Obama the white Bill Clinton?

[techs]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Wouldn't Obama be the black Bill Clinton?

I understand what they're trying to say, but I agree it's an idiotic question. I think Obama is half white anyway.

Not only is he half white, his dad is an African immigrant. He's not a "true" black-American.

I don't necessarily agree. My parents both immigrated from Nigeria. Even though my ancestry is 100% from that country, nobody can tell that by looking at or listening to me. So, outside of my home, I lived the same types of experiences as any other Black American.

While you obviously know what experiences you had more than me I would still venture to ask this question:
Were you raised by parents who grew up in a white dominated society and who were raised themselves by parents in a white dominated society? Is it possible that black Americans raised by parents who lived in country that was racist have experienced different teachings from their parents which has shaped their outlook on race and America?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Wouldn't Obama be the black Bill Clinton?

I understand what they're trying to say, but I agree it's an idiotic question. I think Obama is half white anyway.

Not only is he half white, his dad is an African immigrant. He's not a "true" black-American.

I don't necessarily agree. My parents both immigrated from Nigeria. Even though my ancestry is 100% from that country, nobody can tell that by looking at or listening to me. So, outside of my home, I lived the same types of experiences as any other Black American.

All of my black friends and coworkers don't consider African immigrants as the same as them. I read somewhere else that this was a consensus among blacks nationwide.

I never really asked them why they feel that way.

 

[SampSon]

He was raised poor, in working class south, single parent and played soul music.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: SampSon
He was raised poor, in working class south, single parent and played soul music.

There are poor white people in the south too. Hell look at Blues Brothers. I mean really, this is racism at its worst... when people think it's not.

 

[0roo0roo]

he's half white yes. and its odd the media never mention it. i guess they are sticking to the old racist one drop of black blood is enough to contaminate you type of thinking.

i dunno about being the white clinton, maybe the democrats are just so happy to have a new black friend.. you know.. like steven colberts. i've seen clinton speak in person, dudes got power, i don't sense it with obama yet.

 

[mjrpes3]

Originally posted by: Malak
Wait, so because he's poor that means he's black? WTF and this guy won the nobel prize? I would write the entire page on why racism is alive today and how this person should be ridiculed, not awarded prizes.

I do very much hope that you were attempting sarcasm.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: mjrpes3

Originally posted by: Malak
Wait, so because he's poor that means he's black? WTF and this guy won the nobel prize? I would write the entire page on why racism is alive today and how this person should be ridiculed, not awarded prizes.

I do very much hope that you were attempting sarcasm.

Absolutely not, it's an entirely racist observation.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: mjrpes3

Originally posted by: Malak
Wait, so because he's poor that means he's black? WTF and this guy won the nobel prize? I would write the entire page on why racism is alive today and how this person should be ridiculed, not awarded prizes.

I do very much hope that you were attempting sarcasm.

Absolutely not, it's an entirely racist observation.

Did you research who Toni Morrison is? That might be a good start. Might as well start calling Maya Angelou a racist while we're at it.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: mjrpes3

Originally posted by: Malak
Wait, so because he's poor that means he's black? WTF and this guy won the nobel prize? I would write the entire page on why racism is alive today and how this person should be ridiculed, not awarded prizes.

I do very much hope that you were attempting sarcasm.

Absolutely not, it's an entirely racist observation.

Did you research who Toni Morrison is? That might be a good start. Might as well start calling Maya Angelou a racist while we're at it.

It does not matter who said it, what matters is what was said. It was racist, plain and simple. Skin color should never be used like this, it's racist.

 

[bearxor]

Agreed - there's just as many black racists today as there are white ones. Giving someone a pass to say something like this just because they are black is promoting racism, not condoning it.

 

[SampSon]

There are poor white people in the south too. Hell look at Blues Brothers. I mean really, this is racism at its worst... when people think it's not.

It does not matter who said it, what matters is what was said. It was racist, plain and simple. Skin color should never be used like this, it's racist.

You're too ignorant to even know who Toni Morrison is. I'm guessing you're WAY too ignorant to know any of her works. Did you read the article from the New Yorker?
Do you understand why she said it and in what context? Can you do anything BUT give us the standard knee jerk reaction?

Race is a very valid way of describing someone or their traits. Get over your incredibly chastising PC ways and get a grip. Characteristics of a human can be described and put into racial context without it being derogatory. People like you make it impossible today for anyone to use race as an identifier without screaming 'OMG THATS RACIST, THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE!"
So saying that the vast majority of people in the southern states, who have pickup trucks with gun racks, confederate flags all over, love budweiser and nascar are all white is racist?

