Obamarama affecting the muslim world?

nixium

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.. Or maybe it's the effect of the oft-mentioned "stigma" of having 'Hussein' as a middle name, which neo-cons love to bring up. In any case, Obama's popularity in the middle east seems to have shut up the pompous windbags of Al-Quaida's PR department (and soon hopefully, their US right wing counterparts.) Alhamdulillah!

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The short message was in sharp contrast to others issued around the Sept. 11 anniversary. In 2007, al-Qaida marked the anniversary with multiple videos by several of its leaders, including bin Laden's deputy Ayman al-Zawahri. Just last year, it issued a massive 90-minute opus summing up seven years of struggle around the world. Evan Kohlman, a terrorism expert at globalterroralert.com, said al-Qaida appears to have been unable to come up with a way to confront the popularity of the new U.S. president. Obama has pursued a policy of seeking better ties with Arabs and Muslims, giving a landmark speech in Cairo in June, moving to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq and taking a somewhat harder stance on Israel in the peace process.

You have to hand it to Obama - steadily increasing troop levels in Afghanistan, while at the same time holding the Arab world in his thrall. I say this is the perfect strategy to follow; all he has to do is balance the influence of the Israeli lobby and he's all set.



 

OCGuy

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What? The extremists still hate us, and the moderates have nothing to do with the AQ PR department.
 

nageov3t

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the oft-mentioned "stigma" of having 'Hussein' as a middle name, which neo-cons love to bring up.

when and where has a national neo-con figure brought this up?
 

brandonbull

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I've come to learn that when the rest of the world is happy with the US, we are doing something wrong for the US.
 

BarrySotero

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People focused on Obama's "Hussein" name (when he was trying to downplay it) because it was very possible Obama would have more concern for Muslims than Americans. That's proven to be the case as the CIA gets attacked and terrorists get coddled. After the election Obama stopped tying to minimize his Muslim roots and went whole hog trying to gain Muslim favor. His first interview was with Muslim TV. He was bowing to Saudis and dropping charges against USS Cole bombers. Obama threw Israel down the well and made nice nice with Hamas and Syria. It's easy to get Arab approval when you stick a knife in the front of an ally they hate. Interestingly Obama also blew off the moderate Muslims in Iran while rushing (rushing) to aid a Chavez backed wannbe dictato in Honduras. Obama is still supporting the dictator and calling the constitutional defense against the usurper a "coup". America spent 50 years fighting communists and radical Muslims and then a truly lost generation of Americans voted one into office. One of dumbest elections in world history never mind US history.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero
People focused on Obama's "Hussein" name (when he was trying to downplay it) because it was very possible Obama would have more concern for Muslims than Americans. That's proven to be the case as the CIA gets attacked and terrorists get coddled. After the election Obama stopped tying to minimize his Muslim roots and went whole hog trying to gain Muslim favor. His first interview was with Muslim TV. He was bowing to Saudis and dropping charges against USS Cole bombers. Obama threw Israel down the well and made nice nice with Hamas and Syria. It's easy to get Arab approval when you stick a knife in the front of an ally they hate. Interestingly Obama also blew off the moderate Muslims in Iran while rushing (rushing) to aid a Chavez backed wannbe dictato in Honduras. Obama is still supporting the dictator and calling the constitutional defense against the usurper a "coup". America spent 50 years fighting communists and radical Muslims and then a truly lost generation of Americans voted one into office. One of dumbest elections in world history never mind US history.

Thanks Barry, I needed my daily dose of crazy.

Speaking of that, have you had your daily dose of lithium?
 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero
People focused on Obama's "Hussein" name (when he was trying to downplay it) because it was very possible Obama would have more concern for Muslims than Americans. That's proven to be the case as the CIA gets attacked and terrorists get coddled. After the election Obama stopped tying to minimize his Muslim roots and went whole hog trying to gain Muslim favor. His first interview was with Muslim TV. He was bowing to Saudis and dropping charges against USS Cole bombers. Obama threw Israel down the well and made nice nice with Hamas and Syria. It's easy to get Arab approval when you stick a knife in the front of an ally they hate. Interestingly Obama also blew off the moderate Muslims in Iran while rushing (rushing) to aid a Chavez backed wannbe dictato in Honduras. Obama is still supporting the dictator and calling the constitutional defense against the usurper a "coup". America spent 50 years fighting communists and radical Muslims and then a truly lost generation of Americans voted one into office. One of dumbest elections in world history never mind US history.

