Observation: Lack of coverage on the murder by nut job at holocaust museum

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Patranus

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: OCguy
It is only the biggest story of the day because of how brainwashed Americans are.
All of the gang murders today = not national news
One murder = national news
The neo-nazi storyline is much more interesting than all the Mexican V Black crime.

The funniest part of that statement is that O'Reily HAS covered those issued in depth sever times...and probably many more as I do not catch the sow consistently but have seen several programs dedicated to the issue of Mexican violence in cities especially in border towns.

Where is MSNBC and CNN?

I'm not sure Bill O'Reilly is covering it out of a sense of journalistic integrity or intellectual honesty so much as it's a story that fits nicely into HIS worldview. And more importantly, it's the type of story his audience wants to hear. News is ultimately about getting eyeballs, because news is a business more than anything else. And O'Reilly shows his viewers are, by and large, going to be enthusiastic about anti-Mexican stories. He doesn't cover them because it's good journalism, he covers them because his viewers are racist.

Sounds like someone is truly predigest....


...You do realize his show is the highest rated cable news show on TV.....
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: OCguy
It is only the biggest story of the day because of how brainwashed Americans are.
All of the gang murders today = not national news
One murder = national news
The neo-nazi storyline is much more interesting than all the Mexican V Black crime.

The funniest part of that statement is that O'Reily HAS covered those issued in depth sever times...and probably many more as I do not catch the sow consistently but have seen several programs dedicated to the issue of Mexican violence in cities especially in border towns.

Where is MSNBC and CNN?

I'm not sure Bill O'Reilly is covering it out of a sense of journalistic integrity or intellectual honesty so much as it's a story that fits nicely into HIS worldview. And more importantly, it's the type of story his audience wants to hear. News is ultimately about getting eyeballs, because news is a business more than anything else. And O'Reilly shows his viewers are, by and large, going to be enthusiastic about anti-Mexican stories. He doesn't cover them because it's good journalism, he covers them because his viewers are racist.

Sounds like someone is truly predigest....


...You do realize his show is the highest rated cable news show on TV.....

Totally meaningless. Not thatt I agree that his Viewers are all Racist, but Ratings don't equal Quality(as yoou seem to imply everytime you post that tidbit of trivia).
 

Patranus

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Apr 15, 2007
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: OCguy
It is only the biggest story of the day because of how brainwashed Americans are.
All of the gang murders today = not national news
One murder = national news
The neo-nazi storyline is much more interesting than all the Mexican V Black crime.

The funniest part of that statement is that O'Reily HAS covered those issued in depth sever times...and probably many more as I do not catch the sow consistently but have seen several programs dedicated to the issue of Mexican violence in cities especially in border towns.

Where is MSNBC and CNN?

I'm not sure Bill O'Reilly is covering it out of a sense of journalistic integrity or intellectual honesty so much as it's a story that fits nicely into HIS worldview. And more importantly, it's the type of story his audience wants to hear. News is ultimately about getting eyeballs, because news is a business more than anything else. And O'Reilly shows his viewers are, by and large, going to be enthusiastic about anti-Mexican stories. He doesn't cover them because it's good journalism, he covers them because his viewers are racist.

Sounds like someone is truly predigest....


...You do realize his show is the highest rated cable news show on TV.....

Totally meaningless. Not thatt I agree that his Viewers are all Racist, but Ratings don't equal Quality(as yoou seem to imply everytime you post that tidbit of trivia).

I agree that rating do not equal quality however because his viewers are racist. simple tarnishes his image without providing facts to back it up. Many people discount Fox News simply because it has a bad image but they have never watched it with an open mind.

Secondly, Fox News must be doing something right. Their ratings are going up and up while the ratings for MSNBC and CNN are dropping like a rock. Why are people switching from CNN and MSNBC to Fox News? Maybe they feel that the extremely bias coverage of the presidential elected by CNN and MSNBC (as PROVEN by independent sources such as Pew) lead them to make a bad decision....

I don't know...All I know is Fox News has been found to be the least bias news outlet, the ratings for Fox News are going up, and the ratings for the "liberal media" are dropping like a rock.

Explain that.....
 

cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Rainsford
I'm not sure Bill O'Reilly is covering it out of a sense of journalistic integrity or intellectual honesty so much as it's a story that fits nicely into HIS worldview. And more importantly, it's the type of story his audience wants to hear. News is ultimately about getting eyeballs, because news is a business more than anything else. And O'Reilly shows his viewers are, by and large, going to be enthusiastic about anti-Mexican stories. He doesn't cover them because it's good journalism, he covers them because his viewers are racist.

