#OccupyWallstreet

[bfdd]

The whole idea behind the OWS movement is to draw attention to this corruption. If enough Americans pull themselves away from Dancing with the Stars and empty partisan wedge issues long enough to realize we're being robbed, maybe they'll finally get off their lazy, inattentive asses and create enough pressure to force "our" government to fix it. The only two other options appear to be armed revolt or continuing to slide backwards until we're just another third-world serfdom. Of the three, I'll side with OWS in seeking a peaceful solution.

I have no issues with the OWS movement doing what they're doing, I think it's naive and to small, but whatever more power to them for doing it. I just tend to disagree with the wanting to use the force of the State to impose the will of an individual or group onto an individual or group. That's completely wrong to me and my biggest issue with OWS. I'd rather see the force derive from their own hands, than clamor for the hands of others to do the force. Even if we completely disagreed on every point, I'd still far more support a movement of such than what is currently out on the streets.

 

[dwell]

This interview sums it up:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/occu...ters-plan-move/story?id=14959906#.TsP1b0yCi4I

This girl is typical of what's left in Zuccotti Park. She has no cohesive message, just rambling about the same bullshit and the "potential" of the cause.

Also her with the nose ring and the dude in the background with the tattoos on his neck are wondering why they can't get jobs. Really?

 

[Craig234]

Who ADMINISTERED TARP?

How DARE the President administer programs that were passed? Who does he think he is?

 

[Genx87]

That's ridiculous. If the mayor ordered your entire town's police force to camp out on your lawn for no reason, the rest of the town would be 'paying for it' but it wouldn't make it your responsibility.

The level of police involvement was most certainly elective. But hey, I've only been there myself repeatedly. I'm sure in your many visits to Zuccotti Park you found differently. Maybe you can explain what attributes you witnessed that made you think otherwise.

Come on, any large group of people will require some sort of protection or the area need protection from them.

 

[Genx87]

Juan Cole:

Oh the horror of authorities seeking out guidance from people who are dealing with a similar situation.

 

[Craig234]

This interview sums it up:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/occu...ters-plan-move/story?id=14959906#.TsP1b0yCi4I

This girl is typical of what's left in Zuccotti Park. She has no cohesive message, just rambling about the same bullshit and the "potential" of the cause.

Also her with the nose ring and the dude in the background with the tattoos on his neck are wondering why they can't get jobs. Really?

It's terrible when people fighting for good are like that, neatly dressed means correct.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2053797,00.html

 

[Macamus Prime]

Stay safe New York, especially at macy's parade.

Don't sensationalize your sick fantasies of murdering and harming innocent people in NYC, because you hate yourself so much you allow your vileness to spill over onto those you think are at fault for your awful miserable life.

You want the OWS protestors to harm innocent people, just so you can say; "LOOK!!! LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID!!"

You don't know this city. You don't know it's people. We don't need your mocking wishes to "stay safe".

And, you even mention a specific event. The Macy's parade doesn't go anywhere NEAR the OWS site.

More importantly, why would they do any harm to families on Thanksgiving day?

You are disgusting.

By your example, which you have deemed "correct", the poor and middle class have been hunting down and harming the rich. You honestly don't see the HUGE difference between what you wish to happen and what is the reality??

 

[dwell]

It's terrible when people fighting for good are like that, neatly dressed means correct.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2053797,00.html

Ah, Godwin's Law. Refuge for the losers.

 

[bfdd]

This interview sums it up:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/occu...ters-plan-move/story?id=14959906#.TsP1b0yCi4I

This girl is typical of what's left in Zuccotti Park. She has no cohesive message, just rambling about the same bullshit and the "potential" of the cause.

Also her with the nose ring and the dude in the background with the tattoos on his neck are wondering why they can't get jobs. Really?

I give a fuck less what they look like and more what they actually do. I know people with tats and piercings that have no issues with employment.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Sweetie, I know you're immune to facts, but it was GW Bush who signed TARP. You may now ignore this and continue your insane ranting.

