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finglobes

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I recall early in the year a SEIU official who visited White House 4 times got videoed talking about a plan to disrupt markets etc. Its been easy to see the OWS thing is a facade for the Lerner types and that riots are where they want to go:

"A former official (Stephen Lerner) of one of the country's most-powerful unions, SEIU, has a secret plan to "destabilize" the country.

The plan is designed to destroy JP Morgan, nuke the stock market, and weaken Wall Street's grip on power, thus creating the conditions necessary for a redistribution of wealth and a change in government.

Lerner said that unions and community organizations are, for all intents and purposes, dead. The only way to achieve their goals, therefore--the redistribution of wealth and the return of "$17 trillion" stolen from the middle class by Wall Street--is to "destabilize the country."

Lerner's plan is to organize a mass, coordinated "strike" on mortgage, student loan, and local government debt payments--thus bringing the banks to the edge of insolvency and forcing them to renegotiate the terms of the loans. This destabilization and turmoil, Lerner hopes, will also crash the stock market, isolating the banking class and allowing for a transfer of power.

Lerner's plan starts by attacking JP Morgan Chase in early May, with demonstrations on Wall Street, protests at the annual shareholder meeting, and then calls for a coordinated mortgage strike."

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com...1_stock-market-seiu-secret-plan#ixzz1cnjhiWwv
 

Infohawk

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I recall early in the year a SEIU official who visited White House 4 times got videoed talking about a plan to disrupt markets etc. Its been easy to see the OWS thing is a facade for the Lerner types and that riots are where they want to go:

"A former official (Stephen Lerner) of one of the country's most-powerful unions, SEIU, has a secret plan to "destabilize" the country.

The plan is designed to destroy JP Morgan, nuke the stock market, and weaken Wall Street's grip on power, thus creating the conditions necessary for a redistribution of wealth and a change in government.

Lerner said that unions and community organizations are, for all intents and purposes, dead. The only way to achieve their goals, therefore--the redistribution of wealth and the return of "$17 trillion" stolen from the middle class by Wall Street--is to "destabilize the country."

Lerner's plan is to organize a mass, coordinated "strike" on mortgage, student loan, and local government debt payments--thus bringing the banks to the edge of insolvency and forcing them to renegotiate the terms of the loans. This destabilization and turmoil, Lerner hopes, will also crash the stock market, isolating the banking class and allowing for a transfer of power.

Lerner's plan starts by attacking JP Morgan Chase in early May, with demonstrations on Wall Street, protests at the annual shareholder meeting, and then calls for a coordinated mortgage strike."

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com...1_stock-market-seiu-secret-plan#ixzz1cnjhiWwv

Nobody needs help destabilizing anything. Things are already unstable which is why the appetite for OWS exists.
 

finglobes

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Nobody needs help destabilizing anything. Things are already unstable which is why the appetite for OWS exists.

If OWS was spontaneous it would have evolved months ago instead of a few weeks before an election. Now OWS is rapidly degenerating into cells of misfits, psychotics, anti-socials, thugs, anarchists, pervs etc. Even most of the well meaning people couldn't articulate a position that involved more than slogans.
 

KlokWyze

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If OWS was spontaneous it would have evolved months ago instead of a few weeks before an election. Now OWS is rapidly degenerating into cells of misfits, psychotics, anti-socials, thugs, anarchists, pervs etc. Even most of the well meaning people couldn't articulate a position that involved more than slogans.

If all the protests turn violent then they will be shut down, swiftly. What's keeping them alive is that they are mostly peaceful protests and they support the notion that massive wealth disparity is not a good thing, which is something that a significant majority want.
 

Patranus

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If OWS was spontaneous it would have evolved months ago instead of a few weeks before an election. Now OWS is rapidly degenerating into cells of misfits, psychotics, anti-socials, thugs, anarchists, pervs etc. Even most of the well meaning people couldn't articulate a position that involved more than slogans.

Can't really blame them, they are just ding what Obama/Pelosi/Reid told them to do.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Any protest group, especially one of the size of OWS is going to have a few bad apples. The large majority, hell 99% of protesters have been peaceful.
 

Craig234

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If OWS was spontaneous it would have evolved months ago instead of a few weeks before an election. Now OWS is rapidly degenerating into cells of misfits, psychotics, anti-socials, thugs, anarchists, pervs etc. Even most of the well meaning people couldn't articulate a position that involved more than slogans.

That would be like saying this thread is degenerating into liars just because you posted in it.
 

Darwin333

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I understand that but the OWS crowd doesn't seem to realize that.
All you have to do is look at the signs and listen to what the people are saying (not what you want to hear) to see what these people want.

So what you are saying is that the anarchists and communists (exclusively) have come together to achieve a common goal?

Still not following you because there goals are polar opposites. Try again.
 

Patranus

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So what you are saying is that the anarchists and communists (exclusively) have come together to achieve a common goal?

Still not following you because there goals are polar opposites. Try again.

I am telling you that these people don't have a common goal, don't know the differences, and are simply joining up against capitalism.

Like I said, all you have to do is look at the signs and listen to what the people actually say (not what you want to hear) and it is quite clear what type of people the OWS movement consist of.
 

michal1980

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Any protest group, especially one of the size of OWS is going to have a few bad apples. The large majority, hell 99% of protesters have been peaceful.

If the 99% in oakland didnt support destruction of property they would have stopped it. Instead only the small minority of the group stood up to the thugs. The vast majority ethier ignored it, or cheered on the desturction of private property.
 
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