scumbag, Obama is a scumbag and for many of the same reasons. Obama might have more culpability as he is a hell of a lot smarter than Bush so he doesn't have the excuse of being a fuckwit.

 

[fleshconsumed]

It seems that the greater the expectations/hopes, the bigger the disappointment. This past year has been really depressing. bleh... Next election I'll be "throwing my vote away" to third party whoever they're (as long as they're not tea party) simply out of principle.

 

[sportage]

All this spy hubbub paranoia. Just what is it that your up too... anyway???

 

[Patranus]

Can't believe you fools fell for his BS.....TWICE.......LOL.

 

[DCal430]

Those with clean hands should have nothing to fear.

FYI those who are paranoid, must have something to paranoid about.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Those with clean hands should have nothing to fear.

FYI those who are paranoid, must have something to paranoid about.

quoted for insanity

because no one would ever abuse their power, right?

 

[nextJin]

I would like to see someone break everything down, all the scandals time lines, all the Obama quotes from the past, all of the emails, visitor's logs etc.

It would be long as hell and damning.

 

[IronWing]

Can't believe you fools fell for his BS.....TWICE.......LOL.

Two words explain it. MCCain and Romney. Any hopes the left had in Obama were dead by the end of his first year in office.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

All this spy hubbub paranoia. Just what is it that your up too... anyway???

No wrong left unjustified, eh?
Neocons aren't dead, they just turn into Gumby and Pokey.

 

[Matt1970]

Say whatever it takes to get elected then spend your whole term coming up with excuses on why you can't deliver on those promises.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Two words explain it. MCCain and Romney. Any hopes the left had in Obama were dead by the end of his first year in office.

Look - I understand where you are going, but can you honestly insert someone else in that slot and say "He would have won?". Can you insert someone in there and think that would have taken away 96% of blacks voting?

 

[soundforbjt]

Look - I understand where you are going, but can you honestly insert someone else in that slot and say "He would have won?". Can you insert someone in there and think that would have taken away 96% of blacks voting?

That happens nearly every election, it didn't seem to hurt Bush.
Maybe it's something else...naw, couldn't be... right?

 

[blankslate]

well, maybe if everyone who's throwing a conniption fit now threw one back when AT&T whistle-blower revealed the earlier data-mining program President Obama wouldn't have dared to continue or expand it.

there just wasn't that big of a media-storm about it then...

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

not surprised. i love the kool aid people were drinking prior to the 2008 election though...

 

[buckshot24]

Those with clean hands should have nothing to fear.

FYI those who are paranoid, must have something to paranoid about.

DCal430 wouldn't mind getting an anal probe since he doesn't have anything to hide. Is that the argument?

 

[thraashman]

Did anyone actually watch the video? I despise the broad net records collection, but Obama's speech in this video is about warrantless wiretapping. Warrantless wiretapping was then and is still now illegal. No matter how much you might hate the current swath of overreaching spying, it went through the FISA court from everything I've seen.