I doubt it matters...but here's a fact for you...Democrats overwhelmingly supported both porkulus bills. But hey...we all know it was really Bush's fault.

Tarp I Vote - Signed by Bush
House
Democrats voted 172 to 63 in favor of Tarp I
Republicans voted 108 to 91 against it
Senate
Approved by a 74–25 vote
Democrats voted 40 to 9 in favor of Tarp I
Republicans voted 33 to 15 in favor
Obama signed the Tarp Oversight Bill
http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0409/Obama_signs_TARP_oversight_bill.html

Porkulus II Vote - Signed by Obama
House (Passed 260-166)
Democrats voted 241 to 10 in favor of Tarp II
Republicans voted 156 to 19 against it
Senate (Passed 88–10)
Democrats voted 57 to 1 in favor of Tarp II
Republicans voted 30 to 9 in favor

 

[fskimospy]

Who ADMINISTERED TARP?

Who do you think administered TARP?

 

[spidey07]

Don't sensationalize your sick fantasies of murdering and harming innocent people in NYC, because you hate yourself so much you allow your vileness to spill over onto those you think are at fault for your awful miserable life.

You want the OWS protestors to harm innocent people, just so you can say; "LOOK!!! LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID!!"

You don't know this city. You don't know it's people. We don't need your mocking wishes to "stay safe".

And, you even mention a specific event. The Macy's parade doesn't go anywhere NEAR the OWS site.

More importantly, why would they do any harm to families on Thanksgiving day?

You are disgusting.

By your example, which you have deemed "correct", the poor and middle class have been hunting down and harming the rich. You honestly don't see the HUGE difference between what you wish to happen and what is the reality??

Look, I'm not the one committing all the violence and unlawful behavior. The OWS people are. That's what's funny about OWS supporters, they will completely ignore the violence and lawlessness somehow thinking it's OK because it's "for a good cause".

And about the parade? There have been many rumblings they have something big planned for it, just be safe.

 

[IGBT]

there was never a public romance with the ows squatters. The last thing the obama (street agitator in chief) wants is a ows squatter party going on during elections.

 

[fskimospy]

I doubt it matters...but here's a fact for you...Democrats overwhelmingly supported both porkulus bills. But hey...we all know it was really Bush's fault.

Tarp I Vote - Signed by Bush
House
Democrats voted 172 to 63 in favor of Tarp I
Republicans voted 108 to 91 against it
Senate
Approved by a 74–25 vote
Democrats voted 40 to 9 in favor of Tarp I
Republicans voted 33 to 15 in favor

Tarp II Vote - Signed by Obama
House (Passed 260-166)
Democrats voted 241 to 10 in favor of Tarp II
Republicans voted 156 to 19 against it
Senate (Passed 88–10)
Democrats voted 57 to 1 in favor of Tarp II
Republicans voted 30 to 9 in favor

We were talking about Spidey's rant about which president was responsible for TARP, not which party was most responsible for its existence.

Regardless, TARP was a good idea so I'm glad that both Bush signed it and that the Democrats got it through the Congress.

 

[Macamus Prime]

Look, I'm not the one committing all the violence and unlawful behavior. The OWS people are. That's what's funny about OWS supporters, they will completely ignore the violence and lawlessness somehow thinking it's OK because it's "for a good cause".

And about the parade? There have been many rumblings they have something big planned for it, just be safe.

You are the one wishing harm for the purposes of sensantionlizing and vilifying those you hate - I hope you get what you deserve.

You truly are an awful human being.

 

[Bowfinger]

I doubt it matters...but here's a fact for you...Democrats overwhelmingly supported both porkulus bills. But hey...we all know it was really Bush's fault. ...

How about you learn to read you stupid ass? It was Spidey who tried to blame TARP on Obama. I just pointed out he was wrong. I said absolutely nothing whatsoever suggesting it was all Bush's fault. That's just your pugnacious compulsion to wade in and attack whenever you can.

Now if you had an ounce of integrity you'd apologize for your misdirected attack. I won't hold my breath.

