Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
All the Loons hang out at that Blogsite I see.
I really don't see what is objectionable to what Obama said.
There's nothing objectionable to it except that, in the US, war is another govt entitlement program, and Obama is telling the recipients of this particular form of socialist welfare that he is going to reform it. That would be bad enough if we were talking social security or similar, except that the people on the war dole have been brainwashed into believing that they're not on the dole (as though their paychecks came from something other than our tax dollars). Quite the opposite, they fancy themselves fighters of freedom and proponents of small govt. It's tragic.
Originally posted by: Conky
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
All the Loons hang out at that Blogsite I see.
I really don't see what is objectionable to what Obama said.
There's nothing objectionable to it except that, in the US, war is another govt entitlement program, and Obama is telling the recipients of this particular form of socialist welfare that he is going to reform it. That would be bad enough if we were talking social security or similar, except that the people on the war dole have been brainwashed into believing that they're not on the dole (as though their paychecks came from something other than our tax dollars). Quite the opposite, they fancy themselves fighters of freedom and proponents of small govt. It's tragic.
So, you are against people in the military?
Whether you are happy with the idea or not, these are the people that defend our country and they are immune from party politics, you incredibly stupid asshole.
People as stupid as you, Vic, should be forced to live in some fucked place like Venezuela so you can appreciate what you have. Then you can jerk off on Cesar Chavez pics while living like a peasant.
Damn, don't even try to blame the alcohol.. you just suck Vic.
Are you fucking kidding?Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Conky
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
All the Loons hang out at that Blogsite I see.
I really don't see what is objectionable to what Obama said.
There's nothing objectionable to it except that, in the US, war is another govt entitlement program, and Obama is telling the recipients of this particular form of socialist welfare that he is going to reform it. That would be bad enough if we were talking social security or similar, except that the people on the war dole have been brainwashed into believing that they're not on the dole (as though their paychecks came from something other than our tax dollars). Quite the opposite, they fancy themselves fighters of freedom and proponents of small govt. It's tragic.
So, you are against people in the military?
Whether you are happy with the idea or not, these are the people that defend our country and they are immune from party politics, you incredibly stupid asshole.
People as stupid as you, Vic, should be forced to live in some fucked place like Venezuela so you can appreciate what you have. Then you can jerk off on Cesar Chavez pics while living like a peasant.
Damn, don't even try to blame the alcohol.. you just suck Vic.
Cry some more.
Originally posted by: Conky
Are you fucking kidding?Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Conky
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
All the Loons hang out at that Blogsite I see.
I really don't see what is objectionable to what Obama said.
There's nothing objectionable to it except that, in the US, war is another govt entitlement program, and Obama is telling the recipients of this particular form of socialist welfare that he is going to reform it. That would be bad enough if we were talking social security or similar, except that the people on the war dole have been brainwashed into believing that they're not on the dole (as though their paychecks came from something other than our tax dollars). Quite the opposite, they fancy themselves fighters of freedom and proponents of small govt. It's tragic.
So, you are against people in the military?
Whether you are happy with the idea or not, these are the people that defend our country and they are immune from party politics, you incredibly stupid asshole.
People as stupid as you, Vic, should be forced to live in some fucked place like Venezuela so you can appreciate what you have. Then you can jerk off on Cesar Chavez pics while living like a peasant.
Damn, don't even try to blame the alcohol.. you just suck Vic.
Cry some more.
Did you bother to read any of that?
You assholes and your games. :laugh:Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Conky
Are you fucking kidding?Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Conky
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
All the Loons hang out at that Blogsite I see.
I really don't see what is objectionable to what Obama said.
There's nothing objectionable to it except that, in the US, war is another govt entitlement program, and Obama is telling the recipients of this particular form of socialist welfare that he is going to reform it. That would be bad enough if we were talking social security or similar, except that the people on the war dole have been brainwashed into believing that they're not on the dole (as though their paychecks came from something other than our tax dollars). Quite the opposite, they fancy themselves fighters of freedom and proponents of small govt. It's tragic.
So, you are against people in the military?
Whether you are happy with the idea or not, these are the people that defend our country and they are immune from party politics, you incredibly stupid asshole.
People as stupid as you, Vic, should be forced to live in some fucked place like Venezuela so you can appreciate what you have. Then you can jerk off on Cesar Chavez pics while living like a peasant.
Damn, don't even try to blame the alcohol.. you just suck Vic.
Cry some more.
Did you bother to read any of that?
Did you?
Originally posted by: Conky
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
All the Loons hang out at that Blogsite I see.
I really don't see what is objectionable to what Obama said.
