Why you make lame threads and ask people to show you anything is a bit of a mystery to most of us to begin with.
"Show me, prove it, blah blah blah"
If anyone does so you blow it off anyway.
Trickle down has never worked.
Economists mostly analyze long term trends or specific economic behaviors. Economic theory isn't very useful for predicting market moves like that accurately and if it was, people would adjust and make it not so.
It's similar to saying that sabermetrics are useless because they can't tell you if Mike Trout will go 0-5 tonight or hit for the cycle. While they can't do that, they can tell you that adding Mike Trout to your team is highly likely to improve your team's run differential.
Again, it is extremely rare for anything in economics to have the near-universal agreement on it that free trade as a net positive does. If you want to ignore that be my guest, but you shouldn't need to wonder why others don't. I also find it funny that you would slam trickle down economics as being bad while supporting a candidate who has promised the largest trickle down tax cut in world history.
I think Bernie said something about unfair trade. That's why the DNC had to railroad him. If he kept talking, he would probably have 2 bullets in the back of his head. A suicide, obviously.
We get to pick between the candidate who wants us to compete against slave wages or the candidate who wants us to compete against slave wages.
So Hillary's plan is to let rich people like Trump continue to import slaves, but she'll make up for it by taxing him.One candidate says we should seek compensation for wage loss by raising taxes at the top. The other says that trickle down economics really will work with moar jerb creator tax cuts.
It is not isolationist to negotiate trade deals. In the past our government coerced car manufacturers to build cars in the USA which was still beneficial for both countries. There is no requirement to buy everything from China. We could negotiate with the computer manufacturers in Taiwan (China) to set up plants in the USA to manufacture computers or RAM Chips, SSD's etc. We should be trying to increase trade with countries like Japan and South Korea which on some level are free democracies, which are not communists and dont want to kill us or take over our land.
So, which signatories to the TPP are communists and want to kill us and/or take over our land?
So Hillary's plan is to let rich people like Trump continue to import slaves, but she'll make up for it by taxing him.
I guess we'll put that in the same excuse bin as "Yes I raped her, but I didn't put it in her butt. You should give me a lighter sentence."
Peru. Nobody would suspect Peru until its too late.
The economy is so rigged to benefit the financial elite that we need rapid growth for working people to get a sliver of it. White people obviously won't provide the birthrate or the demand to accomplish that.
Otherwise we just fall back into rentiership.
The irony here is that Melania lays it on rather thick about how she's nothing like the people her husband wants to boot out of the country. Let's call it her 'I was legit white immigrant' tour.
Here's the problem, as both TPM Readers JSK (immigrant) and PG (immigration lawyer) noted to us in emails: the set of circumstances Melania describes makes it almost certain that she was in the US on travel/visitor visas rather than a work visa. If you're on a work visa you don't have to keep traveling back and forth to get your visa renewed. (The Politico article goes through the technical names for these different kinds of visas.)
There is a possible exception: very high profile athletes and models can get a kind of visa which allows them to visit the country and work for a short period of time. But Melania wasn't in that echelon at all. She was one of many models trying to get a start in the business doing mainly catalog work.
The upshot is that Melania was almost certainly working in the US illegally. And every time she returned to the country and passed through immigration she would have had to have committed fraud by saying she in the US to visit rather than work.
In theory this would make her subsequent Green Card and even citizenship suspect, based on visa fraud earlier in the process.
It is only fair to say that based on our reporting this sort of illegal work was rife in the modeling industry at the time. This wouldn't have made her a particularly egregious example. But then few of those women are now married to a man who wants a zero tolerance policy that would lead to the expulsion of 3% of the current US population.
So if you're inclined to snark, Trump's third wife was an 'illegal'. Even her status in the country today could, in theory, be suspect.
you concluded that to be Clinton's position because... what, exactly?
Yes, continuous growth of human societies and economies is definitely practical, sustainable and desirable, I agree. /s
The reason the people on the top hate falling populations is that it might cause land, property, energy and commodity prices to fall due to softer demand. The truly fantastically rich are highly invested in those 4 things, much more so than your average person.
Your own words:
"One candidate says we should seek compensation for wage loss by raising taxes at the top."
So you're saying Hillary's plan is to offshore jobs and import slaves but make up for it by taxing the rich.
Please. Your first sentence simply dodges the point. If we want a society that doesn't need to grow to prosper we'll need to fundamentally alter our concepts about ownership & distribution of income. I doubt that you advocate any such thing.
Your second paragraph is somewhat oblivious, ignoring the fact that the greatest reservoir of American middle class wealth is in their homes. It also ignores the fact that Rentiership economies are the result of the huge inequality & remote ownership we're achieving.
Well said.I think trade is good with countries with comparable labor/environmental laws as our own. If it's free trade with countries with a blatant lack of labor laws, sweat shops, 16 hour days, hazardous working conditions etc then the answer is no. Americans can't compete with that. It is foolish to try. And even forgetting that for a moment, I can see no justifiable reason for why US dollars should be actively enabling and facilitating such horrible working conditions around the globe.
If that was ransom, then Obama was bloody brilliant to pay it in Iran's own money.Not to mention give them 400mm in ransom money while we get a shitty deal and our sailors humiliated.
Or you can simply opt out and vote third party. Hillary and Trump are both horrible people, but neither is so horrible as to force me to vote for the other.That's the sad part... one will lie and get votes from the gullible and the other will just depend on the fact that the other is the worst candidate in history while suckling at the teat of wealthy donors...
One way or another the majority of the country is screwed... to one degree or another.
Sad situation to be in... always having to go for the "lesser evil"....
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Handling Trump's junk is perhaps the one job I support outsourcing to illegal aliens. No American should be subjected to such horrors.It looks like Trump got an illegal to do a job Americans wouldn't do.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/was-melania-trump-an-illegal-also-argh