OC used to be stable, but now isnt?

[Diogenes2]

How about a screen shot of P95 running with CPUZ showing 5g and 1.34v ?

If true, you have a very rare chip .. 1.4 would be pretty rare ..

P.S.
Temps showing 50c would be nice too ..

 

[Smoblikat]

How about a screen shot of P95 running with CPUZ showing 5g and 1.34v ?

If true, you have a very rare chip .. 1.4 would be pretty rare ..

P.S.
Temps showing 50c would be nice too ..

Sure, it smore like 1.35 now, but here it is:
Temps are 46C

 

[HeXen]

I lost a few mobo's due to OC'ing even though they were stable for months. OC is just typically hard on components and further puts stress on the chain to find that weak link quicker.

I never found OC'ing to be noticable enough outside of benchmarks to be worth having. A few more FPS in games that already play smooth just isnt worth the hassle and expense to me. i don't think i ever once got a gigahertz faster OC and opened up some apps and games and said.."wow". more like "meh". so i finally quite messing.

 

[Smoblikat]

I lost a few mobo's due to OC'ing even though they were stable for months. OC is just typically hard on components and further puts stress on the chain to find that weak link quicker.

I never found OC'ing to be noticable enough outside of benchmarks to be worth having. A few more FPS in games that already play smooth just isnt worth the hassle and expense to me.

I agree, i game at 1024x768, so i run it at stock, but i usually compete with my friend to see who has higher clocks .

 

[Smartazz]

I lost a few mobo's due to OC'ing even though they were stable for months. OC is just typically hard on components and further puts stress on the chain to find that weak link quicker.

I never found OC'ing to be noticable enough outside of benchmarks to be worth having. A few more FPS in games that already play smooth just isnt worth the hassle and expense to me. i don't think i ever once got a gigahertz faster OC and opened up some apps and games and said.."wow". more like "meh". so i finally quite messing.

I've never run into problems with overclocking. I've had my Q6600@3GHz and 1.35v for around three years and it didn't ever become unstable. My rule of thumb is to keep the overvolt at most within 10% of stock voltage. However, I think many users would feel that this is too conservative for them. The added benefit past this level of overvolting tends to drop off pretty quickly anyway.

 

[Smoblikat]

I've never run into problems with overclocking. I've had my Q6600@3GHz and 1.35v for around three years and it didn't ever become unstable. My rule of thumb is to keep the overvolt at most within 10% of stock voltage. However, I think many users would feel that this is too conservative for them. The added benefit past this level of overvolting tends to drop off pretty quickly anyway.

I agree, im usually vvery conservative with my volts, i run my CPU at stock so i can keep the voltage under a volt (3.3ghz). And i run my 470 at stock VID of .925.

 

[Schmide]

BTW what are you using to monitor your temps???

 

[happy medium]

Seems you do have a real nice chip, and a few people here are eating crow.

Did you roll back the bios? I dont think your chip was degrading since your voltages were in check and your temps were great.

At such a high overclock, I would check you mobo temps and voltages.

 

[Vesku]

He is the 1%.

BTW, Smoblikat, is your computer in an unheated basement in Alaska or Siberia?

 

[Smoblikat]

He is the 1%.

BTW, Smoblikat, is your computer in an unheated basement in Alaska or Siberia?

Im in new hampshire (USA) and its raining out, so ambients arent cold at all. Probobly 40.

Seems you do have a real nice chip, and a few people here are eating crow.

Did you roll back the bios? I dont think your chip was degrading since your voltages were in check and your temps were great.

At such a high overclock, I would check you mobo temps and voltages.

LOL, i know . I wish people would learn that theyre not always right. What jerks.

BTW what are you using to monitor your temps???

Speedfan, i used to use coretemp but i prefer speedfan.

