OC used to be stable, but now isnt?

[Puppies04]

As you are claiming that you "stress tested" with crisis, how did you record your maximum vcore while playing at the same time? As I told you in the other thread there is no way your CPU was actually running stable at 5.3ghz with 1.37 vcore or even this 1.43v number you have now come up with. Also on the same point where did you get these maximum "50 C" temps from? Where did you record them while you were playing or was that the temp you saw once you shut the game down and got back to the desktop.

You aren't going to get many sympathetic answers round here until you start answeing these questions because the numbers you are talking about don't match with anyone elses on this forum apart from the temps which are closer to a guy who spent about $5k on his cooling setup than anyone elses.

 

[Puppies04]

@ 5.3ghz I bet it was never stable. How long have you had this cpu, 2 months? Probably just the initial break in. My 2600k was perfectly stable @ 4.4ghz with 1.32v. A month or so later it wanted more voltage. No biggie. Just apply more volts or scale back on that massive OC. I wouldn''t worry about it. I owned 3 of these chips and they behaved in a similar way you are explaining.

No i'm sorry, even the "initial break in" theory paired with crisis as a stress tester doesn't explain 5.3ghz @1.37v.

I'm more than willing to believe it with proof but it doesn't seem like that is going to happen....

 

[Smoblikat]

As you are claiming that you "stress tested" with crisis, how did you record your maximum vcore while playing at the same time? As I told you in the other thread there is no way your CPU was actually running stable at 5.3ghz with 1.37 vcore or even this 1.43v number you have now come up with. Also on the same point where did you get these maximum "50 C" temps from? Where did you record them while you were playing or was that the temp you saw once you shut the game down and got back to the desktop.

You aren't going to get many sympathetic answers round here until you start answeing these questions because the numbers you are talking about don't match with anyone elses on this forum apart from the temps which are closer to a guy who spent about $5k on his cooling setup than anyone elses.

I never said i use crysis to stress test. I said if it passes crysis i consider it stable, i got these numberf from speedfan, CPU-z, and prime95.

Its a good thing i dont want sympathy, i want answers.

 

[Smoblikat]

@ 5.3ghz I bet it was never stable. How long have you had this cpu, 2 months? Probably just the initial break in. My 2600k was perfectly stable @ 4.4ghz with 1.32v. A month or so later it wanted more voltage. No biggie. Just apply more volts or scale back on that massive OC. I wouldn''t worry about it. I owned 3 of these chips and they behaved in a similar way you are explaining.

Thanks, its just so weird that it happened so abruptly. One second it was perfect, then i flashed the BIOS and it wasnt. Which leads me to beleive that its more the mobo rather than the CPU. Ive only had the CPU for a few weeks.

 

[exar333]

Running Crysis is a poor way to state a system is 'stable'. Comments like this make you apear to be a 'noob'.

I doubt the 5.3Gh was ever stable. Why flash your BIOS? Unless there is an issue you need to fix, why mess with a 'stable' rig?

 

[Puppies04]

Thanks, its just so weird that it happened so abruptly. One second it was perfect, then i flashed the BIOS and it wasnt. Which leads me to beleive that its more the mobo rather than the CPU. Ive only had the CPU for a few weeks.

Your numbers don't add up, you can't explain or prove what you were running "stable" on so seeing as your mobo would have reset back to stock settings when you flashed the bios I can only assume you haven't set it back to that point.

 

[Smoblikat]

Running Crysis is a poor way to state a system is 'stable'. Comments like this make you apear to be a 'noob'.

I doubt the 5.3Gh was ever stable. Why flash your BIOS? Unless there is an issue you need to fix, why mess with a 'stable' rig?

Is 5.3ghz an impossibility? I wasnt aware of this...........i guess this thread should be closed since everyone is trolling me. All i wanted was an answer to why my mobo wouldnt let me overclock back to what i had before.

 

[LoneNinja]

My voltages were offset mode @ + 1.105v, so whaever that is is what my OC was. No i dont even know what linx is , it was prime stable for about an hour or so, then i got a BSOD. But it was game stable.