There's nothing objectionable to it except that, in the US, war is another govt entitlement program, and Obama is telling the recipients of this particular form of socialist welfare that he is going to reform it. That would be bad enough if we were talking social security or similar, except that the people on the war dole have been brainwashed into believing that they're not on the dole (as though their paychecks came from something other than our tax dollars). Quite the opposite, they fancy themselves fighters of freedom and proponents of small govt. It's tragic.
So, you are against people in the military?
Whether you are happy with the idea or not, these are the people that defend our country and they are immune from party politics, you incredibly stupid asshole.
People as stupid as you, Vic, should be forced to live in some fucked place like Venezuela so you can appreciate what you have. Then you can jerk off on Cesar Chavez pics while living like a peasant.
Damn, don't even try to blame the alcohol.. you just suck Vic.
When will we learn? - part 1
Posted: September 12, 2001
1:00 am Eastern
By Harry Browne
© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com
The terrorist attacks against America comprise a horrible tragedy. But they shouldn't be a surprise.
It is well known that in war, the first casualty is truth ? that during any war truth is forsaken for propaganda. But sanity was a prior casualty: it was the loss of sanity that led to war in the first place.
Our foreign policy has been insane for decades. It was only a matter of time until Americans would have to suffer personally for it. It is a terrible tragedy of life that the innocent so often have to suffer for the sins of the guilty.
When will we learn that we can't allow our politicians to bully the world without someone bullying back eventually?
President Bush has authorized continued bombing of innocent people in Iraq. President Clinton bombed innocent people in the Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Serbia. President Bush, senior, invaded Iraq and Panama. President Reagan bombed innocent people in Libya and invaded Grenada. And on and on it goes.
Did we think the people who lost their families and friends and property in all that destruction would love America for what happened?
When will we learn that violence always begets violence?
Teaching lessons
Supposedly, Reagan bombed Libya to teach Muammar al-Qaddafi a lesson about terrorism. But shortly thereafter a TWA plane was destroyed over Scotland, and our government is convinced it was Libyans who did it.
When will we learn that "teaching someone a lesson" never teaches anything but resentment ? that it only inspires the recipient to greater acts of defiance.
How many times on Tuesday did we hear someone describe the terrorist attacks as "cowardly acts"? But as misguided and despicable as they were, they were anything but cowardly. The people who committed them knowingly gave their lives for whatever stupid beliefs they held.
But what about the American presidents who order bombings of innocent people ? while the presidents remain completely insulated from any danger? What would you call their acts?
When will we learn that forsaking truth and reason in the heat of battle almost always assures that we will lose the battle?
Losing our last freedoms
And now, as sure as night follows day, we will be told we must give up more of our freedoms to avenge what never should have happened in the first place.
When will we learn that it makes no sense to give up our freedoms in the name of freedom?
What to do?
What should be done?
First of all, stop the hysteria. Stand back and ask how this could have happened. Ask how a prosperous country isolated by two oceans could have so embroiled itself in other people's business that someone would want to do us harm. Even sitting in the middle of Europe, Switzerland isn't beset by terrorist attacks, because the Swiss mind their own business.
Second, resolve that we won't let our leaders use this occasion to commit their own terrorist acts upon more innocent people, foreign and domestic, that will inspire more terrorist attacks in the future.
Third, find a way, with enforceable constitutional limits, to prevent our leaders from ever again provoking this kind of anger against America.
Patriotism?
There are those who will say this article is unpatriotic and un-American ? that this is not a time to question our country or our leaders.
When will we learn that without freedom and sanity, there is no reason to be patriotic?
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Conky
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
All the Loons hang out at that Blogsite I see.
I really don't see what is objectionable to what Obama said.
There's nothing objectionable to it except that, in the US, war is another govt entitlement program, and Obama is telling the recipients of this particular form of socialist welfare that he is going to reform it. That would be bad enough if we were talking social security or similar, except that the people on the war dole have been brainwashed into believing that they're not on the dole (as though their paychecks came from something other than our tax dollars). Quite the opposite, they fancy themselves fighters of freedom and proponents of small govt. It's tragic.
So, you are against people in the military?
Whether you are happy with the idea or not, these are the people that defend our country and they are immune from party politics, you incredibly stupid asshole.
People as stupid as you, Vic, should be forced to live in some fucked place like Venezuela so you can appreciate what you have. Then you can jerk off on Cesar Chavez pics while living like a peasant.
Damn, don't even try to blame the alcohol.. you just suck Vic.
Hey, pal, you're the socialist big govt lover who belongs in Venezuelan jerking off to pics of Cesar Chavez, not me. My only problem is that your kind of idiot is always in denial of this, while my taxes gotta keep paying for your entitlement socialism.
