#OccupyWallstreet

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Lifer
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Why is that an interesting perspective?

That's really the dumbest argument out there. Listing off the brand names and pretending people should stop using things they own is about the stupidest thing you could possibly come up with.

Look, our system is clearly broken. If you would rather pretend it's not.. fine. If you want to join the conversation, how about talking about the issues at hand.

If you don't want to have any part in talking about all of the things wrong w\ our system because you'd be siding w\ #occupy people.. just keep your comments to yourself.

It's really like the anti #marijuana crowd. All facts show that marijuana was made illegal through misinformation and propaganda. This is simply fact. You can go look it up. And yet people who don't know any better refuse to talk about any of that.

They could you know, not have owned those things, not fed the system. But they did and now they're bitching about it. Generally one of the first things a slave does is throw of the chains, these ones clearly are ok keeping them around.
 

Craig234

Lifer
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Nice to see they didn't break this paramedics leg.

There are a bunch of doofuses who would have nothing good to say about the protests no matter how peaceful they are, but will gladly attack them with every tidbit they can come up with if they do anything less than perfectly. They don't seem to understand themselves that they're fighting for the corruption and the war on the middle class.

They're the same types who sarcastically post 'hope and change' constantly about Obama.

Nothing to contribute to make things better - just mindless attacks to make.

These protesters did nothing but good things here but you have nothing to say about that, only more sarcastic garbage trying to hype what a few did somewhere.

It says nothing about the protests overall but you are going to hype it and hype it and hype it in these mindless attacks.

It's the same type who chant 'teleprompter!' constantly despite it being an absurd and false attack. Mindless attacks.

Nothing to do with we're better off with Obama or McCain/Palin, just mindless gibberish attacks. Such people are nothing but a waste of forum space.
 

monovillage

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There are a bunch of doofuses who would have nothing good to say about the protests no matter how peaceful they are, but will gladly attack them with every tidbit they can come up with if they do anything less than perfectly. They don't seem to understand themselves that they're fighting for the corruption and the war on the middle class ...............

I fail to see how making fun of #Occupy or pointing out their numerous acts of violence or their general lawlessness translates into fighting for corruption and against the middle class. You act as if #Occupy did some noble and heroic thing when they linked arms to keep other #Occupy or "spectators" from interfering with a paramedic trying to save a life. To me that's simple normal behavior i'd expect from anyone and isn't praiseworthy in the slightest.
 

michal1980

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I fail to see how making fun of #Occupy or pointing out their numerous acts of violence or their general lawlessness translates into fighting for corruption and against the middle class. You act as if #Occupy did some noble and heroic thing when they linked arms to keep other #Occupy or "spectators" from interfering with a paramedic trying to save a life. To me that's simple normal behavior i'd expect from anyone and isn't praiseworthy in the slightest.

it like the Chris rock skit where the guy is proud he takes care of his kids. To which Chris responds " YOUR SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS"
 

Craig234

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I fail to see how making fun of #Occupy or pointing out their numerous acts of violence or their general lawlessness translates into fighting for corruption and against the middle class. You act as if #Occupy did some noble and heroic thing when they linked arms to keep other #Occupy or "spectators" from interfering with a paramedic trying to save a life. To me that's simple normal behavior i'd expect from anyone and isn't praiseworthy in the slightest.

You didn't read my post, not surprisingly. For example, this was lost on you:

...who would have nothing good to say about the protests no matter how peaceful they are...

Yes, the mindless constant attacks and ignoring the positive cause of the protests does serve the enemies of the cause of the protests, the corrupt wealthy.

You're just not going to get the point, so this is that 'waste of time' I mentioned.

I'm not saying that their helping protect the paramedics was especially heroic, I was saying that it was the behavior of the crowd to contrast it to the hyped violence.

It's serving the corrupt to do nothing but hype the negative about the protests and condemn them for flaws while not crediting what they're pushing for. You don't get it.