Im very serious if i had known that 5.3@ 1.37 was so good i would have taken a screenshot of it, my CPU does 3.3ghz @ .960v fully prime stable for ever. Is that good?

Getting a BSOD about an hour into Prime95 proves it wasn't stable, and not crashing during crysis was luck. Try playing BF3, it'll crash your system repeatedly if you weren't prime95 stable. Your also looking at data corruption having an unstable system.

I once called my Athlon X2 5000 BE stable because it only crashed a couple hours into Prime95, never crashed during the games I played at the time or while at the desktop/browsing the web. Started playing Left4Dead and the system would crash 2-3 times a night on me, dropping my overclock 100mhz and getting an over night run of Prime95 stable was the only way I could fix the crashing.

My point, you already admitted right there that your OC wasn't stable, so don't expect it to be stable now. lol

Hope someone besides me caught the part I made bold.

 

[Rvenger]

Is 5.3ghz an impossibility? I wasnt aware of this...........i guess this thread should be closed since everyone is trolling me. All i wanted was an answer to why my mobo wouldnt let me overclock back to what i had before.

How about let's not worry about the 5.3ghz overclock. I am sure it was a misread somewhere and nobodys perfect. Lets just get your computer back to a good stable overclock right?

Why don't you try scaling back to around 4.6ghz with around 1.30v? Run IBT and P95 for a few hours and let us know if it hold up stable.

 

[ErickMaga]

Is 5.3ghz an impossibility? I wasnt aware of this...........i guess this thread should be closed since everyone is trolling me. All i wanted was an answer to why my mobo wouldnt let me overclock back to what i had before.

Well it seems that you are very uninformed about pc's.

Anyways, different BIOS may result in different overclocking capabilities.

If i were you i would flash the mobo back to the bios you were using, and then learn how to make a cpu really stable.

But 5.3ghz at 1.42v is far from stable, it may play crysis, but it may bsod on you out of the blue, just like it did.

If you wanna call it stable at 5.3ghz do some prim95, linx, else than that dont come here complaining that you cpu is "now" unstable if it wasant stable at all in the first place.

 

[Vesku]

It's pretty common for different versions of BIOS for the same motherboard to have different behavior. My guess is the newer BIOS does less silent overvolting, typically the early BIOS will add in some extra juice just in case. Don't want your board crashing or not seeming as stable and OC friendly as a competitors.

As stated, either feed it more volts or keep it at lower clocks.

 

[Schmide]

One caveat I just thought of. New bios(s) often carry micro code updates that may adjust your CPU. It could be that your CPU was, misreporting, running higher voltage than reported, not properly checking for cache errors, etc and thus allowing for the pseudo stable OC.

PS people can only troll you if you react with an irrational response to them.

 

[Magic Carpet]

you dont update bios unless there is a need. So many times a newer bios often caused me more problems than it resolved.

 

[Puppies04]

Is 5.3ghz an impossibility? I wasnt aware of this...........i guess this thread should be closed since everyone is trolling me. All i wanted was an answer to why my mobo wouldnt let me overclock back to what i had before.

Nobody is trolling you it is just very hard to take the numbers you were apparently running on seriously. Most likely you will never find out exactly what happened. As already suggested a few posts up, why don't you start from scratch and see if you can get a properly stable overclock. Hell if you get back up to 5.3ghz at around 1.4v that is great just take some screenies post them here and we will all worship your 2500k as the king of chips.

 

[GrumpyMan]

I love when people come ask for help and then get upset when they don't like the advice given. Lol.....

 

[Idontcare]

Is 5.3ghz an impossibility? I wasnt aware of this...........i guess this thread should be closed since everyone is trolling me. All i wanted was an answer to why my mobo wouldnt let me overclock back to what i had before.

Its not impossible, I've already told you I too can run (and have) my 2600K at 5.3GHz. But its not stable at that clockspeed, it crashed in LinX after just a few cycles.

You've been given a few suggestions in this thread already, but I don't see any indication from you that you've pursued any of them.

