Obama's Academic Records vis-a-vis Political Acumen

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a777pilot

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I do not believe Trump is a serious candidate (I didn't believe Bobo, the Post Turtle was either.) but I sure love his pot stirring.
 

JSt0rm

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So, anyone who questions the great second coming must be a bigot or racist heh? Typical left wing stupidity. I didn't hear any of your sniveling when GWB was called a nazi and war criminal and his motives and integrity questioned. Now that the same standard is applied to the dear leader it's a problem?

shut up
 

wuliheron

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Maybe I am but I thought that the "Yes!" was a perfectly good answer.


A777 for president! He's our man! He's an ex-marine with traditional values who knows everything about how to run the country and is humble to boot!
 

comptr6

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So, anyone who questions the great second coming must be a bigot or racist heh? Typical left wing stupidity. I didn't hear any of your sniveling when GWB was called a nazi and war criminal and his motives and integrity questioned. Now that the same standard is applied to the dear leader it's a problem?

Yeah the hypocrisy of the left is on full view. Why is it racist to question whether Obummer was born in Kenya and if he is a muslim, but calling President Bush a war criminal is perfectly fine?
 

thraashman

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Another thread where I feel compelled to note how Trump has really hit a nerve with Obama supporters.

Fern

You're right. Trump's blatant stupidity while getting constant attention from the press does indeed hit a nerve with intelligent people.
 

a777pilot

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A777 for president! He's our man! He's an ex-marine with traditional values who knows everything about how to run the country and is humble to boot!

I would be a failure as President.

I am not an ex-Marine.

I am not humble.

Other than that, good post.
 

woolfe9999

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The poll poses a somewhat false dichotomy. He could be intelligent *and* still have used affirmative action at one or more stages of his education. I think he's clearly intelligent. Whether he benefited from affirmative action at one or more stages, I simply do not know. But since he's clearly intelligent, I also do not care. If I thought he was an idiot, the issue might have more relevance.
 

Baasha

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Funny so many people assume I'm a "left-winger" after making absurd extrapolations from my post.

The ultimate point is that people who question Obama's character instead of his policies, whether domestic or foreign, are one of two things; too stupid to understand the policies and their ramifications both short and long term or, they are simply disdainful towards him as a person. If it isn't race, then it's his upbringing that seems dubious. If it isn't that, then it's his education. If it isn't that, then it's his associations and acquaintances. The point being hateful people will simply find another excuse to spew their nonsense.

As I mentioned in another thread some months ago, to prove whether most of the people who don't like Obama do so because of his race, go back to the 2008 elections. When you take a candidate like McCain, a dunce from the Navy who was good at flip-flopping and marrying into wealth and compare him to a Magna Cum Laude graduate of Harvard Law, the intelligence of both candidates are antipodal in nature. If you switch the situation and have a black man who is a dunce from the Navy and a white man who graduates Magna Cum Laude from Harvard, do you think the black would have received ~48 million votes because of the "issues" he supports? There is the proof that Obama's election to the presidency of the USA was a tectonic shift in the collective conscience of the American people.

A leader of any group, city, county, state, and eventually nation, is supposed to be natively intelligent, unlike junior Bush. The obvious choice was Obama not so much because he was a Harvard graduate, but because his native intelligence would enable him to grasp the issues, deconstruct them logically, and eventually come up with solutions that are in the best interest of the nation. Now, the last part of that statement can be legitimately questioned; in other words, does Obama's loyalty lie completely with the interests of the USA or are they generally geared towards the betterment of all people regardless of nationality. However egalitarian that attitude may be, the American public is far too stupid to appreciate such a stand. This is obviously why Reagan was considered a "great" president despite falling asleep at important meetings and making vacuous remarks publicly.

Obama's oratory skills as well as his apparent cognitive acuity have been proven through his graduation from Harvard Law School. It is done. There is no benefit to either side by bringing up such trivialities in order to deconstruct the man instead of his policies. For people who cannot tolerate the fact that Obama, a half-black man, as President of the USA, they are incessant in their efforts to invalidate his candidacy and Presidency by whatever means necessary. Instead of discussing substantive issues that plague the psyche of the commoner, shitheads like Trump, who gives two hoots about the average American, engage in absolute balderdash.

