Obama waiver allows US aid to countries that use child soldiers

dammitgibs

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/27/AR2010102707157.html



Obama pictured with his nobel prize, I forget what it was for?

Those countries would have been penalized under the Child Soldiers Prevention Act, which was signed into law by President George W. Bush shortly before he left office. The law took effect this year, after the State Department identified six countries that used government soldiers - including Somalia and Burma.

Ohhhhh well that makes sense, he inherited this mess from Bush
 

Throckmorton

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Put away your Jump to Conclusions Mat and calm down.

Senior U.S. officials said Wednesday that Yemen was exempted because ending military aid would jeopardize the country's ability to fight al-Qaeda. In Sudan, U.S. military assistance will be critical in helping the unstable southern part of the country build military institutions if it votes to secede in a January referendum, as expected, officials said.

Congo was exempted because U.S.-funded programs there are aimed at helping the military become more professional and less abusive, officials said. Chad got a pass because of its role in fighting terrorism and assistance with the humanitarian crisis in the Darfur region of Sudan. In addition, U.S. aid goes toward helping that country's military end its practice of using child soldiers, officials said.
 

Zorkorist

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There are no good reasons to give aid to countries with child soldiers.

If you have a problem with the Country, attack them.

After all, they foster child soldiiers.

-John
 
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gingermeggs

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On the bright side, you can't afford to invade those countries now!
and kill more innocent civvies.
But, a child using an American made gun is good for your wrenched economy- saving print up more then you already have too!
Proud to be an American?
If the pubs get in are you better off?
Ohh fuck it! ure all screwed really!
 

Zorkorist

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Ginger,

We will be just as horrified when it is your country funding these fucks.

-John
 

dammitgibs

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On the bright side, you can't afford to invade those countries now!
and kill more innocent civvies.
But, a child using an American made gun is good for your wrenched economy- saving print up more then you already have too!
Proud to be an American?
If the pubs get in are you better off?
Ohh fuck it! ure all screwed really!


you suck at haiku
 

Double Trouble

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This is exactly the kind of stuff that makes the US look bad. Either you stand by your principles or your don't. Half assed excuses like "oh, well, these guys are sorta helping us, and they hate us a little less than the other guys" doesn't cut it. If you are against child soldiers then you make it stick and force countries to get rid of that horrid notion before giving them the aid they want/need.

This is the kind of thinking that created Bin Laden and Saddam -- "yeah, they are bad guys, but lets fund them since they are fighting the soviets!.. Good idea!". Or "sure, Saddam is one evil SOB, but since he's fighting Iran, we should go ahead and give him more weapons and stuff. That will never come back to bite us in the ass!".

Our "leaders" never learn.

I'm sure our resident party hacks will be here soon to tell us how this is all Bush's fault, of course.....
 

Bateluer

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This is exactly the kind of stuff that makes the US look bad. Either you stand by your principles or your don't. Half assed excuses like "oh, well, these guys are sorta helping us, and they hate us a little less than the other guys" doesn't cut it. If you are against child soldiers then you make it stick and force countries to get rid of that horrid notion before giving them the aid they want/need.

This is the kind of thinking that created Bin Laden and Saddam -- "yeah, they are bad guys, but lets fund them since they are fighting the soviets!.. Good idea!". Or "sure, Saddam is one evil SOB, but since he's fighting Iran, we should go ahead and give him more weapons and stuff. That will never come back to bite us in the ass!".

Our "leaders" never learn.

I'm sure our resident party hacks will be here soon to tell us how this is all Bush's fault, of course.....

This. QFT.
 

matt0611

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We should end all foreign aid and use that money to pay off the debt or that money should come back to the american people where it belongs in form of tax breaks.

Why should I work and be forced to give my money to people in fucking Congo and Somalia? Why should any of us? Disgusting.
 

Jaskalas

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What's the number... 3 million Americans losing their homes this year, or next?

Wonder what they think of foreign aid.
 

Genx87

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Put away your Jump to Conclusions Mat and calm down.

How does what your quoted make this better? Shit, looks like one of those reasons is to help one side in an expected civil war.

We shouldnt be funding any foreign military. Especially ones that are using children within their ranks.
 

Jhhnn

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Remarkable lack of reading comprehension. Obama just put it out in the open, rather than leaving it as one of those dirty little secrets we don't talk about, as with past administrations. He put the recipient govts on notice by going public with what has been an ongoing supply of aid to those regimes.

Dub and Dick had no qualms whatsoever about doing this, and clearly had no intent of reassessment, ever. They just kept it quiet so nobody would notice, nobody would question their judgment. Obama laid it on the table for public scrutiny. Regardless of one's position, it's now out in the open for people to assess and to let the admin and their congress critters know their opinions on the matter.

So, uhh, y'all didn't want to know about that? Wanted to just pretend, chant mindless drivel to keep your mind focused on other more important stuff, like whatever Palin, Rush and O'Reilly tell you is important? That option is always open for the True Believers...
 

PeshakJang

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Remarkable lack of reading comprehension.

Indeed you have.

Bush signed this into law to stop it. The law would take effect this year for the first time, but Obama decided to ignore it. Spin it all you want, but you're just wrong.

Also,

Jesse Eaves, policy adviser on children's issues for the humanitarian group World Vision, noted that the law did not mandate a cutoff of all forms of military assistance for offenders. For example, they could have still gotten help in eliminating their use of child soldiers.
"That kind of assistance is still allowed under the law without invoking the waiver. That's why this is a disturbing step," he said.


So we could have still given them aide to help stop the use of child soldiers, but Obama's waiver allows us to continue funding their military in general.


Nobel peace price is just a piece of paper, anyway.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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I think the world is a far more complex place than a yes or no paradise.

2 things can be equally true.

Anyway, this thread is pointless without a serious debate about our foreign policy and our "war on terror".

This is the OP just trying to score points with an audience and is not serious about engaging anyone on a serious level.
 

matt0611

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Remarkable lack of reading comprehension. Obama just put it out in the open, rather than leaving it as one of those dirty little secrets we don't talk about, as with past administrations. He put the recipient govts on notice by going public with what has been an ongoing supply of aid to those regimes.

Dub and Dick had no qualms whatsoever about doing this, and clearly had no intent of reassessment, ever. They just kept it quiet so nobody would notice, nobody would question their judgment. Obama laid it on the table for public scrutiny. Regardless of one's position, it's now out in the open for people to assess and to let the admin and their congress critters know their opinions on the matter.

So, uhh, y'all didn't want to know about that? Wanted to just pretend, chant mindless drivel to keep your mind focused on other more important stuff, like whatever Palin, Rush and O'Reilly tell you is important? That option is always open for the True Believers...

Translation: Obama may be doing something bad but its ok because Bush did it too! And he kept it a secret! At least Obama is doing wrong things out in the open! You partisan hacks!
 

Jaskalas

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So to receive US foreign aid, all you need to do is send us a few bombs in the mail. Quite a message to send to the rest of the world.
 
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