Obamacare signups?

[MagickMan]

Wait, what? I thought you knew what you were talking about...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act

That's not at all the same thing as what you claimed, sparky. What a private insurer will pay, WRT to the uninsured, is not the same as what a hospital is required to provide, if they're a system that that accepts Medicare. Case in point, a local man very recently went the Uni of Tenn medical center ER with stomach pain, they found he had a tumor (Hodgkin's Lymphoma). They then admitted him, removed the tumor, and started him on chemo, within days. Treating Emergent Care isn't at all the same as giving a few painkillers and discharging the person. That's just more dishonest garbage and fearmongering.

 

[MagickMan]

You read your own posts?

Did your mom have any children who lived?

 

[senseamp]

That's not at all the same thing as what you claimed, sparky. What a private insurer will pay, WRT to the uninsured, is not the same as what a hospital is required to provide, if they're a system that that accepts Medicare. Case in point, a local man very recently went the Uni of Tenn medical center ER with stomach pain, they found he had a tumor (Hodgkin's Lymphoma). They then admitted him, removed the tumor, and started him on chemo, within days. Treating Emergent Care isn't at all the same as giving a few painkillers and discharging the person. That's just more dishonest garbage and fearmongering.

Thanks for that anecdotal evidence. Cool Story Bro's all around.
It doesn't change this statement of yours being a falsehood:

Medical services can't be denied by a patient's inability to pay, that's the law.

You can absolutely be denied medical services by your inability to pay, beyond what is necessary to discharge you in stable condition.

 

[MagickMan]

Thanks for that anecdotal evidence. Cool Story Bro's all around.
It doesn't change this statement of yours being a falsehood:

You can absolutely be denied medical services by your inability to pay, beyond what is necessary to discharge you in stable condition.

Right, keep on with the fear mongering bullshit. As I said before:

What a private insurer will pay, WRT to the uninsured, is not the same as what a hospital is required to provide, if they're a system that that accepts Medicare.

but thanks for playing. :thumbsup:

 

[senseamp]

Right, keep on with the fear mongering bullshit. As I said before:



but thanks for playing. :thumbsup:

OK, I hope you never find out how wrong you are.

 

[MagickMan]

OK, I hope you never find out how wrong you are.

I can't help it if you don't actually know the law and only parrot what you've been told. :\

 

[Bowfinger]

I can't help it if you don't actually know the law and only parrot what you've been told. :\

Irony overload.

Did you even bother to read the Wikipedia page -- or anything else -- before you started shooting off your mouth? Good grief, the very name should be your first clue: Emergency Medical Treatment ... If you cannot pay, you are entitled to enough emergency medical treatment to stabilize you, but you are not entitled to other medical services. If you don't like Wiki, you can find hundreds of Google matches that will also explain this in great detail.

In short, you claimed:

"Medical services can't be denied by a patient's inability to pay, that's the law."
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Your exact words, verbatim. You were wrong, black and white, unequivocal. That won't change no matter how much you blow or how belligerent you become.

 

[senseamp]

Conservatives seem to have a lot of faith in government mandates saving them from their small government health policies.

 

[MagickMan]

Irony overload.

Did you even bother to read the Wikipedia page -- or anything else -- before you started shooting off your mouth? Good grief, the very name should be your first clue: Emergency Medical Treatment ... If you cannot pay, you are entitled to enough emergency medical treatment to stabilize you, but you are not entitled to other medical services. If you don't like Wiki, you can find hundreds of Google matches that will also explain this in great detail.

In short, you claimed:

"Medical services can't be denied by a patient's inability to pay, that's the law."
​

Your exact words, verbatim. You were wrong, black and white, unequivocal. That won't change no matter how much you blow or how belligerent you become.

No, that's not the law, and it can vary in different states (with even more protections), but thanks for playing.

http://www.emtala.com/faq.htm

I know it doesn't fit into your narrow, little worldview, but all a patient has to do is decline release or ask another opinion, at any time. Also, stabilization means that the patient's condition is not likely to deteriorate, but in the event that the condition causes the patient to deteriorate on its own, the hospital either must; 1. Continue providing care for the patient to the best of their ability, or 2. Transfer the patient to a facility that is more qualified to treat the patient.

Conservatives seem to have a lot of faith in government mandates saving them from their small government health policies.

Wouldn't know, but I have noticed that Progressives don't read laws, they just believe what their leaders tell them about the law. :\

 

[ivwshane]

No, that's not the law, and it can vary in different states (with even more protections), but thanks for playing.

http://www.emtala.com/faq.htm

I know it doesn't fit into your narrow, little worldview, but all a patient has to do is decline release or ask another opinion, at any time. Also, stabilization means that the patient's condition is not likely to deteriorate, but in the event that the condition causes the patient to deteriorate on its own, the hospital either must; 1. Continue providing care for the patient to the best of their ability, or 2. Transfer the patient to a facility that is more qualified to treat the patient.



Wouldn't know, but I have noticed that Progressives don't read laws, they just believe what their leaders tell them about the law. :\

The irony right there is amazing! You were smart enough to find a FAQ sheet and yet you aren't smart enough to understand what it says. I'm glad you seem to think all medical care only happens when it becomes life threatening and would therefore be covered by the emtala. Hopefully you don't just talk the talk and actually live by the bullshit you are putting out because I'd hate to have some poor soul, other than you, wait till an emergency to get free care because they listened to your stupid post,

 

[MagickMan]

The irony right there is amazing!

That word doesn't mean what you think it means, dumbass.

You were smart enough to find a FAQ sheet and yet you aren't smart enough to understand what it says. I'm glad you seem to think all medical care only happens when it becomes life threatening and would therefore be covered by the emtala. Hopefully you don't just talk the talk and actually live by the bullshit you are putting out because I'd hate to have some poor soul, other than you, wait till an emergency to get free care because they listened to your stupid post,

Obviously a stupid fuck like you would go to an ER with a hang nail. It's a good thing there are free clinics for checkups all over the country and in every major city, that service the public regardless of their ability to pay. You ignorant bitches seem to forget those, however. People not knowing the system, or even understanding it, isn't the same as there not being options available, you ignorant twat.

 

[Bowfinger]

No, that's not the law, and it can vary in different states (with even more protections), but thanks for playing.
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You claimed:

"Medical services can't be denied by a patient's inability to pay, that's the law."
​

Your exact words, verbatim. You were wrong, black and white, unequivocal. That still won't change no matter how much you blow or how belligerent you become.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act

 

[MagickMan]

You claimed:

"Medical services can't be denied by a patient's inability to pay, that's the law."
​

Your exact words, verbatim. You were wrong, black and white, unequivocal. That still won't change no matter how much you blow or how belligerent you become.

No, I've already shown where you're wrong, deal with it. :\

 

[Joepublic2]

You don't think uninsured Americans die because they delay treatment until it's too late?

Well to be fair, I think this is a feature, not a bug, in states that denied the medicaid expansion. Poors should be seen and not heard and die quietly in their shanties if they get sick. It's what Jesus would have wanted.