Wow....just.....wow.



Edit: I'm surprised you couldn't work an Ayers/Wright reference in there...they you would really have the market on crazy in this thread.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: loki8481
the oft-mentioned "stigma" of having 'Hussein' as a middle name, which neo-cons love to bring up.

when and where has a national neo-con figure brought this up?
It has been brought up many, many times here in p&n. You must be new.
 

BarrySotero

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: BarrySotero
People focused on Obama's "Hussein" name (when he was trying to downplay it) because it was very possible Obama would have more concern for Muslims than Americans. That's proven to be the case as the CIA gets attacked and terrorists get coddled. After the election Obama stopped tying to minimize his Muslim roots and went whole hog trying to gain Muslim favor. His first interview was with Muslim TV. He was bowing to Saudis and dropping charges against USS Cole bombers. Obama threw Israel down the well and made nice nice with Hamas and Syria. It's easy to get Arab approval when you stick a knife in the front of an ally they hate. Interestingly Obama also blew off the moderate Muslims in Iran while rushing (rushing) to aid a Chavez backed wannbe dictato in Honduras. Obama is still supporting the dictator and calling the constitutional defense against the usurper a "coup". America spent 50 years fighting communists and radical Muslims and then a truly lost generation of Americans voted one into office. One of dumbest elections in world history never mind US history.

Thanks Barry, I needed my daily dose of crazy.

Speaking of that, have you had your daily dose of lithium?

It's all facts easy to look up. Reality looks crazy to crazy people. The truth feels like hate to those that hate the truth.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero
... Reality looks crazy to crazy people. The truth feels like hate to those that hate the truth.
Tommyrot.

Unless, of course, you have personal experience.
 
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We really don't know if the pompous windbags of AQ have wound down their rhetoric because it's been a couple of days already and there's still no translation of OBL's speech. During his last speech in June he sure had plenty of insults for Obama and I highly doubt that OBL has suddenly seen the light in the few months since.
 

Vic

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The argument that the US is the great white Satan doesn't sell very well after it elects a black man with an African name to be President. It's not that AQ is going to stop, but they're definitely going to have to switch tactics a bit.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero
It's all facts easy to look up. Reality looks crazy to crazy people. The truth feels like hate to those that hate the truth.

When is the last time you accepted as truth/reality something which did not fit into your preconceived agenda?
 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: BarrySotero
People focused on Obama's "Hussein" name (when he was trying to downplay it) because it was very possible Obama would have more concern for Muslims than Americans. That's proven to be the case as the CIA gets attacked and terrorists get coddled. After the election Obama stopped tying to minimize his Muslim roots and went whole hog trying to gain Muslim favor. His first interview was with Muslim TV. He was bowing to Saudis and dropping charges against USS Cole bombers. Obama threw Israel down the well and made nice nice with Hamas and Syria. It's easy to get Arab approval when you stick a knife in the front of an ally they hate. Interestingly Obama also blew off the moderate Muslims in Iran while rushing (rushing) to aid a Chavez backed wannbe dictato in Honduras. Obama is still supporting the dictator and calling the constitutional defense against the usurper a "coup". America spent 50 years fighting communists and radical Muslims and then a truly lost generation of Americans voted one into office. One of dumbest elections in world history never mind US history.

Thanks Barry, I needed my daily dose of crazy.

Speaking of that, have you had your daily dose of lithium?

It's all facts easy to look up. Reality looks crazy to crazy people. The truth feels like hate to those that hate the truth.