The world doesn't need more moral warriors. It needs more people with a sense of humor.

Agreed - there's just as many black racists today as there are white ones. Giving someone a pass to say something like this just because they are black is promoting racism, not condoning it.

The word you are looking for is condemn? Let me guess, inner city public schooling?

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: mjrpes3

Originally posted by: Malak
Wait, so because he's poor that means he's black? WTF and this guy won the nobel prize? I would write the entire page on why racism is alive today and how this person should be ridiculed, not awarded prizes.

I do very much hope that you were attempting sarcasm.

Absolutely not, it's an entirely racist observation.

Did you research who Toni Morrison is? That might be a good start. Might as well start calling Maya Angelou a racist while we're at it.

It does not matter who said it, what matters is what was said. It was racist, plain and simple. Skin color should never be used like this, it's racist.

There's no need to debate with you until you at least look up who she is and the context of what she's saying.

 

[ZiKi]

Originally posted by: herkulease
and what grade is this for?

this is for college level US History 1

 

[junkiefp]

Originally posted by: Hammerhead
¿Que pasa, essay?

hahahahaha

 

[animalia]

ok bill appealed to black people. barack is considered black, but he is actually mulatto. he talks like a white guy, thus being called white. this makes him the white bill clinton, able to make a speech , and appealing to black people at the same time. "yay, a guy who can inspire me to vote for him. I think I'll vote for him" SO BASICALLY TELL YOUR TEACHER THEY ARE A MORON AND THIS ASSIGNMENT IS BULLSH!T. ALSO STATE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE BULLSH!TED IT ANYWAY, AND THUS ARE DOING THEM A FAVOR BY NOT WRITING 4 F*CKING PARAGRAPHS ON THIS POINTLESS SUBJECT. I guess it helps to practice writing, but it certainly helps if it is inspired.

 

[NuclearNed]

Originally posted by: animalia
ok bill appealed to black people. barack is considered black, but he is actually mulatto. he talks like a white guy, thus being called white. this makes him the white bill clinton, able to make a speech , and appealing to black people at the same time. "yay, a guy who can inspire me to vote for him. I think I'll vote for him" SO BASICALLY TELL YOUR TEACHER THEY ARE A MORON AND THIS ASSIGNMENT IS BULLSH!T. ALSO STATE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE BULLSH!TED IT ANYWAY, AND THUS ARE DOING THEM A FAVOR BY NOT WRITING 4 F*CKING PARAGRAPHS ON THIS POINTLESS SUBJECT. I guess it helps to practice writing, but it certainly helps if it is inspired.

Please let me re-emphasize my earlier point on a matter of syntax:

Obama might be called the "black Bill Clinton", or the "mulatto Bill Clinton", but he isn't the "white Bill Clinton" because Bill Clinton is already white.

 

[Goosemaster]

lol@malak....you definitely got served.

 

[SonnyDaze]

Originally posted by: ZiKi
My teacher has assigned us a topic in which we have to answer in 3 to for 4 paragraphs. I have little interest or knowledge of politics and I hope some of you could help me out

"Bill Clinton has been described as America's first black president. Barack Obama has been described as the white Bill Clinton. What does this all mean? Try and solve these seemingly contradictory statements in a short (3 to 4) paragraph essay."

Someone explained that Bill could be "the first black president" because his office is in Harlem. Could this be why?

Thanks in advance

Fvck it, I won't even bother....

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: ZiKi
My teacher has assigned us a topic in which we have to answer in 3 to for 4 paragraphs. I have little interest or knowledge of politics and I hope some of you could help me out

"Bill Clinton has been described as America's first black president. Barack Obama has been described as the white Bill Clinton. What does this all mean? Try and solve these seemingly contradictory statements in a short (3 to 4) paragraph essay."

Someone explained that Bill could be "the first black president" because his office is in Harlem. Could this be why?

Thanks in advance

..you might analize why american media is hyper race sensitive and would rather rattle on about race rather then true qualifications.

 

[classy]

How is this a viable topic for History or any class for that matter? Sounds kinda fishy to me.

 

[quikah]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i dunno about being the white clinton, maybe the democrats are just so happy to have a new black friend.. you know.. like steven colberts. i've seen clinton speak in person, dudes got power, i don't sense it with obama yet.

I think they are happy to finally have someone who can give a speech without putting the audience to sleep (Kerry and Gore...zzz)

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: The Cornballer
Saruman was the white.
radagast the brown
gandalf, well we all know.
obama the green

LOL