Obama's nanny the tranny

[werepossum]

Have to admit I would not employ a tranny nanny, although I suppose if I had known him/her/it for a long time and had established trust, maybe. I can't really conceive of it happening though. Still, I can't see why it's news or politics. We already knew his mom was a raging leftist, the kind of person who would adore the idea of a tranny nanny (not to mention appreciating a good bargain, and I'm betting tranny nannies don't exactly command top dollar in Indonesia.) And it doesn't seem to have warped the Messiah. I see he made the first openly transgendered federal appointee, but I don't know enough about him/her/it to judge whether or not that's warped. He/she/it may be the best and most qualified Commerce Department senior technical adviser in the history of Commerce Department senior technical advisers for all I know, so I'll withhold judgment until the extremely unlikely event that I actually learn something material about him/her/it.

That Indonesia tends to murder its trannies, evidently with government sanction if not actual participation, would seem to be, if not exactly news, at least something current to discuss. Don't murder trannies, m'kay? Murdering trannies is bad, m'kay?

 

[europhoric calm]

What the fuck?!

I have mental health problems, I am mentally ill. There is no reason whatsoever that I cannot take care of a child.

It's like saying "Would you let someone with diabetes look after your child" It's a moronic statement to make, it's intolerance like this that make problems for those with mental illnesses. For shame.

Diabetes and gender identity disorder are not comparable illnesses. The latter causes gross delusions and affects behavior, while the former does not.

 

[HAL9000]

Diabetes and gender identity disorder are not comparable illnesses. The latter causes gross delusions and affects behavior, while the former does not.

I didn't realise you were an expert on gender identity disorder.

In any event you said "mental illness".

AFAIK gender identity disorder doesn't result in gross delusions

You can't write off people for things because they have mental health problems.

 

[Capt Caveman]

The main point here is that Obama's mother went out of her way to choose a transvestite to raise her son. This is bizarre.

Link?

 

[soundforbjt]

Diabetes and gender identity disorder are not comparable illnesses. The latter causes gross delusions and affects behavior, while the former does not.

And your qualifications to make this statements are?

 

[europhoric calm]

I didn't realise you were an expert on gender identity disorder.

In any event you said "mental illness".

AFAIK gender identity disorder doesn't result in gross delusions

You can't write off people for things because they have mental health problems.

A man thinking he's really a woman is a gross delusion.

 

[europhoric calm]

Link?

It's the OP. In a country of 240 million, Stanley Obama could've easily found a nanny that wasn't transgender. This is obvious and doesn't require proof.

 

[waggy]

ohh gee. ok thanks for letting us know. i won't vote for his nanny now.

 

[polarmystery]

Every once in awhile it's nice to see a post where the author reveals much more about himself than he does about the news he's bringing in.

Thanks for letting us know that you're a horrible person by thinking that someone hiring a transgender person would make you a 'nutcase'.

exactly what I was thinking. What a douche.

 

[HAL9000]

A man thinking he's really a woman is a gross delusion.

Why? Some transgender people actually have a different chromosome set other people in their gender, it's not delusional, human psychology involves no absolutes.

Mental illness does not make you a less capable parent / baby sitter / president / doctor or (x)

 

[Skitzer]

The main point here is that Obama's mother went out of her way to choose a transvestite to raise her son. This is bizarre.

Where does it say she went out of her way to hire him?
"Dunham was so impressed by Evie's beef steak and fried rice that she offered her a job in the family home. It didn't take long before Evie also was 8-year-old Barry's caretaker, playing with him and bringing him to and from school.
Neighbors recalled that they often saw Evie leave the house in the evening fully made up and dressed in drag. But she says it's doubtful Barry ever knew."
Where does it say she even knew about his sexual orientation?
Looks like a very vague article which is mostly about him and the plight of transgendered people in Indonesia and not about the Obama household to me.
You are making a lot of assumptions which may or not be true don't you think?

 

[Capt Caveman]

It's the OP. In a country of 240 million, Stanley Obama could've easily found a nanny that wasn't transgender. This is obvious and doesn't require proof.

No it doesn't, troll. What is your other username?

And who cares. Based on your posts, Obama came out more normal than you.

 

[Skitzer]

It's the OP. In a country of 240 million, Stanley Obama could've easily found a nanny that wasn't transgender. This is obvious and doesn't require proof.

Indonesia population in 1969 was 114,778,80. Also since you seem to know, where in Indonesia did they live?

 

[Jaepheth]

It's the OP. In a country of 240 million, Stanley Obama could've easily found a nanny that wasn't transgender. This is obvious and doesn't require proof.

Hiring someone few others are willing to hire gives you tremendous leverage when negotiating salary. That's some hardline right-wing capitalism there.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

but was (s)he hot?

 

[DirthNader]

Every once in awhile it's nice to see a post where the author reveals much more about himself than he does about the news he's bringing in.

Thanks for letting us know that you're a horrible person by thinking that someone hiring a transgender person would make you a 'nutcase'.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[fskimospy]

It's the OP. In a country of 240 million, Stanley Obama could've easily found a nanny that wasn't transgender. This is obvious and doesn't require proof.