Pretend for a moment Hitler and holocaust was going on today, and the protests were against that. Do you think it would be more appropriate to support the cause, or to sit and say nothing but the attacks on every detail you can find about the protesters as you now do? If all you had to say was the nit picking attacks, just attacking the protests, you'd be supporting the enemy. It's ok to mention the flaws as long as you also support the cause and support the movement even if you call for specific improvements.
 

monovillage

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You didn't read my post, not surprisingly. For example, this was lost on you:



Yes, the mindless constant attacks and ignoring the positive cause of the protests does serve the enemies of the cause of the protests, the corrupt wealthy.

You're just not going to get the point, so this is that 'waste of time' I mentioned.

I'm not saying that their helping protect the paramedics was especially heroic, I was saying that it was the behavior of the crowd to contrast it to the hyped violence.

It's serving the corrupt to do nothing but hype the negative about the protests and condemn them for flaws while not crediting what they're pushing for. You don't get it.

Pretend for a moment Hitler and holocaust was going on today, and the protests were against that. Do you think it would be more appropriate to support the cause, or to sit and say nothing but the attacks on every detail you can find about the protesters as you now do? If all you had to say was the nit picking attacks, just attacking the protests, you'd be supporting the enemy. It's ok to mention the flaws as long as you also support the cause and support the movement even if you call for specific improvements.

I read your whole post, in fact i read it several times. I shortened it not because i didn't read it, but as an act of mercy for our fellow members. You say that since i don't agree with you on your many points that somehow i just don't get it. It's not that i don't get it, it's that i don't want it. I think you are wrong and that what you push is a mistake. You think that serving the corrupt is to point out the violence and lawlessness of the #Occupy protesters?
FFS don't bring Hitler into this.
 

palehorse

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It's ok to mention the flaws as long as you also support the cause and support the movement even if you call for specific improvements.
ok... that sentence is worth a thousand lols! seriously, you win one free interweb.

Translation: "if you're not with us, you're against us."

Improvements? Here's a few specific suggestions: How about changing your entire message, seeking entirely different outcomes, and redirecting your animosity and efforts toward the real root of the problems -- our completely corrupt Government and the laws they've written that allow for such corruption?

Too much to ask? Then I guess I must be "the enemy"...
 

michal1980

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You didn't read my post, not surprisingly. For example, this was lost on you:



Yes, the mindless constant attacks and ignoring the positive cause of the protests does serve the enemies of the cause of the protests, the corrupt wealthy.

You're just not going to get the point, so this is that 'waste of time' I mentioned.

I'm not saying that their helping protect the paramedics was especially heroic, I was saying that it was the behavior of the crowd to contrast it to the hyped violence.

It's serving the corrupt to do nothing but hype the negative about the protests and condemn them for flaws while not crediting what they're pushing for. You don't get it.

Pretend for a moment Hitler and holocaust was going on today, and the protests were against that. Do you think it would be more appropriate to support the cause, or to sit and say nothing but the attacks on every detail you can find about the protesters as you now do? If all you had to say was the nit picking attacks, just attacking the protests, you'd be supporting the enemy. It's ok to mention the flaws as long as you also support the cause and support the movement even if you call for specific improvements.

Hitler?

/End Thread Godwins Law

Theres abosuletly no point in adressing anything you say past this point. Because this one post completely proves you've lost it.
 

spidey07

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What I want to know and hear from OWS supporters is this:

1) How does it feel to start off with a communist message and now be surprised that commies have taken over your message, that was a commie message to begin with?
2) How does it feel to be a cesspool of disease, rape, and living by animal rule? Is this what you want? I'm ready if that's what you want you fucking animals.
3) How does it feel to have your "movement" disintegrate before your very eyes? How does it make you feel to see your dreams of a marxist utopia crumble before the will of Americans? Tell me, how do you feel?

Because I feel fucking GREAT! You've been exposed! You played your cards and America trumps your goals!
 