People who are supposed to question the president's policies in a cogent manner asking important questions and challenging them in places like the Congress are instead using the media to debase the man, his family, and question the veracity of his background. This same trope was applied when goons like Limbaugh kept repeating 'Hussein Obama' in order to dissuade voters from voting for "that Muslim" instead of explaining to his audience why a Democratic president would make matters worse for this country. The travesty is that such dunderheads as Limbaugh, Beck et. al make tens of millions of dollars a year spewing this vitriol and creating a fissure within the American psyche.

And to those who think getting into Harvard is easy, think again. Harvard Law School is the top law school in the world. The competition to get in is absolutely insane and once you get in, your connections and affirmative action won't let you graduate, especially with a Magna Cum Laude. How do I know? My cousin is a Summa Cum Laude graduate from Harvard Law School and makes $$$$ at a top law firm in California. She has stated unequivocally that Harvard Law School curriculum takes no prisoners and the competition involved in getting into the Harvard Law Review, let alone being elected as President of it, is no small feat.

It is indeed funny that Trump is making all this noise. If the GOP is dumb enough to nominate him for the 2012 election, Obama will certainly have the last laugh.
 

wuliheron

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I would be a failure as President.

I am not an ex-Marine.

I am not humble.

Other than that, good post.


Do you have any other qualifications for being president? They're all failures anyway so that doesn't matter.
 

a777pilot

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Do you have any other qualifications for being president? They're all failures anyway so that doesn't matter.

I believe I have broken every one of the Ten Commandments. That ought to qualify me for some office. Maybe Attorney General?
 

wuliheron

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I believe I have broken every one of the Ten Commandments. That ought to qualify me for some office. Maybe Attorney General?


Yeah, everything from the secretary of the treasury on up requires 10 commandments. Secretary of education only requires 8 and everything in between requires 9 broken commandments. For president you also have to do some unmentionable things with goats, but that's merely a formality.
 

jackstar7

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Yeah the hypocrisy of the left is on full view. Why is it racist to question whether Obummer was born in Kenya and if he is a muslim, but calling President Bush a war criminal is perfectly fine?

Maybe this will help.

Why would people think President Obama is from Kenya or a Muslim? Where does that start? Could it be any more personal and have less to do with his performance as a world leader?

With regards to President Bush, that's precisely about his performance as a world leader. It is hyperbolically inflated, but it's still not based on how he looks or the sound of his name.
 

jonks

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Funny so many people assume I'm a "left-winger" after making absurd extrapolations from my post.

The ultimate point is that people who question Obama's character instead of his policies, whether domestic or foreign, are one of two things; too stupid to understand the policies and their ramifications both short and long term or, they are simply disdainful towards him as a person. If it isn't race, then it's his upbringing that seems dubious. If it isn't that, then it's his education. If it isn't that, then it's his associations and acquaintances. The point being hateful people will simply find another excuse to spew their nonsense.

As I mentioned in another thread some months ago, to prove whether most of the people who don't like Obama do so because of his race, go back to the 2008 elections. When you take a candidate like McCain, a dunce from the Navy who was good at flip-flopping and marrying into wealth and compare him to a Magna Cum Laude graduate of Harvard Law, the intelligence of both candidates are antipodal in nature. If you switch the situation and have a black man who is a dunce from the Navy and a white man who graduates Magna Cum Laude from Harvard, do you think the black would have received ~48 million votes because of the "issues" he supports? There is the proof that Obama's election to the presidency of the USA was a tectonic shift in the collective conscience of the American people.

A leader of any group, city, county, state, and eventually nation, is supposed to be natively intelligent, unlike junior Bush. The obvious choice was Obama not so much because he was a Harvard graduate, but because his native intelligence would enable him to grasp the issues, deconstruct them logically, and eventually come up with solutions that are in the best interest of the nation. Now, the last part of that statement can be legitimately questioned; in other words, does Obama's loyalty lie completely with the interests of the USA or are they generally geared towards the betterment of all people regardless of nationality. However egalitarian that attitude may be, the American public is far too stupid to appreciate such a stand. This is obviously why Reagan was considered a "great" president despite falling asleep at important meetings and making vacuous remarks publicly.