I know it's against the rules here and grounds for suspension, but some times I just don't care - how the hell can you be a moderator of this forum while holding this as your belief? You are dead wrong. This kind of attitude is what makes this P&N forum the cesspool of Anandtech :roll:


You're right, it is against the rules and just earned you a suspension.

Anandtech Senior Moderator
Red Dawn
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: OCguy
It is only the biggest story of the day because of how brainwashed Americans are.
All of the gang murders today = not national news
One murder = national news
The neo-nazi storyline is much more interesting than all the Mexican V Black crime.

The funniest part of that statement is that O'Reily HAS covered those issued in depth sever times...and probably many more as I do not catch the sow consistently but have seen several programs dedicated to the issue of Mexican violence in cities especially in border towns.

Where is MSNBC and CNN?

I'm not sure Bill O'Reilly is covering it out of a sense of journalistic integrity or intellectual honesty so much as it's a story that fits nicely into HIS worldview. And more importantly, it's the type of story his audience wants to hear. News is ultimately about getting eyeballs, because news is a business more than anything else. And O'Reilly shows his viewers are, by and large, going to be enthusiastic about anti-Mexican stories. He doesn't cover them because it's good journalism, he covers them because his viewers are racist.

Sounds like someone is truly predigest....


...You do realize his show is the highest rated cable news show on TV.....

Totally meaningless. Not thatt I agree that his Viewers are all Racist, but Ratings don't equal Quality(as yoou seem to imply everytime you post that tidbit of trivia).

I agree that rating do not equal quality however because his viewers are racist. simple tarnishes his image without providing facts to back it up. Many people discount Fox News simply because it has a bad image but they have never watched it with an open mind.

Secondly, Fox News must be doing something right. Their ratings are going up and up while the ratings for MSNBC and CNN are dropping like a rock. Why are people switching from CNN and MSNBC to Fox News? Maybe they feel that the extremely bias coverage of the presidential elected by CNN and MSNBC (as PROVEN by independent sources such as Pew) lead them to make a bad decision....

I don't know...All I know is Fox News has been found to be the least bias news outlet, the ratings for Fox News are going up, and the ratings for the "liberal media" are dropping like a rock.

Explain that.....

I can't explain it, but it disturbs me as Fox "News" is indeed nothing but a Propoganda arm of the Republican Party/"Conservatism". It is not a healthy devepoment, neither is MSNBC which has decided to take the opposite approach.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I'm not sure Bill O'Reilly is covering it out of a sense of journalistic integrity or intellectual honesty so much as it's a story that fits nicely into HIS worldview. And more importantly, it's the type of story his audience wants to hear. News is ultimately about getting eyeballs, because news is a business more than anything else. And O'Reilly shows his viewers are, by and large, going to be enthusiastic about anti-Mexican stories. He doesn't cover them because it's good journalism, he covers them because his viewers are racist.

I know it's against the rules here and grounds for suspension, but how the hell can you be a moderator of this forum while holding this as your belief? You are dead wrong.

Dude, WTF is wrong with you?
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I'm not sure Bill O'Reilly is covering it out of a sense of journalistic integrity or intellectual honesty so much as it's a story that fits nicely into HIS worldview. And more importantly, it's the type of story his audience wants to hear. News is ultimately about getting eyeballs, because news is a business more than anything else. And O'Reilly shows his viewers are, by and large, going to be enthusiastic about anti-Mexican stories. He doesn't cover them because it's good journalism, he covers them because his viewers are racist.

I know it's against the rules here and grounds for suspension, but how the hell can you be a moderator of this forum while holding this as your belief? You are dead wrong.

Dude, WTF is wrong with you?

WTF is wrong with him? And WTF is wrong with you for defending such a statement?
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: bobcpg
What I don't get is how this shooting happened. I thought they banned guns in Washington D.C.?

sigh

Ditto.

Hey, let's really apply his 'logic'. His logic suggests that any law which merely reduces a problem but does not eliminate it, is a law that's useless and should be repealed.

He makes it sarcastically - 'how can any gun crime occur with gun control? ha ha, get rid of gun control'.

So: how can the shooting have happened? There are murder laws. Get rid of them.