Let's say the nanny was 5'1". In a nation of 240 million people Obama's mother could've easily found a nanny that wasn't 5'1". Therefore she must have gone out of her way to choose a nanny of this exact height.

This is obvious and doesn't require proof.

 

[soundforbjt]

Originally Posted by europhoric calm
Diabetes and gender identity disorder are not comparable illnesses. The latter causes gross delusions and affects behavior, while the former does not.

And your qualifications to make this statements are?

Still waiting....

 

[werepossum]

Why? Some transgender people actually have a different chromosome set other people in their gender, it's not delusional, human psychology involves no absolutes.

Mental illness does not make you a less capable parent / baby sitter / president / doctor or (x)

I'd argue that mental illness does make you a less capable parent / baby sitter / president / doctor or (x). Otherwise it wouldn't really be an illness, would it? I'd pick a tranny nanny before someone with mental illness, with the understanding that the term mental illness covers a wide variety of things from mild depression to dangerous psychoses. Nothing personal dude, I like you, but mental illness is not a desirable trait in a nanny or baby sitter. Same with a doctor or a President; all things considered I'd vote Democrat before I'd vote for a President with mental illness. (Not that child care is quite as stressful as being President.) And while being transgender might be a mental illness (or it could also be screwed up genes or a serious hormonal disorder) it's more benign than mental illness taken as a whole. I've heard of people becoming really depressed and killing children; I don't believe I've ever heard of anyone becoming so transgender that they killed.

 

[werepossum]

but was (s)he hot?

lol +1

 

[HAL9000]

I'd argue that mental illness does make you a less capable parent / baby sitter / president / doctor or (x). Otherwise it wouldn't really be an illness, would it?

Sure it would, E.g. Diabetes is an illness but it doesn't mean I'm a a worse doctor.

All illnesses don't result in less capable parents etc.

I'd pick a tranny nanny before someone with mental illness, with the understanding that the term mental illness covers a wide variety of things from mild depression to dangerous psychoses. Nothing personal dude, I like you, but mental illness is not a desirable trait in a nanny or baby sitter. Same with a doctor or a President; all things considered I'd vote Democrat before I'd vote for a President with mental illness. (Not that child care is quite as stressful as being President.) And while being transgender might be a mental illness (or it could also be screwed up genes or a serious hormonal disorder) it's more benign than mental illness taken as a whole. I've heard of people becoming really depressed and killing children; I don't believe I've ever heard of anyone becoming so transgender that they killed.

More people have mental illnesses than you know, you can't write off an entire subset of people e because of their health it's exactly the same as saying you wouldn't employ a baby sitter with a physical health problem, given that physical health problems range from a cut finger to full brain death.

 

[fskimospy]

I'd argue that mental illness does make you a less capable parent / baby sitter / president / doctor or (x). Otherwise it wouldn't really be an illness, would it? I'd pick a tranny nanny before someone with mental illness, with the understanding that the term mental illness covers a wide variety of things from mild depression to dangerous psychoses. Nothing personal dude, I like you, but mental illness is not a desirable trait in a nanny or baby sitter. Same with a doctor or a President; all things considered I'd vote Democrat before I'd vote for a President with mental illness. (Not that child care is quite as stressful as being President.) And while being transgender might be a mental illness (or it could also be screwed up genes or a serious hormonal disorder) it's more benign than mental illness taken as a whole. I've heard of people becoming really depressed and killing children; I don't believe I've ever heard of anyone becoming so transgender that they killed.

Really it all depends on what the illness is. Clearly a schizophrenic would make a terrible nanny, but sleep disorders and phobias are types of mental illness as well. Depending on severity I really wouldn't have an issue with my nanny grinding her teeth at night or her being scared of heights.

 

[yllus]

As it turned out, she was pretty good at it, making her way into the kitchens of several high-ranking officials by the time she was a teenager, she recalls with a smile and a wink. And so it was, at a cocktail party in 1969, that she met Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, who had arrived in the country two years earlier after marrying her second husband, Indonesian Lolo Soetoro.

Dunham was so impressed by Evie's beef steak and fried rice that she offered her a job in the family home. It didn't take long before Evie also was 8-year-old Barry's caretaker, playing with him and bringing him to and from school.

Neighbors recalled that they often saw Evie leave the house in the evening fully made up and dressed in drag. But she says it's doubtful Barry ever knew.

"He was so young," says Evie. "And I never let him see me wearing women's clothes. But he did see me trying on his mother's lipstick, sometimes. That used to really crack him up."

President Obama's mother appears to have hired the woman based on her ability to cook. Imagine that - hiring somebody to do a job while respecting their personal boundaries and not poking into their business. Rather admirable really, especially given the time period.

 

[HAL9000]

Really it all depends on what the illness is. Clearly a schizophrenic would make a terrible nanny, but sleep disorders and phobias are types of mental illness as well. Depending on severity I really wouldn't have an issue with my nanny grinding her teeth at night or her being scared of heights.

I know a schizophrenic that would make a great nanny, it depends on the severity of the condition.

 

[fskimospy]

I know a schizophrenic that would make a great nanny, it depends on the severity of the condition.

Most definitely.