#OccupyWallstreet

[davmat787]

Which part? Eliminating ALL money from the processes, or exempting Unions?

I want *all money eliminated from the process, unions included. IANAL, but want whatever language allows for the least amount of potential wiggle room. However it is potentially written, some group will challenge most likely. That make sense?

edit: to be clear, individual donations would be fine of course, within reason.

 

[cybrsage]

I support fire departments using water cannons

That does solve the issue. Good for you on coming up with a compromise!

The odor goes away and yet rape stations are not installed. Everyone wins!

 

[cybrsage]

I want all money eliminated from the process, unions included. IAMAL, but want whatever language allows for the least amount of potential wiggle room. However it is potentially written, some group will challenge most likely. That make sense?

I think it should be pretty simply worded than. Something which basically says they can only use the Presidential Fund...and such a thing wll need to be setup for Congress as well.

 

[Craig234]

That does solve the issue. Good for you on coming up with a compromise!

The odor goes away and yet rape stations are not installed. Everyone wins!

Except you smell far worse than any protester not bathed for weeks. They have the perfume of principle, and you don't.

 

[PeshakJang]

Tired of idiots here calling names of people who are the only patriots between them.

I support tax-funded bathrooms with showers for the protesters, solves 'issue'.

So Craig now deems college-aged hipsters who shit on police cars, attack public servants, and disrupt working-class families and businesses as the only true Patriots.

You heard it, that's exactly what he said.

Shit on a car and punch a cop while you protest Wall Street? Patriot.

Draw a social security check while you protest the Government? Koch-funded hypocrit neocon coward.

You're a fucking idiot, Craig. I hope you understand that. A plain Idiot.

 

[cybrsage]

Except you smell far worse than any protester not bathed for weeks. They have the perfume of principle, and you don't.

Ah...I see. I did not know you were a moron. I now understand that you are not even intelligent enough to even realize that there is no way you know how I smell. Just so you know, what you are smelling is your own odor...computers do not send scent across the Internet.

 

[PeshakJang]

Except you smell far worse than any protester not bathed for weeks. They have the perfume of principle, and you don't.

As opposed to your many principles, of which you can selectively apply to any current situation. Much better.

 

[Craig234]

Ah, the forum smells better with that cleaning.

This message is hidden because cybrsage is on your ignore list.

 

[davmat787]

So Craig now deems college-aged hipsters who shit on police cars, attack public servants, and disrupt working-class families and businesses as the only true Patriots.

You heard it, that's exactly what he said.

Shit on a car and punch a cop while you protest Wall Street? Patriot.

Draw a social security check while you protest the Government? Koch-funded hypocrit neocon coward.

You're a fucking idiot, Craig. I hope you understand that. A plain Idiot.

Don't forget masturbation too. Craig openly supported OWS members beating off in public in this thread:

People masturbate. If thousands of people making the sacrifice to stay out in public for the good of the people have some who do so technically 'in public', ok with me.

 

[davmat787]

Ah, the forum smells better with that cleaning.

This message is hidden because cybrsage is on your ignore list.

Why would you put him on ignore? For calling you a moron?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Ah, the forum smells better with that cleaning.

This message is hidden because cybrsage is on your ignore list.

Sniffle, sniffle, sniffle Mommie cybrsage is being mean to me

 

[PeshakJang]

Why would you put him on ignore? For calling you a moron?

He regularly backs out of arguments he's lost by "ignoring" people, and then making overt comments about his doing so.

I put quotes around "ignoring" because he frequently uses the threat of ignoring as if it would have some sort of impact on others. Often times he claims to ignore somebody simply to escape an argument, while never really placing them on his list. He's been caught several times doing this.

 

[Craig234]

Don't forget masturbation too. Craig openly supported OWS members beating off in public in this thread:

Let's be clear. What I'm saying is that the movement should not be condemned for the inevitable bad behaviors and problems that will always come with groups in this situation.

I'm not 'supporting the behavior'.

I'm saying my support for the movement is not affected by the behavior.

There are idiots who are going to make an issue of every unpleasant thing they can find anyone in the movement does, effectively fighting the movement. They're wrong.

 

[PeshakJang]

Let's be clear. What I'm saying is that the movement should not be condemned for the inevitable bad behaviors and problems that will always come with groups in this situation.

I'm not 'supporting the behavior'.

I'm saying my support for the movement is not affected by the behavior.

There are idiots who are going to make an issue of every unpleasant thing they can find anyone in the movement does, effectively fighting the movement. They're wrong.

Quoting now, because you've done the opposite so many times, this is going to be worth something some day. Thanks idiot.

 

[davmat787]

He regularly backs out of arguments he's lost by "ignoring" people, and then making overt comments about his doing so.

I put quotes around "ignoring" because he frequently uses the threat of ignoring as if it would have some sort of impact on others. Often times he claims to ignore somebody simply to escape an argument, while never really placing them on his list. He's been caught several times doing this.