His pathetic irrationality is incapable of recognizing that the law might have prevented other murders from happening, so he posts that tripe.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I'm not sure Bill O'Reilly is covering it out of a sense of journalistic integrity or intellectual honesty so much as it's a story that fits nicely into HIS worldview. And more importantly, it's the type of story his audience wants to hear. News is ultimately about getting eyeballs, because news is a business more than anything else. And O'Reilly shows his viewers are, by and large, going to be enthusiastic about anti-Mexican stories. He doesn't cover them because it's good journalism, he covers them because his viewers are racist.

I know it's against the rules here and grounds for suspension, but how the hell can you be a moderator of this forum while holding this as your belief? You are dead wrong.

Dude, WTF is wrong with you?

WTF is wrong with him? And WTF is wrong with you for defending such a statement?

Not defending the statement, but if someone brings up "Mod" everytime a Mod makes a stupid statement, there'd be no Members left. You knew it wasn't supposed be stated, yet you did anyway. :roll:
 

Patranus

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Ditto.
Hey, let's really apply his 'logic'. His logic suggests that any law which merely reduces a problem but does not eliminate it, is a law that's useless and should be repealed.
He makes it sarcastically - 'how can any gun crime occur with gun control? ha ha, get rid of gun control'.
So: how can the shooting have happened? There are murder laws. Get rid of them.
His pathetic irrationality is incapable of recognizing that the law might have prevented other murders from happening, so he posts that tripe.

Hmmm...I don't know...I am pretty sure that if he was going to break the law IE killing people, he would have no problem breaking the law in terms of gun control. How many convicted felons end up committing crimes with guns? Gun control didn't work there....

That is why gun control laws DO NOT WORK...all they do is take guns out of the hands of people who follow laws.
 

Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: Craig234
Ditto.
Hey, let's really apply his 'logic'. His logic suggests that any law which merely reduces a problem but does not eliminate it, is a law that's useless and should be repealed.
He makes it sarcastically - 'how can any gun crime occur with gun control? ha ha, get rid of gun control'.
So: how can the shooting have happened? There are murder laws. Get rid of them.
His pathetic irrationality is incapable of recognizing that the law might have prevented other murders from happening, so he posts that tripe.

Hmmm...I don't know...I am pretty sure that if he was going to break the law IE killing people, he would have no problem breaking the law in terms of gun control. How many convicted felons end up committing crimes with guns? Gun control didn't work there....

That is why gun control laws DO NOT WORK...all they do is take guns out of the hands of people who follow laws.

My point was abut *his logic* in his post, not the entire topic of gun control, so stick to the point...
 

HomerJS

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Feb 6, 2002
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Here is the reason for the lack of coverage...

Despite what they say many of the stories on the Fox talking head show work off talking points. The story was about a white supremicist killing a guard in a holocaust museum. Preception or not there is a subtext that this guy is a right wing nut job. Put this on top of the HSD report warning of right wing extremist atttacks this is a story they don't want to touch until they get their talking points.

They'll disucss it today but it will probably be shaped by either omitting the white supremicist description or complain that the "main stream media" is lumping him in with the right.
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: HomerJS
Here is the reason for the lack of coverage...

Despite what they say many of the stories on the Fox talking head show work off talking points. The story was about a white supremicist killing a guard in a holocaust museum. Preception or not there is a subtext that this guy is a right wing nut job. Put this on top of the HSD report warning of right wing extremist atttacks this is a story they don't want to touch until they get their talking points.

They'll disucss it today but it will probably be shaped by either omitting the white supremicist description or complain that the "main stream media" is lumping him in with the right.

This is the best reply in your own thread. After getting run out of town with your inaccurate assertion Fox News and their commentary shows didnt cover it. You come back with "Here is the reason for the lack of coverage".

Completely diconnected from reality. Looks like you ignored your own thread content.
 

EagleKeeper

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Oct 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: HomerJS
Here is the reason for the lack of coverage...

Despite what they say many of the stories on the Fox talking head show work off talking points. The story was about a white supremicist killing a guard in a holocaust museum. Preception or not there is a subtext that this guy is a right wing nut job. Put this on top of the HSD report warning of right wing extremist atttacks this is a story they don't want to touch until they get their talking points.

They'll disucss it today but it will probably be shaped by either omitting the white supremicist description or complain that the "main stream media" is lumping him in with the right.

You have a theory and when the facts broke that theory - you went searching for another set of facts.

 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Patranus

I don't know...All I know is Fox News has been found to be the least bias news outlet, the ratings for Fox News are going up, and the ratings for the "liberal media" are dropping like a rock.

