Obama to bypass Congress to sign Disclose Act into law?

NoStateofMind

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According to this website he is:

Last month, the DISCLOSE Act failed to pass in the Congress. Today, the Washington Examiner learned that the President plans to circumvent the legislative branch and to pass the DISCLOSE Act by fiat with the signing of an executive order.

[T]he order would require all companies that sign contracts with the federal government to report on the personal political activities of their officers and directors.

The White House claims the EO would make the federal government more transparent. But a quick look at who Obama chose to exempt from the EO shows this is false: unions that sign collective bargaining contracts with the federal government would be exempt from the “disclosure” requirements. The clear intent of this bill is to suppress speech and punish Obama’s enemies.

According to a Congressional Research Service review of Executive Orders over the last 40 years, no White House has ever issued an EO dealing with campaign finance. Signing the DISCLOSE Act EO would be an unprecedented power grab by Obama. Quote Via: The Washington Examiner.

This effectively means that if your company, that has gov’t contracts and gives money to the opposing party, could have their gov’t contracts pulled for not donating to the party in power. This executive order is no way to enact “change” by the stroke of a pen with NO legislative representation. This bill failed, so move onto deficit reform, creating jobs, and energy independence.

How much of this is true I have no idea. However if it holds water there is cause for concern IMO.
 

CallMeJoe

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A political rumor column (Beltway Confidential?) in a free ad rag (Washington Examiner?) reports that Republican sources allege that the Obama administration might be planning an executive order... I think I'll wait for something a little more concrete before I get all worked up about it.
 

Jhhnn

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Gotta luv the whole "suppression of speech" from the Right. As it is, their funders can pay people to say what say what they want and not have to own it, which is a form of deception.

They want rather desperately to fully exploit anonymous corporate personhood and the ill-conceived Citizens' United ruling.

What unions have collective bargaining agreements with the US govt, anyway, other than the Postal unions?

Edit- Phil Anschutz owns the linked rag, the Washington Examiner, so it has the kind of slant that would make even Faux News blush...
 
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cubby1223

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A political rumor column (Beltway Confidential?) in a free ad rag (Washington Examiner?) reports that Republican sources allege that the Obama administration might be planning an executive order... I think I'll wait for something a little more concrete before I get all worked up about it.

How about the Associated Press then?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/No-2-House-Democrat-against-apf-1681676828.html?x=0&.v=1

or the Huffington Post?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fred-wertheimer/hoyer-vs-hoyer-house-mino_b_860522.html

But you're probably right, this is a 100% fictional work of some evil conservative with a racist agenda against the black president The world is a better place with skeptics like yourself!
 
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dmcowen674

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How much of this is true I have no idea. However if it holds water there is cause for concern IMO.

Actually it is a smart move to help re-level the playing field.

Since the Supreme Court gave unlimited money and voting powers to Corporations we should at least know what individuals are behind the unlimited money and power at said Corporations and which side they are supporting.
 

Vette73

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How about the Associated Press then?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/No-2-House-Democrat-against-apf-1681676828.html?x=0&.v=1

or the Huffington Post?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fred-wertheimer/hoyer-vs-hoyer-house-mino_b_860522.html

But you're probably right, this is a 100% fictional work of some evil conservative with a racist agenda against the black president The world is a better place with skeptics like yourself!


And if you read the links you gave VS what the op posted you would see that CallMeJoe is correct. The OPs little peice has a lot of BS and junk in it.

All Obama might do is "require anyone submitting bids for government work to disclose two years' worth of political contributions and expenditures. The order would apply if the total exceeded $5,000 to a given recipient during a given year."
It does not block someone from donating and its only when you apply for Gov Contracts. Don't want to disclouse then don't go for Fed Gov contracts.
 

shangshang

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Why do you have comic sans in your sig?

because he's another bible thumpin attention hoe who wants the world to know about his omipotent god! But you already knew this didn't you???? lol

the intarweb is a goddamn playground for hidden neocon/bibble thumper/closet racists... lots of them
 

NoStateofMind

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And if you read the links you gave VS what the op posted you would see that CallMeJoe is correct. The OPs little peice has a lot of BS and junk in it.

