Obamacare round 2 amazingly scheduled for after election

[rudeguy]

This year's round of Obamacare is amazingly scheduled for Nov 15, not October like last year. I find it amazing because so many deadlines had to be pushed back last year. Why would you start it later this year? Oh right, that election thing.

Some interesting highlights:

• New ACA prices will vary. Some people enrolling for a second year will discover they overpaid the first year and see decreases of 2.5 percent, like in Oregon. More will learn their plans were underpriced and will face average monthly increases of 6 percent according to a review of the 38 states that have finalized rates. Louisiana residents will see an increase of over 15 percent.
  
• Experts predict health care plans offered through the ACA government exchanges will continue to offer narrower networks – that is fewer choices of doctors, medicines and local health care providers.
  
• Next year senior citizens in the popular Medicare Advantage plans will see health care benefits cut by an average of $1,530, rising to over $3,700 a year by 2017 according to a recent analysis by the American Action Network. This is due to severe Medicare cuts in President Obama’s ACA that were delayed past the recent presidential election.
  
• On Jan. 1 the mandate that local business offer government-approved health care or pay a stiff tax will begin to kick in for companies with more than 100 workers. The year after the mandate hits small businesses with more than 50 workers. This is causing local businesses in my congressional district to cut hours for part-time workers, delay hiring new workers and rethink expansion plans.

  One local restaurant owner told me his accountant recommended closing two of his three restaurants due to the added costs of the ACA. Major companies like Target, Home Depot, Trader Joe’s and Walmart have been forced to stop offering health insurance to some workers.

• Finally, some individuals filing their taxes April 15 will learn they have to repay the IRS for ACA subsidies they weren’t eligible for – through no fault of their own. It could be thousands of dollars. Is this the health care reform you were promised?
  
• Enrollment on the Healthcare.gov website begins Nov. 15, or 11 days after the midterm vote, and critics who worry about rising premium hikes in 2015 say that’s no coincidence. Last year’s inaugural enrollment period on the health-care exchange began Oct. 1.
  
  
  

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[Sinsear]

Obama, lol

 

[spacejamz]

The decision to pushback enrollment until after the elections was made in Nov 2013 under the premise 'this will give more time for insurers to evaluate their 2014 plans so they can set the prices for their 2015 plans properly'...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamacare-enrollment-for-2015-to-be-delayed-a-month/

How convenient they can delay it for this reason but they couldn't delay the initial rollout for a month despite the massive bugs and problems that existed back then...

 

[PokerGuy]

Yeah, gotta make sure we don't provide the voters a nice reminder of the disaster inflicted by the dems, we'll push it off until right after they vote. Gotta give them credit, that makes sense, it's too bad the electorate is too dumb to punish them for doing such things.

 

[fskimospy]

It's always nice to see what is happening within the right-wing media bubble. Are you guys still desperately attempting to convince each other that the ACA is a disaster?

 

[PokerGuy]

It's always nice to see what is happening within the right-wing media bubble. Are you guys still desperately attempting to convince each other that the ACA is a disaster?

No need to convince anyone. It is. The only question is how long it will take everyone to recognize it.

 

[Slick5150]

No need to convince anyone. It is. The only question is how long it will take everyone to recognize it.

Well, considering I now have significantly better insurance and pay less than I was before ...

 

[rudeguy]

Well, considering I now have significantly better insurance and pay less than I was before ...

You are welcome leach.

I now pay more for insurance, get shittier service and pay twice as much for prescriptions.

 

[cabri]

This year's round of Obamacare is amazingly scheduled for Nov 15, not October like last year. I find it amazing because so many deadlines had to be pushed back last year. Why would you start it later this year? Oh right, that election thing.

Some interesting highlights:

On Jan. 1 the mandate that local business offer government-approved health care or pay a stiff tax will begin to kick in for companies with more than 100 workers. The year after the mandate hits small businesses with more than 50 workers. This is causing local businesses in my congressional district to cut hours for part-time workers, delay hiring new workers and rethink expansion plans.

This business offering insurance is also turning out to be a farce.

Many contracting agencies and small business just offer, not provide insurance.

they setup an account with an insurance provider that may generate a bulk discount, but the company itself dos not kick in anything.

For contracting agencies; they have two classifications, their permanent employees and the "temp" employees that are contracted out to other companies.

The temps may not be supported like the permanent, but because there is insurance available (not subsidized by the company), the company "meets" the ACA requirements.

 

[cabri]

Well, considering I now have significantly better insurance and pay less than I was before ...

You are one of the few; are you being subsidized?

 

[rudeguy]

You are one of the few; are you being subsidized?

obviously he is


He should write a thank you note to the thousands of people who had their hours cut or the thousands of people who lost their jobs to make it so he got better insurance

 

[fskimospy]

No need to convince anyone. It is. The only question is how long it will take everyone to recognize it.

Like I said, interesting view from the bubble. Most nonpartisan and objective research shows it's working just fine. Better than projected, actually.

I imagine that kind of news doesn't penetrate the bubble though.

 

[rudeguy]

Like I said, interesting view from the bubble. Most nonpartisan and objective research shows it's working just fine. Better than projected, actually.

I imagine that kind of news doesn't penetrate the bubble though.

so thousands of people losing their jobs, thousand of people being cut back to part time, tons of businesses closing is "working just fine"? What about the thousands of people whose medicare is getting cut? That's "working just fine"?