And I fully and completely appreciate the people who defend our country. But once again, you're not one of them, asshole. You're just some pathetic armchair quarterback.
Originally posted by: Vic
When Will We Learn? by Harry Browne, September 12, 2001
When will we learn? - part 1
Posted: September 12, 2001
1:00 am Eastern
By Harry Browne
© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com
The terrorist attacks against America comprise a horrible tragedy. But they shouldn't be a surprise.
It is well known that in war, the first casualty is truth ? that during any war truth is forsaken for propaganda. But sanity was a prior casualty: it was the loss of sanity that led to war in the first place.
Our foreign policy has been insane for decades. It was only a matter of time until Americans would have to suffer personally for it. It is a terrible tragedy of life that the innocent so often have to suffer for the sins of the guilty.
When will we learn that we can't allow our politicians to bully the world without someone bullying back eventually?
President Bush has authorized continued bombing of innocent people in Iraq. President Clinton bombed innocent people in the Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Serbia. President Bush, senior, invaded Iraq and Panama. President Reagan bombed innocent people in Libya and invaded Grenada. And on and on it goes.
Did we think the people who lost their families and friends and property in all that destruction would love America for what happened?
When will we learn that violence always begets violence?
Teaching lessons
Supposedly, Reagan bombed Libya to teach Muammar al-Qaddafi a lesson about terrorism. But shortly thereafter a TWA plane was destroyed over Scotland, and our government is convinced it was Libyans who did it.
When will we learn that "teaching someone a lesson" never teaches anything but resentment ? that it only inspires the recipient to greater acts of defiance.
How many times on Tuesday did we hear someone describe the terrorist attacks as "cowardly acts"? But as misguided and despicable as they were, they were anything but cowardly. The people who committed them knowingly gave their lives for whatever stupid beliefs they held.
But what about the American presidents who order bombings of innocent people ? while the presidents remain completely insulated from any danger? What would you call their acts?
When will we learn that forsaking truth and reason in the heat of battle almost always assures that we will lose the battle?
Losing our last freedoms
And now, as sure as night follows day, we will be told we must give up more of our freedoms to avenge what never should have happened in the first place.
When will we learn that it makes no sense to give up our freedoms in the name of freedom?
What to do?
What should be done?
First of all, stop the hysteria. Stand back and ask how this could have happened. Ask how a prosperous country isolated by two oceans could have so embroiled itself in other people's business that someone would want to do us harm. Even sitting in the middle of Europe, Switzerland isn't beset by terrorist attacks, because the Swiss mind their own business.
Second, resolve that we won't let our leaders use this occasion to commit their own terrorist acts upon more innocent people, foreign and domestic, that will inspire more terrorist attacks in the future.
Third, find a way, with enforceable constitutional limits, to prevent our leaders from ever again provoking this kind of anger against America.
Patriotism?
There are those who will say this article is unpatriotic and un-American ? that this is not a time to question our country or our leaders.
When will we learn that without freedom and sanity, there is no reason to be patriotic?
Originally posted by: Conky
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Conky
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
All the Loons hang out at that Blogsite I see.
I really don't see what is objectionable to what Obama said.
There's nothing objectionable to it except that, in the US, war is another govt entitlement program, and Obama is telling the recipients of this particular form of socialist welfare that he is going to reform it. That would be bad enough if we were talking social security or similar, except that the people on the war dole have been brainwashed into believing that they're not on the dole (as though their paychecks came from something other than our tax dollars). Quite the opposite, they fancy themselves fighters of freedom and proponents of small govt. It's tragic.
So, you are against people in the military?
Whether you are happy with the idea or not, these are the people that defend our country and they are immune from party politics, you incredibly stupid asshole.
People as stupid as you, Vic, should be forced to live in some fucked place like Venezuela so you can appreciate what you have. Then you can jerk off on Cesar Chavez pics while living like a peasant.
Damn, don't even try to blame the alcohol.. you just suck Vic.
Hey, pal, you're the socialist big govt lover who belongs in Venezuelan jerking off to pics of Cesar Chavez, not me. My only problem is that your kind of idiot is always in denial of this, while my taxes gotta keep paying for your entitlement socialism.
And I fully and completely appreciate the people who defend our country. But once again, you're not one of them, asshole. You're just some pathetic armchair quarterback.
Vic, it's too bad you can never commit to any of your stupid ass statements. Again, I feel like I am trying to fight a 4 yr old(and his 4 yr old socialist friends, lol).
read my sig kids, lol.