All Obama might do is "require anyone submitting bids for government work to disclose two years' worth of political contributions and expenditures. The order would apply if the total exceeded $5,000 to a given recipient during a given year."
It does not block someone from donating and its only when you apply for Gov Contracts. Don't want to disclouse then don't go for Fed Gov contracts.

Granted at this point its hypothetical. But even you can see the potential for abuse?
 

NoStateofMind

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because he's another bible thumpin attention hoe who wants the world to know about his omipotent god! But you already knew this didn't you???? lol

the intarweb is a goddamn playground for hidden neocon/bibble thumper/closet racists... lots of them

Okay, I have no idea why my sig of all things is being discussed. Comic sans? WTF do you care? Bored? lol

Do you often jump to conclusions with such little information? Care to backup your claim that I'm a "hidden neocon/bibble thumper/closet racists"? Or are you just using sensationalist buzzwords to make yourself sound cool?
 

Jaskalas

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Granted at this point its hypothetical. But even you can see the potential for abuse?

Don't put money in the right pockets, and you don't get a contract. They can keep track of and do that already, but Obama's method streamlines the process.
 

CPA

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Actually it is a smart move to help re-level the playing field.

Since the Supreme Court gave unlimited money and voting powers to Corporations we should at least know what individuals are behind the unlimited money and power at said Corporations and which side they are supporting.


Again, a moronic statement from you. How does this level the playing field when unions are exempt?
 

CPA

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And if you read the links you gave VS what the op posted you would see that CallMeJoe is correct. The OPs little peice has a lot of BS and junk in it.

All Obama might do is "require anyone submitting bids for government work to disclose two years' worth of political contributions and expenditures. The order would apply if the total exceeded $5,000 to a given recipient during a given year."
It does not block someone from donating and its only when you apply for Gov Contracts. Don't want to disclouse then don't go for Fed Gov contracts.

Unless your part of a union.

Again, hypocrites will be hypocrites.
 

DCal430

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Less than 30% of federal workers belong to a union, and out of that 30% less than 50% have any type of wage collective bargaining rights. The vast majority of federal workers are nonunion.
 

wuliheron

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Less than 30% of federal workers belong to a union, and out of that 30% less than 50% have any type of wage collective bargaining rights. The vast majority of federal workers are nonunion.


Not to mention that unions in the private sector are at an all time low of less then 9% of workers, making those few with collective bargaining rights a vanishingly small minority. Obama excluding them is merely a token gesture with no real substantive effect.

All this does is make it transparent to the public who is funding what. Individual votes can be anonymous, but if funding is not transparent then you have nothing solid with which to base your vote on.
 
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drebo

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My company does not need, and should not need, to know my political affiliation or activities.
 

wuliheron

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My company does not need, and should not need, to know my political affiliation or activities.


Damn straight! If I want to send money to Al Qaeda it is nobody's business. If politicians want to accept money from Al Qaeda it is none of the public's damn business.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Perhaps the question is why congress lets the president by-pass them so often.

Because they are powerless to do so and party unity is THE most important thing in government. Dems will no sooner make Obama look bad than the Reps with Bush. Loose the Presidency over... well, anything? Not going to happen. One of my favorite sayings is "Party uber alles". Actions suggest there's too much truth in it.
 

cubby1223

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And if you read the links you gave VS what the op posted you would see that CallMeJoe is correct. The OPs little peice has a lot of BS and junk in it.

They contain the same base information. Plus a quick google search would have prevented CallMeJoe's response. He was just lazy and still wished to voice his partisan opinion. Gosh this forum gets dumber by the day.


And the rest of you! Why are you turning this into a corporation versus union debate? I personally do not agree with this supposed order, even if unions were not exempt.
 

Greenman

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Actually it is a smart move to help re-level the playing field.

Since the Supreme Court gave unlimited money and voting powers to Corporations we should at least know what individuals are behind the unlimited money and power at said Corporations and which side they are supporting.

I agree Dave, as long as it applies to everyone. Unions shouldn't get a pass.
 
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