Interesting, I wonder how accurate it is.
Another 10% - 20% of your health insurance costs, not your gross income. And without the cost shifting from young to old.Err wait you think most americans are ok paying 10%-20% more in taxes to cover other americans? IS this a joke? I could stand to pay 3% more to cover kids under 18. I sure as hell am not ok paying 10-20% more. I'm already taxed up the ass being a 29 year older single person making close to six figures. I'm not willing to give up another 10-20k a year. that's insane.
No cost shifting from young to old, no government exchanges, no government mandates about what must be covered and what must be free. No mandated freebies. If you are too stupid to budget the out-of-pocket for regular doctor's visits, then you're going to either go without or drop something else. If insurance companies are required by law to write policies for people with pre-existing health conditions, then everyone's health insurance must get more expensive, but no one's health insurance would double or triple. That comes from social engineering, the desire to punish the successful and subsidize the non-successful until everyone is at the same level of miserable. (Except of course for the elite. And of course their government servants.)So your proposal would be different than Obamacare how exactly?:hmm:
A household with one adult and one child with a $50K annual income gets the tax credit.
OK, in the original source article it says the woman's son qualifies for Medicaid for a $30 a month premium and she loses her subsidy. It looks like doing that and getting a plan for herself or getting one for both of them is a wash at about $400 a month for either option. And she was getting rate quotes of $500-$600 prior to the ACA.
Obama's protracted honeymoon is now officially over...the media is turning. Even if they get the site working reasonably well in the next few weeks, it looks to me like Obamacare is going to be the 'gift that keeps giving' to Republicans the next several years.
Another 10% - 20% of your health insurance costs, not your gross income. And without the cost shifting from young to old.
No cost shifting from young to old, no government exchanges, no government mandates about what must be covered and what must be free. No mandated freebies. If you are too stupid to budget the out-of-pocket for regular doctor's visits, then you're going to either go without or drop something else. If insurance companies are required by law to write policies for people with pre-existing health conditions, then everyone's health insurance must get more expensive, but no one's health insurance would double or triple. That comes from social engineering, the desire to punish the successful and subsidize the non-successful until everyone is at the same level of miserable. (Except of course for the elite. And of course their government servants.)
Cost shifting from young to old is the very purpose of insurance. The old ARE the sick.
It's estimated that the government now spends more than $9000 per elderly person and less than $900 per child each year. The skewed distribution of health care resources, they say, is not only detrimental to the overall health of the society; it is also unjust, because the elderly receive a disproportionately large piece of the health care pie, while a far greater number of younger people are deprived of an equal share of the nation's health care resources.
Moreover, "need" should not be a fundamental criterion for determining how much health care the elderly (or others) are allotted. In the context of constant technological innovations to prolong life at all costs, the "needs" of the elderly know no bounds and drain the pool of resources that ought to be made available to all age groups.
"Eighty percent of the health care dollars are spent by 20 percent of the population."
Bernell said she was even more interested in whittling down that 20 percent, noting again that just 5 percent account for 49 percent of health care expenses.
Wish I could share your optimism on repeal, but I doubt it will happen. I could easily be wrong, but I can't think of any program of this magnitude that has been repealed once it's gone into effect. Repeal would only have a chance of happening if there was a massive rep victory in the senate next year. In spite of undeniable proof that Obama lied repeatedly, that his staff knew all along that this mess was going to happen, and the blatant corruption wrt the botched abortion of a website, there are still over 40% of the people that consider him 'honest' And the bumbling 'stupid party' will find a way of screwing up next fall's elections, so yeah, not holding out hope.
obamacare is a major fail, its just a tax increase in disguise for people who have health care in order to pay for people who cant afford it
Just like car insurance?
Or home owners insurance?
OMG... I just let the cat out of the bag.
Bad me.
Really? You let the cat out of the bag? Can you point to federal legislation which fines me if I don't have car insurance or homeowners insurance?
I think its called REPOSSESSION, CANCELATION, or ARREST.
And certainly no free ride(s).
With this type of thinking by some, I can't believe you just don't walk into a store, take what you want, then walk out.
I mean, who are they to ask you to pay for stuff you need?
Those bastards....
sportage said:PS.
Just buy you're damn insurance and stop crying.
It is called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
My sister had a health "episode" while shopping last month.
No healthcare.
Husband had died last January sudden death. 63 years old.
Employer dropped her insurance because he had died, naturally.
So she was in the ICU after her health episode for 1 week.
Outcome was stated as "grim".
Well... prayer and hope, and she came out of it.
No longterm damage.
Still unknown if ti was a stroke, seizure, or what?
Doctors never found the cause.
So she gets her medical bill this week. $86,000 ICU 1-week NOT including doctor charges (still unknown).
So, this hospital this letter comes, wants to know her asset availability for liquidation.
Her financial situation.
Property values (car, house).
Welcome to healthcare 2013.
Obamacare is not the problem.
Healthcare for profit as usual is the problem.
Obamacare is not the save all, yet, but it is a shot in the right direction.
There are no alternatives, other than more and more of insurance for profit rape.
PS.
Just buy you're damn insurance and stop crying.
It is called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
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That is not legal.
LULZ, Oregon's exchange has never worked and not a single person has subscribed through it:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/20/us-usa-healthcare-oregon-idUSBRE9AJ0ML20131120
... the amount of Medicaid applicants has skyrocketed in proportion to ACA applicants. As much as it originally intended to rely on the young, I think if it's doing nothing but bringing in more medicaid we are in for a shitstorm brewing.
... the amount of Medicaid applicants has skyrocketed in proportion to ACA applicants. As much as it originally intended to rely on the young, I think if it's doing nothing but bringing in more medicaid we are in for a shitstorm brewing.
sportage said:PS.
Just buy you're damn insurance and stop crying.
It is called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
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Just like car insurance?
Or home owners insurance?
OMG... I just let the cat out of the bag.
Bad me.
but isn't medicaid the state's problem?