 

[HeXen]

I've never run into problems with overclocking. I've had my Q6600@3GHz and 1.35v for around three years and it didn't ever become unstable. My rule of thumb is to keep the overvolt at most within 10% of stock voltage. However, I think many users would feel that this is too conservative for them. The added benefit past this level of overvolting tends to drop off pretty quickly anyway.

i used to push the max stability threshold. I've had ram go out too, PSU's..etc over time despite 240mm side fan and 7 120mm fans. lol Though naturally theres always parts out there that manage the stress well for years and i agree its best to be more conservative. i just don't feel raw speed is as much of an issue or impact it once was years ago.

i used to sometimes get weird issues that appeared software related from boards that were stressed for a few months. I'd load safe defaults and then was blaming windows but turned out the mobo was literally dieing a slow death

 

[Smoblikat]

Just realized somthing, when i did the 5.0 @ 1.35v i had PLL overvoltage disabled, would i have gotten better results with it enableD?

 

[Rvenger]

I am impressed with that chip Smoblikat. I think I may have one like yours as well. I am at 4.4ghz stable with a mere 1.18v

EDIT: Hmm I noticed I am using the same board as you... wonder if the board is helping any...

 

[GrumpyMan]

Well, you are 100% wrong, i have been testing all night. But you dont care, im sure youre as sick of me as i am of you. So stop posting in my threads.

Lol....well I would be careful of pissing off Idontcare for posting in your thread since he is a moderator and can perma ban you if you don't follow the forum etiquette that has been established and is followed by the nice people who are members here who try to fix the problems of bratty kids.

:whiste:

 

[Smoblikat]

Lol....well I would be careful of pissing off Idontcare for posting in your thread since he is a moderator and can perma ban you if you don't follow the forum etiquette that has been established and is followed by the nice people who are members here who try to fix the problems of bratty kids.

:whiste:

Actually he was being a jerk, and i proved him wrong to boot.

Im not trying to be mean (nor am i a kid) im just sick of arrogant people who think they know everything and have no rpoblem letting everyone else know it. He did help me with the PLL thing though. And i thank him for that.

 

[Smoblikat]

I am impressed with that chip Smoblikat. I think I may have one like yours as well. I am at 4.4ghz stable with a mere 1.18v

EDIT: Hmm I noticed I am using the same board as you... wonder if the board is helping any...

Nice, i think this board is magic or somthing. I can do 4.5 at 1.15v approx .

 

[Smartazz]

Smoblikat, you may have a golden chip, however Idontcare has valid points. It's pretty important to ensure that your overclock is truly stable by either running Prime 95 for at least 12 hours or run a few rounds of Linx/Intel Burn Test. Silent data corruption can still occur, even if your games aren't crashing. Believe me, Idontcare knows what he's talking about.

 

[Smoblikat]

Smoblikat, you may have a golden chip, however Idontcare has valid points. It's pretty important to ensure that your overclock is truly stable by either running Prime 95 for at least 12 hours or run a few rounds of Linx/Intel Burn Test. Silent data corruption can still occur, even if your games aren't crashing. Believe me, Idontcare knows what he's talking about.

I never doubted the validity of his statments. I was just commenting on his presentation of them. But what is this silent data corruption? What can it do? I keep my data on a different drive than my windows drive, so will it effect me?

 

[podspi]

I never doubted the validity of his statments. I was just commenting on his presentation of them. But what is this silent data corruption? What can it do? I keep my data on a different drive than my windows drive, so will it effect me?

Essentially, if you perform a calculation (say 2+2) and then store the result somewhere, if your CPU is unstable, three things could happen.

1) 2+2 = 4, and you go on with your life


2) Your computer blows up. (Ok, more likely it BSODs or something similiar)


3) 2+2 = 5, and you go on with your life until you use that result for something important, at which point troubles.

If you are using your computer for work/earning money, it probably isn't a good idea to overclock it unless you know what you are doing. It doesn't sound like you are, though, and then in that case it isn't terribly critical. There is a chance that something will happen that will end in data corruption, but that could happen anyway :biggrin:

 

[Smoblikat]

Essentially, if you perform a calculation (say 2+2) and then store the result somewhere, if your CPU is unstable, three things could happen.

