Funny, i guess as long as it's the FBI and other security forces infiltrating right-wing and religious groups it's perfectly acceptable, but when it infiltrates violent left -wing groups like #Occupy it's somehow illegal.
News showing what looks like an empty park. So the protest is over?
I see the extremists are still going strong in here.....................
What an amazingly ignorant comment. Perhaps you should learn what the Bill of Rights does and doesn't protect.
No. Try going to ustream.tv/theother99
Main stream media is showing vacant parks and empty streets instead of showing where the action is.
They're doing this to influence people dumb enough to get all of their news from mainstream media.
This has always been done.
Just think of how stupid people have been kept in the past before the internet. If this was going on in the 80's or 90's, barely anybody would know anything was happening. Surely there wouldn't be close to the numbers in the street.
Mainstream media is a tool of corporations and the government to trick people into doing what they want, and thinking what they want you to think.
If you really want to see what's happening, check news sites like RT, Al Jazeera english, or various independent press operating on ustream and other such sites.
Funny, i guess as long as it's the FBI and other security forces infiltrating right-wing and religious groups it's perfectly acceptable, but when it infiltrates violent left -wing groups like #Occupy it's somehow illegal.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1281771534001/downtown-workers-in-nyc-take-on-occupy-protesters
Join the 53% who pay taxes!
The media coverage has dropped to an all time low. The movement was a failure, get over it.
So preventing other Americans from traveling freely to and from their jobs isn't a violation of their rights.
You expect someone to respect your rights......start by respecting their rights.
So preventing other Americans from traveling freely to and from their jobs isn't a violation of their rights.
You expect someone to respect your rights......start by respecting their rights.
Originally Posted by Londo_Jowo
So preventing other Americans from traveling freely to and from their jobs isn't a violation of their rights.
You expect someone to respect your rights......start by respecting their rights.
I'm getting tired of replying to your nonsense.
When the 'infiltration' is legitimately for capturing seriously violent people, it's pretty accepted. Militias tend more to be that threat. Timothy McVeigh's group was.
When the 'infiltration' is of 'Grandmothers against war' - as it has been - when it is used to INITIATE violence to discredit the protesters as it has been - that's a different thing.
I've seen no real threat of personal violence from OWS; there have been some who do property damage.
I don't mind much the authorities 'monitoring' to help identify if any real risks come up - that's a far cry from sabotaging the protests.
Law enforcement legitimately protecting is one thing. Law enforcement undermining movements because the powerful interests want them undermined is another.
Keep it classy riot police. What would you do if some asshole pepper sprayed your grandma?
Uh, by "asshole" you mean a cop? I'd tell my grandma to not place herself in a situation or place to be pepper sprayed by a cop.
Blaming the victim is the most stupid position you can take in any situation. There was also a pregnant woman pepper sprayed in the same incident.
This is like when israel flys down a street with an attack helicopter firing off missiles randomly to kill a single unarmed person. At some point you have to take responsibility for your actions.
If a protester had pepper spray and went to spray one cop and it effected 20 cops, he' be held accountable for all 20 cops.
Blaming the victim is the most stupid position you can take in any situation. There was also a pregnant woman pepper sprayed in the same incident.
This is like when israel flys down a street with an attack helicopter firing off missiles randomly to kill a single unarmed person. At some point you have to take responsibility for your actions.
If a protester had pepper spray and went to spray one cop and it effected 20 cops, he' be held accountable for all 20 cops.
Were these people informed if they didn't disperse pepper spray would be used? Yes
Did these people ignore these warnings? Yes
They deserve absolutely no sympathy as they knew the consequences of their actions.
Maybe the OWS people should take a close look at themselves, how many people's constitutional rights have been violated by their protests?
Were these people informed if they didn't disperse pepper spray would be used? Yes
Did these people ignore these warnings? Yes
They deserve absolutely no sympathy as they knew the consequences of their actions.
What an amazingly ignorant comment. Perhaps you should learn what the Bill of Rights does and doesn't protect.
I see the extremists are still going strong in here.
In my 3 day break from the forums I've had plenty of time to lurk around various sites and watch hours of live stream ows footage.
2 things really stand out. 1, police over-reaction. 2, main stream media lack of coverage and/or black out when they want to cover something.
A third would just be the constant drone of people who oppose #occupy with one breath and then also oppose the government with another breath because a democrat is in office. These trolls make it so easy, so we should at least thank them for that.
So, thankyou spidey, dwell, and all of the others I'm not going to waste my time listing off. With every extreme comment you post you just show the rationally thinking members of the board just how hard change is to accomplish. We have people who are such drones that they literally oppose the government and then oppose the people who oppose the government at the same time without thinking that they are opposing themselves.
Funny, i guess as long as it's the FBI and other security forces infiltrating right-wing and religious groups it's perfectly acceptable, but when it infiltrates violent left -wing groups like #Occupy it's somehow illegal.
None.