 

[bfdd]

How about your learn to read you stupid ass? It was Spidey who tried to blame TARP on Obama. I just pointed out he was wrong. I said absolutely nothing whatsoever suggesting it was all Bush's fault. That's just your pugnacious compulsion to wade in and attack whenever you can.

Now if you had an ounce of integrity you'd apologize for your misdirected attack. I won't hold my breath.

Now you know how I feel

 

[spidey07]

How about your learn to read you stupid ass? It was Spidey who tried to blame TARP on Obama. I just pointed out he was wrong. I said absolutely nothing whatsoever suggesting it was all Bush's fault. That's just your pugnacious compulsion to wade in and attack whenever you can.

Now if you had an ounce of integrity you'd apologize for your misdirected attack. I won't hold my breath.

Did or did Not obama and his administration administer/oversee TARP and porkulus?

Answer the question.

WHY are there no anti-obama signs at all these protests? WHY are they not lashing out at this administration that did the very things they are against? Why do you think that is?

Useful. Idiots.

 

[Bowfinger]

Now you know how I feel

Touche.

 

[HendrixFan]

only 2 dozen at zucotti last night.
HAHA!

I thought we were all laughing at how many of them had nothing better to do than occupy?

Wait, are you telling me that your derision of them has no substance and instead you can find a way to negatively cast them regardless of what is going on? I'm shocked.

 

[HendrixFan]

Did or did Not obama and his administration administer/oversee TARP and porkulus?

Answer the question.

WHY are there no anti-obama signs at all these protests? WHY are they not lashing out at this administration that did the very things they are against? Why do you think that is?

Useful. Idiots.

Just how many signs do you see against Republicans out there? OWS is, as the name subtly hints at, about Wall Street first and foremost. It isn't about Congress or the White House directly because they are puppets to Wall Street. The source of the problem is Wall Street, government is only a symptom. Voting in or out a party does nothing to change the problem because they aren't the problem. They are the symptom.

Protesting Obama, or Bush or whoever would be missing the point. It isn't shocking then that you would suggest just that.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

We were talking about Spidey's rant about which president was responsible for TARP, not which party was most responsible for its existence.

Both Bush and Obama were responsible for Tarp I...surely you know this. As a courtesy...Bush asked Obama on January 12, 2009 if he wanted for him to proceed getting the second installment of the TARP funds...Obama immediately requested the funds.
http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/rep_bios.php?rep_id=18222976&category=views&id=20110316075944

Regardless, TARP was a good idea so I'm glad that both Bush signed it and that the Democrats got it through the Congress.

Agree...Tarp was a necessary evil at the time...but it was horribly administered imo.

 

[fskimospy]

Both Bush and Obama were responsible for Tarp I...surely you know this. As a courtesy...Bush asked Obama on January 12, 2009 if he wanted for him to proceed getting the second installment of the TARP funds...Obama immediately requested the funds.
http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/rep_bios.php?rep_id=18222976&category=views&id=20110316075944

Right, so you are agreeing with us.

 

[Macamus Prime]

Wait, are you telling me that your derision of them has no substance and instead you can find a way to negatively cast them regardless of what is going on?

Worse; now they are wishing/hoping they commit murder.

Funny how most of those who have formed a pretty fucking strong opinion on OWS participants, and how truly evil they are, aren't even affected by this "event". No one even really lives at Wall Street. It's office buildings.

And you think Wall Street business men really care? No one cares. Not a single NY'er cares about what happens at Wall Street and the protestors.

Some of you need to go back to your cement bunker, eat your canned beans, polish your rifles and leave civilization alone. Keep your comments on this to those you communicate with through your ham radios, or whatever you like using to ensure the gubnament isn't controlling your thoughts.

Damn inbred swine filth.

 

[Craig234]

Did or did Not obama and his administration administer/oversee TARP and porkulus?

Answer the question.

WHY are there no anti-obama signs at all these protests? WHY are they not lashing out at this administration that did the very things they are against? Why do you think that is?

Useful. Idiots.

When the mob buys off police, WHY aren't the efforts to combat that aimed at the police instead of the mob? Don't they understand if you remove some corrupt police, it fixes it?