1) 2+2 = 4, and you go on with your life


2) Your computer blows up. (Ok, more likely it BSODs or something similiar)


3) 2+2 = 5, and you go on with your life until you use that result for something important, at which point troubles.

If you are using your computer for work/earning money, it probably isn't a good idea to overclock it unless you know what you are doing. It doesn't sound like you are, though, and then in that case it isn't terribly critical. There is a chance that something will happen that will end in data corruption, but that could happen anyway :biggrin:

lol, well put. That helped a lot. No i dont use my computer for anything other than games and webz. Maybe some schoolwork, but thats just word documents so i would notice if there was an error.

Excellent, it seems like my problem has been solved and my questions answered. Thanks all.

 

[Idontcare]

Well, you are 100% wrong, i have been testing all night. But you dont care, im sure youre as sick of me as i am of you. So stop posting in my threads.

LOL, i know . I wish people would learn that theyre not always right. What jerks.

Actually he was being a jerk, and i proved him wrong to boot.

Im not trying to be mean (nor am i a kid) im just sick of arrogant people who think they know everything and have no rpoblem letting everyone else know it. He did help me with the PLL thing though. And i thank him for that.

I'd love for you to show me where I was being jerk.

For that matter I'm quite interested in you showing me where you "proved" me wrong.

You made claims, now its time for you to back them up.

 

[Smoblikat]

I'd love for you to show me where I was being jerk.

For that matter I'm quite interested in you showing me where you "proved" me wrong.

You made claims, now its time for you to back them up.

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[Rubycon]

Please run LinX or IBT. Prime is not good enough at "maximum" stress levels. Many a system that can run Prime for hours, days or weeks even will fail using the most recent Linpack libraries.

It's also VERY important to make sure you select the proper memory size to make sure you are providing maximum stress. With six core CPUs this is a REQUIREMENT. Not so much with quad and dual cores.

Typically if you can pass five hours (300 minutes of testing) at 512KB size your CPU is stable. Change from number of tests to test length in minutes.

Even if you system is stable in your favorite applications you still need to assure that it's stable when stressed at highest possible levels. As previously mentioned you can have silent corruption. Additionally if you're just pushing your CPU too far from the beginning with excessive voltage don't expect it to last very long. A common symptom here is people will come back a few months later saying their system is no longer stable and they never changed anything. Of course motherboards do go bad (VRMs are heavily stressed) and so does RAM.

 

[Idontcare]

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Uh, that doesn't say 5.3GHz.

If you want to talk 5Ghz then we had a thread all the way back in Oct on that, discussing how silly easy it was to get 5GHz on low volts if you don't bother stress testing with LinX.

Here is my contribution to that thread:

I don't quite understand what is so surprising about this, just for giggles I checked my 2600K and it runs these apps at 5GHz with only 1.360V.

Prime95 has 3 stress test options, the most rigorous is "small FFT" but it is not the default selection. Even then, at best small FFT will run about 10C cooler than LinX, which is why LinX is the standard for proving system stability.

Having a chip that can run 5GHz on less than 1.4V is nothing unusual, its getting it to be LinX stable at 5GHz on any voltage that is the challenge. Which is why your claims of having a 5.3GHz OC raised suspicions in so many members of this forum community.

There is a sticky in this forum regarding OC'ing and stability testing, it has the links needed for downloading the programs. I think everyone here would like to see what voltage your CPU needs to be LinX stable at 5GHz for 20 cycles minimum (don't forget to set the memory usage to "All").

If you aren't willing to stess test with LinX then you need to accept the fact that people in this community are going to continue to put a star next to your claims with that star going to a subnote in fine print that reads "...but not shown to be LinX stable".

Don't hold it against us for holding you to our standards, the standards existed before you came here and you are the one throwing a fit about the standard existing.

 

[Rifter]

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all that proves is you can run prime for 20 min(12 runs). It doesnt prove its stable.

Posting like you have in this post is not going to get you alot of help.