Phokus

Lifer
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What I want to know and hear from OWS supporters is this:

1) How does it feel to start off with a communist message and now be surprised that commies have taken over your message, that was a commie message to begin with?
2) How does it feel to be a cesspool of disease, rape, and living by animal rule? Is this what you want? I'm ready if that's what you want you fucking animals.
3) How does it feel to have your "movement" disintegrate before your very eyes? How does it make you feel to see your dreams of a marxist utopia crumble before the will of Americans? Tell me, how do you feel?

Because I feel fucking GREAT! You've been exposed! You played your cards and America trumps your goals!

Rick Perry WILL be our next President!
 

Carmen813

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May 18, 2007
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What I want to know and hear from OWS supporters is this:

1) How does it feel to start off with a communist message and now be surprised that commies have taken over your message, that was a commie message to begin with?
2) How does it feel to be a cesspool of disease, rape, and living by animal rule? Is this what you want? I'm ready if that's what you want you fucking animals.
3) How does it feel to have your "movement" disintegrate before your very eyes? How does it make you feel to see your dreams of a marxist utopia crumble before the will of Americans? Tell me, how do you feel?

Because I feel fucking GREAT! You've been exposed! You played your cards and America trumps your goals!

Fallacy of Accident - Check
Fallacy of Many Questions - Check
Straw Man - Check
Ad Hominem - Check
Argumentum ad baculum - Check
Argument from ignorance - Check
Red Herring - Check

Ladies and gentlemen we have a new world record.

I'm not particularly into extremist groups for either side since it creates the vitriol we have in our politics now. What's sad is that these groups simply maintain the existing status quo by distracting all of us from real issues, and people like Spidey eat it up.
 
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palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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I've got my popcorn ready for the Portland eviction at midnight pst tonight!

Always up for a good hippy beatdown.

I need to call you out on this. There's no need for unnecessary violence -- that's disgusting and wrong.

If they resist, then sure, knock some sense into them and lock 'em up. If not, though, there's no reason for anyone to get hurt -- including annoying and worthless hippies.

Save your strength for those who instigate a fight. The rest can retreat peacefully to the safety of their coffee shops and smoke themselves silly...
 
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spidey07

No Lifer
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I need to call you out on this. There's no need for unnecessary violence -- that's disgusting and wrong.

If they resist, then sure, knock some sense into them and lock 'em up. If not, though, there's no reason for anyone -- including annoying and worthless hippies -- getting hurt.

Save your strength for those who instigate a fight. The rest can retreat peacefully to the safety of their coffee shops and smoke themselves silly...

Oh there is going to be violence. Police have reported Portland occupiers digging in with fortifications and make shift weapons.
 

wuliheron

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The police are getting ready to raid the camp and tear it down. It'd be funny if they found a few tear gas booby traps.
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Oh there is going to be violence. Police have reported Portland occupiers digging in with fortifications and make shift weapons.
Spidey, I do hope you realize that's not a good thing. Regardless of how you or I feel about their politics, the pending violence is horrible... it's actually quite sad.
 

OrByte

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Jul 21, 2000
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What I want to know and hear from OWS supporters is this:

1) How does it feel to start off with a communist message and now be surprised that commies have taken over your message, that was a commie message to begin with?
2) How does it feel to be a cesspool of disease, rape, and living by animal rule? Is this what you want? I'm ready if that's what you want you fucking animals.
3) How does it feel to have your "movement" disintegrate before your very eyes? How does it make you feel to see your dreams of a marxist utopia crumble before the will of Americans? Tell me, how do you feel?

Because I feel fucking GREAT! You've been exposed! You played your cards and America trumps your goals!

Lol! Always good for a laugh spidey!!
 

OrByte

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Jul 21, 2000
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Fallacy of Accident - Check
Fallacy of Many Questions - Check
Straw Man - Check
Ad Hominem - Check
Argumentum ad baculum - Check
Argument from ignorance - Check
Red Herring - Check

Ladies and gentlemen we have a new world record.

I'm not particularly into extremist groups for either side since it creates the vitriol we have in our politics now. What's sad is that these groups simply maintain the existing status quo by distracting all of us from real issues, and people like Spidey eat it up.

Quality post Carmen!
 
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