Obama's oratory skills as well as his apparent cognitive acuity have been proven through his graduation from Harvard Law School. It is done. There is no benefit to either side by bringing up such trivialities in order to deconstruct the man instead of his policies. For people who cannot tolerate the fact that Obama, a half-black man, as President of the USA, they are incessant in their efforts to invalidate his candidacy and Presidency by whatever means necessary. Instead of discussing substantive issues that plague the psyche of the commoner, shitheads like Trump, who gives two hoots about the average American, engage in absolute balderdash.

People who are supposed to question the president's policies in a cogent manner asking important questions and challenging them in places like the Congress are instead using the media to debase the man, his family, and question the veracity of his background. This same trope was applied when goons like Limbaugh kept repeating 'Hussein Obama' in order to dissuade voters from voting for "that Muslim" instead of explaining to his audience why a Democratic president would make matters worse for this country. The travesty is that such dunderheads as Limbaugh, Beck et. al make tens of millions of dollars a year spewing this vitriol and creating a fissure within the American psyche.

And to those who think getting into Harvard is easy, think again. Harvard Law School is the top law school in the world. The competition to get in is absolutely insane and once you get in, your connections and affirmative action won't let you graduate, especially with a Magna Cum Laude. How do I know? My cousin is a Summa Cum Laude graduate from Harvard Law School and makes $$$$ at a top law firm in California. She has stated unequivocally that Harvard Law School curriculum takes no prisoners and the competition involved in getting into the Harvard Law Review, let alone being elected as President of it, is no small feat.

It is indeed funny that Trump is making all this noise. If the GOP is dumb enough to nominate him for the 2012 election, Obama will certainly have the last laugh.

I see your mistake. You're trying to apply reason to convince the irrational and intentionally obtuse. You will be doomed to frustration.
 

M0RPH

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And to those who think getting into Harvard is easy, think again. Harvard Law School is the top law school in the world. The competition to get in is absolutely insane and once you get in, your connections and affirmative action won't let you graduate, especially with a Magna Cum Laude. How do I know? My cousin is a Summa Cum Laude graduate from Harvard Law School and makes $$$$ at a top law firm in California. She has stated unequivocally that Harvard Law School curriculum takes no prisoners and the competition involved in getting into the Harvard Law Review, let alone being elected as President of it, is no small feat.
We know it's hard to get into Harvard Law, that's why we are wondering if Obama really had the grades or if he skated in due to his racial status. Despite the silly wording in this poll, nobody really thinks Obama is stupid. But it seems to me maybe things have come easier for him throughout his life. Lackluster high school grades yet gets a full scholarship to Occidental. Possibly lackluster undergraduate grades but slides right into Harvard Law. What about the guy that got displaced and probably worked harder and had higher grades? Obama's election to president also has an affirmative action sort of vibe to it. So many people loved the idea of this guy being the first black president. The media adored him. Again, things seeming to come easier for him.
It is indeed funny that Trump is making all this noise. If the GOP is dumb enough to nominate him for the 2012 election, Obama will certainly have the last laugh.
It's highly doubtful Trump will land the nomination just because, unlike Obama who gets the 'golden boy' treatment by the media, Trump will get the opposite media treatment. They'll treat him as a buffoon any chance they get.

And it doesn't matter anyway, nobody is going to beat the incumbent Obama. At least if Trump is the candidate it would be entertaining though.
 

Carmen813

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Another thread where I feel compelled to note how Trump has really hit a nerve with Obama supporters.

Fern

He did make me laugh. I'll give him that.

They should put a picture of Trump next to the dictionary definition of narcissism.

As for the OP, I don't care how Obama got into Harvard. By all accounts he excelled as a student there. If it was due to Affirmative Action, he is just an example of how beneficiaries have a greater desire to excel...and often do.
 
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