Yes and how a majority of those stories are fact checked and turn out to be totally bogus. Yes, talking points.
It's ok, getting duped by propaganda is common and it happens to people all over the political spectrum.
I just point it out to you in hope that you don't wish to be a mindless parrot.
...Because the total cost of health care would end up decreasing. People's total out-of-pocket health care costs would be much less as a result of eliminating the inefficiency of insurance companies, private hospitals, and all of the other expensive junk associated with our current health care system.
Let's compare the U.S. health care system with evil socialist systems:
U.S. Health Care system:
- 17% of GDP
- Tens of millions of uninsured and under-insured Americans
- Hundreds of thousands of medical-cost-induced bankruptcies every year.
- A terrified populace.
- Businesses and an economy burdened by health insurance costs and concerns
- Wealthy hospital and insurance company executives.
- A thriving yacht industry (for those wealthy executives).
Evil Evil Socialized Medicine:
- 12% or less of GDP
- 100% full coverage
- Zero medical cost induced bankruptcies
- A contented populace that isn't terrified by health care cost issues.
- Businesses and an economy unburdened by health insurance costs and concerns.
- Far fewer wealthy hospital and insurance company executives (oh, the horror!)
- An emaciated yacht industry (oh the horror!)
...Because the total cost of health care would end up decreasing. People's total out-of-pocket health care costs would be much less as a result of eliminating the inefficiency of insurance companies, private hospitals, and all of the other expensive junk associated with our current health care system.
Let's compare the U.S. health care system with evil socialist systems:
U.S. Health Care system:
- 17% of GDP
- Tens of millions of uninsured and under-insured Americans
- Hundreds of thousands of medical-cost-induced bankruptcies every year.
- A terrified populace.
- Businesses and an economy burdened by health insurance costs and concerns
- Wealthy hospital and insurance company executives.
- A thriving yacht industry (for those wealthy executives).
Evil Evil Socialized Medicine:
- 12% or less of GDP
- 100% full coverage
- Zero medical cost induced bankruptcies
- A contented populace that isn't terrified by health care cost issues.
- Businesses and an economy unburdened by health insurance costs and concerns.
- Far fewer wealthy hospital and insurance company executives (oh, the horror!)
- An emaciated yacht industry (oh the horror!)
They might be providing all sorts of other non-health care benefits. But their health care spending is 12% of GDP or less depending on the country.
"Terrified populace" refers to the prospect of losing your job and thus your health insurance.
That is the Republicans' master stroke. In the Democrats act of trying to improve the health care system, they implemented the Republicans alternative to socialized medicine and now it looks like it was the Democrats idea.
But the Democrats never supported a war in Iraq prior to Bush's coming onto the scene and suggesting. It's not as though the Democrats advocated an Iraqi invasion for years and that Bush just adopted the idea as a compromise when he really wanted to nuke them.
But the Democrats never supported a war in Iraq prior to Bush's coming onto the scene and suggesting. It's not as though the Democrats advocated an Iraqi invasion for years and that Bush just adopted the idea as a compromise when he really wanted to nuke them.
Holy propaganda Batman!
So now it's not just single payer, you want full government takeover of medicine in the US?
Oh please please please please give me a link to a fact check on those?
The partisan hackery is painful!
I've known the problem is price gouging, insurance or no insurance so I was looking into how the different systems worked on a very surface level and it seems like healthcare is a bit like a power monopoly. You need the government to do the negotiating on your behalf to get a fair price.
Medicare hands down gets better prices than private insurance companies do. There is alot of friction between insurance companies settling with hospitals AFAIK (suing back and forth lawyer fees, etc). It seems like its local monopolies, the only XYZ specialty for miles is going to run you $100,000's no matter the actual cost of the procedure and surgeon so it varies by region.
Doctors drop medicare because of the lower payments, but by taking medicare are guaranteed a steady stream of patients. Hospitals are required by law to treat anyone entering the ER and offset the price by gouging on other services and in the end who knows who is really making out. The government should probably negotiate the price on the peoples behalf honestly, medicare style.
If everyone entering the ER were covered it would remove the need to gouge in the first place.
is it? tell us how it feels.
The doctors, nurses, XRay techs, hospital janitors, etc. who are performing the actual work of providing health care are not the problem. The problem is all of the people who earn an income from the health care industry who do not contribute to actually providing health care.
^this.Insurance companies,lobbyists,congressmen,malpractice lawyers.
And so you believe that government run health care has nobody involved who isn't directly involved with providing care? Because government work is always so efficient and there's no expensive bureaucracy?
I never said they voted for it. However, it is their plan. They only opposed it because the Democrats were supporting it.
This is such progressive liberal bullshit. It was one of many plans drawn up by think tanks a quarter of a century ago. It was not the supported plan that Republicans have been pushing, and to keep saying so just shows how intellectually dishonest progressives are, and what lengths they will go to, to deflect from their beloved leaders failure.
You are right, it's not the plan republicans were pushing but that's because they weren't pushing for a particular plan nor are they now. Status quo is their game plan. Do you remember how great the old system was? Do you remember how costs were kept in check? Do you remember how almost everyone had coverage and how the number of people without insurance was shrinking? Or perhaps you remember how no one was denied coverage because of pre existing conditions or dropped off their plans because of coverage caps.
And if you do remember any of that then I'd suggest getting your head checked.
So yeah! You are right but that doesn't make things any better.