Explain that.....
Well they aren't about News so much so the little bit they do broadcast seems less biased. Unfortunately when you have the 3 stooges in the morning, Hannity, Beck, O"Riely, Huckabee, Bret Hume and Bret Baier taking up so much of it's daily airtime it's tough to ignore their biased influence.
 

SammyJr

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Well non-governmental liberals are in a pickle.


They dont want any sympathy for Israel, but they also want to shine the light on a right-winger with a gun.

I dont think they know how to cover it.

believing that Israel should get no special treatment != holocaust denier who shoots people
 

CitizenKain

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Jul 6, 2000
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Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: OCguy
It is only the biggest story of the day because of how brainwashed Americans are.
All of the gang murders today = not national news
One murder = national news
The neo-nazi storyline is much more interesting than all the Mexican V Black crime.

The funniest part of that statement is that O'Reily HAS covered those issued in depth sever times...and probably many more as I do not catch the sow consistently but have seen several programs dedicated to the issue of Mexican violence in cities especially in border towns.

Where is MSNBC and CNN?

I'm not sure Bill O'Reilly is covering it out of a sense of journalistic integrity or intellectual honesty so much as it's a story that fits nicely into HIS worldview. And more importantly, it's the type of story his audience wants to hear. News is ultimately about getting eyeballs, because news is a business more than anything else. And O'Reilly shows his viewers are, by and large, going to be enthusiastic about anti-Mexican stories. He doesn't cover them because it's good journalism, he covers them because his viewers are racist.

Sounds like someone is truly predigest....


...You do realize his show is the highest rated cable news show on TV.....

Totally meaningless. Not thatt I agree that his Viewers are all Racist, but Ratings don't equal Quality(as yoou seem to imply everytime you post that tidbit of trivia).

I agree that rating do not equal quality however because his viewers are racist. simple tarnishes his image without providing facts to back it up. Many people discount Fox News simply because it has a bad image but they have never watched it with an open mind.

Secondly, Fox News must be doing something right. Their ratings are going up and up while the ratings for MSNBC and CNN are dropping like a rock. Why are people switching from CNN and MSNBC to Fox News? Maybe they feel that the extremely bias coverage of the presidential elected by CNN and MSNBC (as PROVEN by independent sources such as Pew) lead them to make a bad decision....

I don't know...All I know is Fox News has been found to be the least bias news outlet, the ratings for Fox News are going up, and the ratings for the "liberal media" are dropping like a rock.

Explain that.....

Dumb people like cheap entertainment that doesn't challenge their world views. What news station are you going to watch, the one that simply repeats what you want to hear, or the one that tells you how things are? Plus people get talking heads to tell them what to think so they don't have to.
 

CitizenKain

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Jul 6, 2000
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I'm not sure Bill O'Reilly is covering it out of a sense of journalistic integrity or intellectual honesty so much as it's a story that fits nicely into HIS worldview. And more importantly, it's the type of story his audience wants to hear. News is ultimately about getting eyeballs, because news is a business more than anything else. And O'Reilly shows his viewers are, by and large, going to be enthusiastic about anti-Mexican stories. He doesn't cover them because it's good journalism, he covers them because his viewers are racist.

I know it's against the rules here and grounds for suspension, but some times I just don't care - how the hell can you be a moderator of this forum while holding this as your belief? You are dead wrong. This kind of attitude is what makes this P&N forum the cesspool of Anandtech :roll:

Truth hurts I guess.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Rainsford
I'm not sure Bill O'Reilly is covering it out of a sense of journalistic integrity or intellectual honesty so much as it's a story that fits nicely into HIS worldview. And more importantly, it's the type of story his audience wants to hear. News is ultimately about getting eyeballs, because news is a business more than anything else. And O'Reilly shows his viewers are, by and large, going to be enthusiastic about anti-Mexican stories. He doesn't cover them because it's good journalism, he covers them because his viewers are racist.

I know it's against the rules here and grounds for suspension, but some times I just don't care - how the hell can you be a moderator of this forum while holding this as your belief? You are dead wrong. This kind of attitude is what makes this P&N forum the cesspool of Anandtech :roll:


You're right, it is against the rules and just earned you a suspension.

Anandtech Senior Moderator
Red Dawn

Let's stop commenting about forum moderation in P&N. Please post those in PFI or PM the Anandtech Moderator account etc.

T.I.A.

Fern
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intersting. a mod makes a racist comment someone calls him on it and they get banned.

nope no problem with that at all.