You came to us for help, help has been given. Now you don't like the help and rather than thanking everyone here for their time you instead bite back and snarl with this "everyone is trolling me" BS

None of us has an easy button sitting next to our desk. Right now we are all 50/50 trying to deconvolve your problems from being either user error or actual hardware error (or both).

Most people are leaning towards this being user error. Your own lack of understanding on how to OC, how to stress test for stability, etc, is strong motivation for those suspicions.

Surely you can see, and understand, why this is the case.

It has been said that you can't help those who don't want to be helped. At this juncture I am beginning to write you off as the kind of person who really isn't looking to be helped.

As far as I can tell you have done nothing to determine where your rig is stable on this side of 5.3GHz. No 4.5GHz testing, no 4.8GHz testing, no Vcc bumps, nothing.

 

[happy medium]

If i were you i would flash the mobo back to the bios you were using, and then learn how to make a cpu really stable.

Seems like the logical solution.

 

[Smoblikat]

How about let's not worry about the 5.3ghz overclock. I am sure it was a misread somewhere and nobodys perfect. Lets just get your computer back to a good stable overclock right?

Why don't you try scaling back to around 4.6ghz with around 1.30v? Run IBT and P95 for a few hours and let us know if it hold up stable.

Good idea. Lets not worry about whos right or wrong on the 5.3 thing, i just want my compter back to where it was.

Ill try the 4.6, though my chip does 4.5 with stock volts, or at least it used to. I havent tried it again.

Im running P95 as we speak, 4.5 stock volts (about 1.25) ill let it run for a while then see whats what.

 

[Smoblikat]

Its not impossible, I've already told you I too can run (and have) my 2600K at 5.3GHz. But its not stable at that clockspeed, it crashed in LinX after just a few cycles.

You've been given a few suggestions in this thread already, but I don't see any indication from you that you've pursued any of them.

You came to us for help, help has been given. Now you don't like the help and rather than thanking everyone here for their time you instead bite back and snarl with this "everyone is trolling me" BS

None of us has an easy button sitting next to our desk. Right now we are all 50/50 trying to deconvolve your problems from being either user error or actual hardware error (or both).

Most people are leaning towards this being user error. Your own lack of understanding on how to OC, how to stress test for stability, etc, is strong motivation for those suspicions.

Surely you can see, and understand, why this is the case.

It has been said that you can't help those who don't want to be helped. At this juncture I am beginning to write you off as the kind of person who really isn't looking to be helped.

As far as I can tell you have done nothing to determine where your rig is stable on this side of 5.3GHz. No 4.5GHz testing, no 4.8GHz testing, no Vcc bumps, nothing.

Well, you are 100% wrong, i have been testing all night. But you dont care, im sure youre as sick of me as i am of you. So stop posting in my threads.

 

[Diogenes2]

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Why does that screen-shot of SuperPi only show 16 loops ?

 

[Smoblikat]

Why does that screen-shot of SuperPi only show 16 loops ?

Its a 1M run, but as others have said superpi isnt stressful enough. Im currently running P95.

Im going to see how high i can get, im at 4.5 stock volts. Which i used to be able to do, so well see where my instability is.

 

[ThatsABigOne]

Screen shot of Prime95 12 hours, or Linpack, or ban.

 

[Smoblikat]

Screen shot of Prime95 12 hours, or Linpack, or ban.

lol, what? 12hrs? I dont really care THAT much. Everyone is making this such a big deal, except for that dude who suggested i try 4.5, this isnt that big of a deal just chill out.

 

[Diogenes2]

Its a 1M run, but as others have said superpi isnt stressful enough. Im currently running P95.


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That run was stressful enough, since it didn't complete.

 

[Smoblikat]

you dont update bios unless there is a need. So many times a newer bios often caused me more problems than it resolved.

I now know this.

One caveat I just thought of. New bios(s) often carry micro code updates that may adjust your CPU. It could be that your CPU was, misreporting, running higher voltage than reported, not properly checking for cache errors, etc and thus allowing for the pseudo stable OC.

PS people can only troll you if you react with an irrational response to them.

I didnt know that, well im running 5ghz P95 stable @ 1.33 - 1/34v, so when this finishes testing well know.