 

[Slick5150]

obviously he is


He should write a thank you note to the thousands of people who had their hours cut or the thousands of people who lost their jobs to make it so he got better insurance

I love how you jump to conclusions to support your own wrong argument.

No, I am not subsidized. I own my own business and purchase my own health care.

 

[thraashman]

so thousands of people losing their jobs, thousand of people being cut back to part time, tons of businesses closing is "working just fine"? What about the thousands of people whose medicare is getting cut? That's "working just fine"?

I'd love to hear a better solution. The previous system was just as fucking broken. Now we have a system that people bitch about but covers tens of millions more people with a few whiny fucks having to pay more. You got a better idea, then serve it the fuck up! The GOP has proven they don't have a solution they just want to attack the current one. Well that shit won't fly. You come up with something better that will actually work or shut the fuck up.

 

[fskimospy]

so thousands of people losing their jobs, thousand of people being cut back to part time, tons of businesses closing is "working just fine"? What about the thousands of people whose medicare is getting cut? That's "working just fine"?

Thousands of people aren't losing their jobs. The CBO estimated the labor inpact of the ACA and found that almost all of the expected job reductions were from people CHOOSING not to work.

There has been no evidence of an increase in part time labor as a result of the ACA.

Medicare advantage cuts? What cuts?

 

[rudeguy]

I'd love to hear a better solution. The previous system was just as fucking broken. Now we have a system that people bitch about but covers tens of millions more people with a few whiny fucks having to pay more. You got a better idea, then serve it the fuck up! The GOP has proven they don't have a solution they just want to attack the current one. Well that shit won't fly. You come up with something better that will actually work or shut the fuck up.

are you sure the "new system" covers tens of millions of more people? Are you sure that tens of millions of people didn't get a different form of insurance?

Also, are you sure that millions of people now see the doctor less because they can't afford their deductible?

I love how liberal morons go from "Obamacare is great! Its helps so many people!!" to "well its broken but its better than your idea". Both are lies.

Expansion of HSAs and FSAs would have been 1,000 times better. Instead Obama restricted those to subsidize Obamacare. Its fun that we that oppose Obamacare have tons of hard evidence that it hurts Americans but the liberal morons continue to state that its great and consider that enough evidence.

 

[michal1980]

Like I said, interesting view from the bubble. Most nonpartisan and objective research shows it's working just fine. Better than projected, actually.

I imagine that kind of news doesn't penetrate the bubble though.

the bubble you live in isnt even see through.

 

[rudeguy]

Thousands of people aren't losing their jobs. The CBO estimated the labor inpact of the ACA and found that almost all of the expected job reductions were from people CHOOSING not to work.

There has been no evidence of an increase in part time labor as a result of the ACA.

Medicare advantage cuts? What cuts?

http://lockerroom.johnlocke.org/2014/10/13/obamacare-will-cut-employment-by-3-percent-study-finds/

The reduction in weekly employment due to these ACA disincentives is estimated to be about 3 percent, or about 4 million fewer full-time-equivalent workers. This is the aggregate result of the law’s employment disincentives, and is nearly double the

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/cu-boulder-becomes-latest-university-to-cut-studen/

http://www.denverpost.com/editorials/ci_26720847/reduced-hours-are-reason-tweak-affordable-care-act

The latest example comes from the University of Colorado Boulder, where administrators posted an online notice last week informing students that their university-provided employment would be capped at 25 hours per week as a result of the Affordable Care Act.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...atest-university-to-cut-studen/#ixzz3GEHCu9mz
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Yawn

 

[fskimospy]

http://lockerroom.johnlocke.org/2014/10/13/obamacare-will-cut-employment-by-3-percent-study-finds/

lol. As usual you guys trot out a "study" from an ultra-right wing think tank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercatus_Center

I'll rely on the CBO, thanks. You know, an actual, credible research organization.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/cu-boulder-becomes-latest-university-to-cut-studen/

http://www.denverpost.com/editorials/ci_26720847/reduced-hours-are-reason-tweak-affordable-care-act

Yawn

Oh good, anecdotal evidence as opposed to BLS data on part time employment.

This is what I'm talking about. Why do you let people dupe you like this?

 

[rudeguy]

Please refute my statement with facts or kindly
STOP POSTING

 

[fskimospy]

Please refute my statement with facts or kindly
STOP POSTING

lol. I'm simply pointing out obvious flaws in your argument. You are relying on anecdotal evidence and studies from obviously biased sources. This probably cuts in in the right wing bubble, but not in reality.

Also, for extra lulz:

So I gave you factual backing for my statement. Does this do anything to change your mind? If not, why?

because you are a moron and I would never listen to a word you said

 

[Londo_Jowo]

The company for whom I work has always had enrollment the last 2 weeks of November.

 

[thraashman]

Please refute my statement with facts or kindly
STOP POSTING

...

So I gave you factual backing for my statement. Does this do anything to change your mind? If not, why?

because you are a moron and I would never listen to a word you said

KILLING BLOW!




Thanks for the laugh eskimospy, that was perfect.

 

[WackyDan]

I'd love to hear a better solution. The previous system was just as fucking broken. Now we have a system that people bitch about but covers tens of millions more people with a few whiny fucks having to pay more. You got a better idea, then serve it the fuck up! The GOP has proven they don't have a solution they just want to attack the current one. Well that shit won't fly. You come up with something better that will actually work or shut the fuck up.

Tens of millions more are not now insured. ACA is the previous system and was a huge handout to the insurers... They still can't cross state lines.

Talk about a bubble.