Easy to look up here perhaps?
 

tfcmasta97

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: BarrySotero
People focused on Obama's "Hussein" name (when he was trying to downplay it) because it was very possible Obama would have more concern for Muslims than Americans. That's proven to be the case as the CIA gets attacked and terrorists get coddled. After the election Obama stopped tying to minimize his Muslim roots and went whole hog trying to gain Muslim favor. His first interview was with Muslim TV. He was bowing to Saudis and dropping charges against USS Cole bombers. Obama threw Israel down the well and made nice nice with Hamas and Syria. It's easy to get Arab approval when you stick a knife in the front of an ally they hate. Interestingly Obama also blew off the moderate Muslims in Iran while rushing (rushing) to aid a Chavez backed wannbe dictato in Honduras. Obama is still supporting the dictator and calling the constitutional defense against the usurper a "coup". America spent 50 years fighting communists and radical Muslims and then a truly lost generation of Americans voted one into office. One of dumbest elections in world history never mind US history.

Thanks Barry, I needed my daily dose of crazy.

Speaking of that, have you had your daily dose of lithium?

It's all facts easy to look up. Reality looks crazy to crazy people. The truth feels like hate to those that hate the truth.

Dont you love it when calling someone a fucking retard would be giving them too much credit? Not to mention an insult to even the most retarded of those fucking retards, lmao
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: BarrySotero
People focused on Obama's "Hussein" name (when he was trying to downplay it) because it was very possible Obama would have more concern for Muslims than Americans. That's proven to be the case as the CIA gets attacked and terrorists get coddled. After the election Obama stopped tying to minimize his Muslim roots and went whole hog trying to gain Muslim favor. His first interview was with Muslim TV. He was bowing to Saudis and dropping charges against USS Cole bombers. Obama threw Israel down the well and made nice nice with Hamas and Syria. It's easy to get Arab approval when you stick a knife in the front of an ally they hate. Interestingly Obama also blew off the moderate Muslims in Iran while rushing (rushing) to aid a Chavez backed wannbe dictato in Honduras. Obama is still supporting the dictator and calling the constitutional defense against the usurper a "coup". America spent 50 years fighting communists and radical Muslims and then a truly lost generation of Americans voted one into office. One of dumbest elections in world history never mind US history.

Thanks Barry, I needed my daily dose of crazy.

Speaking of that, have you had your daily dose of lithium?

It's all facts easy to look up. Reality looks crazy to crazy people. The truth feels like hate to those that hate the truth.

Nah. Crazy looks like Reality to Crazy people.
 

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Originally posted by: brandonbull
I've come to learn that when the rest of the world is happy with the US, we are doing something wrong for the US.

With that type of insular and narrow-minded thinking, I would suggest that you have come to learn very little over the course of your life.

I assume you voted for Bush as he certainly marked an all time low in terms of US popularity around the world. Do you think that his presidency represents a success story at domestic level whilst failing miserably on the international stage? This, after all, seems to be the crux of your argument.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero

It's all facts easy to look up. Reality looks crazy to crazy people. The truth feels like hate to those that hate the truth.
And crap tastes good to those like you who spew it out of their mouths on a daily basis.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Vic
The argument that the US is the great white Satan doesn't sell very well after it elects a black man with an African name to be President. It's not that AQ is going to stop, but they're definitely going to have to switch tactics a bit.

Hopefully, their capacity to recruit will also suffer in the process.

 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Easy to look up here perhaps?

How the hell do the people who contribute to that wiki get the idea that they are conservatives?

William Buckley would be spinning in his grave if he knew what has become of "conservatism" these days. I don't know how these people think they are conservative....but perhaps it has something to do with them voting GOP for a very long time. I'm not trying to put down conservatism, I'm merely saying that somehow these people got the idea in their heads that only what they think is conservatism.

I used to consider myself conservative, but with people like this around is it any wonder that I avoid that label like the plague?
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero
America spent 50 years fighting communists and radical Muslims and then a truly lost generation of Americans voted one into office.

The saddest/funniest thing about this little racist statement is that Mr. Obama is one of the most devout Christian men to ever assume the U.S. presidency.
 

brandonbull

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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: BarrySotero
America spent 50 years fighting communists and radical Muslims and then a truly lost generation of Americans voted one into office.

The saddest/funniest thing about this little racist statement is that Mr. Obama is one of the most devout Christian men to ever assume the U.S. presidency.

He might be, but seems to have very little moral fiber. He spent years being a "devout Christian" but turned his back on them once there were questions about his church.

 
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