I watch O'realy on occasion so that makes me racist?
 

bobcpg

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: bobcpg
What I don't get is how this shooting happened. I thought they banned guns in Washington D.C.?

sigh

Ditto.

Hey, let's really apply his 'logic'. His logic suggests that any law which merely reduces a problem but does not eliminate it, is a law that's useless and should be repealed.

He makes it sarcastically - 'how can any gun crime occur with gun control? ha ha, get rid of gun control'.

So: how can the shooting have happened? There are murder laws. Get rid of them.

His pathetic irrationality is incapable of recognizing that the law might have prevented other murders from happening, so he posts that tripe.

DC's Gun ban happened in 1976, it has done nothing to curb crime. In fact, the for many years after 1976 crime, especially murders, soared in DC. So when you say it "reduces a problem" I would like to know what problem you are referring to. Otherwise I'll assume the "problem" is allowing people to protect themselves.


 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: Craig234
Ditto.
Hey, let's really apply his 'logic'. His logic suggests that any law which merely reduces a problem but does not eliminate it, is a law that's useless and should be repealed.
He makes it sarcastically - 'how can any gun crime occur with gun control? ha ha, get rid of gun control'.
So: how can the shooting have happened? There are murder laws. Get rid of them.
His pathetic irrationality is incapable of recognizing that the law might have prevented other murders from happening, so he posts that tripe.

Hmmm...I don't know...I am pretty sure that if he was going to break the law IE killing people, he would have no problem breaking the law in terms of gun control. How many convicted felons end up committing crimes with guns? Gun control didn't work there....

That is why gun control laws DO NOT WORK...all they do is take guns out of the hands of people who follow laws.

My point was abut *his logic* in his post, not the entire topic of gun control, so stick to the point...
I don't see anything rational about treating something which inherently infringes on the rights of others (murder), with the same logic as something which doesn't (owning a gun).

Originally posted by: waggy
I watch O'realy on occasion so that makes me racist?
That depends on how much you agree with him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC8mNynSJi4
 

Patranus

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Apr 15, 2007
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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: Craig234
Ditto.
Hey, let's really apply his 'logic'. His logic suggests that any law which merely reduces a problem but does not eliminate it, is a law that's useless and should be repealed.
He makes it sarcastically - 'how can any gun crime occur with gun control? ha ha, get rid of gun control'.
So: how can the shooting have happened? There are murder laws. Get rid of them.
His pathetic irrationality is incapable of recognizing that the law might have prevented other murders from happening, so he posts that tripe.

Hmmm...I don't know...I am pretty sure that if he was going to break the law IE killing people, he would have no problem breaking the law in terms of gun control. How many convicted felons end up committing crimes with guns? Gun control didn't work there....

That is why gun control laws DO NOT WORK...all they do is take guns out of the hands of people who follow laws.

My point was abut *his logic* in his post, not the entire topic of gun control, so stick to the point...
I don't see anything rational about treating something which inherently infringes on the rights of others (murder), with the same logic as something which doesn't (owning a gun).

Originally posted by: waggy
I watch O'realy on occasion so that makes me racist?
That depends on how much you agree with him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC8mNynSJi4

Why not ask the New Haven Fire Fighters?

Fun conclusion to this thread...

The shooter mentions O'Reilly on his web site as a bad guy.......
 

Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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Originally posted by: bobcpg
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: bobcpg
What I don't get is how this shooting happened. I thought they banned guns in Washington D.C.?

sigh

Ditto.

Hey, let's really apply his 'logic'. His logic suggests that any law which merely reduces a problem but does not eliminate it, is a law that's useless and should be repealed.

He makes it sarcastically - 'how can any gun crime occur with gun control? ha ha, get rid of gun control'.

So: how can the shooting have happened? There are murder laws. Get rid of them.

His pathetic irrationality is incapable of recognizing that the law might have prevented other murders from happening, so he posts that tripe.

DC's Gun ban happened in 1976, it has done nothing to curb crime. In fact, the for many years after 1976 crime, especially murders, soared in DC. So when you say it "reduces a problem" I would like to know what problem you are referring to. Otherwise I'll assume the "problem" is allowing people to protect themselves.

I figured one or two righties would fail to understand the point I was making about his logic and post arguments about the merits of gun control.

I'll cut and paste my response to the previous post that did that:

My point was abut *his logic* in his post, not the entire topic of gun control, so stick to the point...
 
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