Yea, I am familiar with his multi-tiered "ignore" schema. I just find it hypocritical for him to put someone on ignore for what? Calling him a moron when Craig234 routinely calls people idiots?

Whatever, to anyone with a brain it is plainly a transparent ploy for exerting that last bit of control over and/or to punish someone you disagree with, or as you say, lost an argument too.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I wonder if the leftists here support these "occupiers"

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=33746

 

[palehorse]

I wonder if the leftists here support these "occupiers"

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=33746

LOL, perfect!

 

[JSt0rm]

perfect except there aren't enough jobs and thats part of the reason the people are protesting. But yeah other then the fact there isn't any work they should all totally get back to it.

 

[palehorse]

perfect except there aren't enough jobs and thats part of the reason the people are protesting. But yeah other then the fact there isn't any work they should all totally get back to it.

They could always join the services; but, they'd have to give up their drugs, of course...

 

[Nebor]

perfect except there aren't enough jobs and thats part of the reason the people are protesting. But yeah other then the fact there isn't any work they should all totally get back to it.

If it's any consolation there's not enough jobs at Bagram Airfield either. With a population of some 24,000 service members and contractors, you'll find long lines at the several post exchanges, Green Bean Coffee houses, Dairy Queen, and movie theaters throughout the day. In the evenings some of the large buildings are bustling with the activity of themed dances, with a different theme every night of the week, including salsa night, country western night, hip hop night, etc.

 

[JSt0rm]

They could always join the services; but, they'd have to give up their drugs, of course...

interesting that you bring that up. How many people could join the service? Lets say 10% of those who are unemployed joined the services, 1.46 million people (out of over 14.6 million) ...

Oh look the total number of people in all of the armed services is 1,431,403


The latest US armed forces strength figures as of May 31, 2011 stood at 1,431,403. Obviously, these statistic change over time. For more figures, feel free to visit the Statistical Information Analysis Division (SIAD) web site (click here)
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So I guess they couldn't join the armed services as there would be to many people.

Look how dumb you are.

 

[JSt0rm]

If it's any consolation there's not enough jobs at Bagram Airfield either. With a population of some 24,000 service members and contractors, you'll find long lines at the several post exchanges, Green Bean Coffee houses, Dairy Queen, and movie theaters throughout the day. In the evenings some of the large buildings are bustling with the activity of themed dances, with a different theme every night of the week, including salsa night, country western night, hip hop night, etc.

But they have all their guns out! Its not dangerous there?

 

[davmat787]

If it's any consolation there's not enough jobs at Bagram Airfield either. With a population of some 24,000 service members and contractors, you'll find long lines at the several post exchanges, Green Bean Coffee houses, Dairy Queen, and movie theaters throughout the day. In the evenings some of the large buildings are bustling with the activity of themed dances, with a different theme every night of the week, including salsa night, country western night, hip hop night, etc.

Can you bring your guns to hip hop night?

 

[palehorse]

Can you bring your guns to hip hop night?

Absolutely.

You never leave your weapon anywhere beyond reach, for any reason...

 

[Nebor]

But they have all their guns out! Its not dangerous there?

No. You can check the Bagram wiki for specifics, but the only real danger is indirect fire. They used to take indirect fire every day, but it's pretty sporadic now. There was one "spectacular" attack against BAF in 2010, with a dozen suicide bombers and small arms fire, but the airmen in the towers killed them all. IIRC 9 or 10 US forces were injured, but no one was killed.

I had a couple of rockets hit 100-150m away from me one night in 2010 while I was walking along Disney Ave (the main drag on BAF.) I saw the flash, and then the boom, and then another flash, and another boom, I'm sure the delay was exagerated in my brain. But I stood there with another Army officer and said, "What the fuck is that?" And he was like, "I think it's rockets or mortars or something." At that point all the BAF residents started running around like ants in a mound that got kicked. Some Air Force Security Forces guys told us to get in the hospital because it was "hardened." So we're crowded in there with a ton of airmen, some of whom are wearing all their armor, kevlar, etc. and I hear this airman go, "Do you think salsa night is going to start back up after this?"

After hanging out in there for about half an hour, myself, the other US Army officer and a Jordanian psychiatrist Colonel conspire to leave the hospital to go back to the visitor billets, since we figured neither building was going to stop a rocket, and frankly I'd rather die playing PSP than listen to airmen complain about the woes of BAF life. We thought we were being pretty slick avoiding the security forces patrols, ducking behind cargo containers and whatnot, and we were about 200m away from our little hut when a HMMWV comes roaring up with lights and sirens and hits us with the lights. As the security forces NCO explained as he escorted us back to the hospital, their aerial surveillance saw us on thermal sneaking around and they thought we were bad guys infiltrating the camp.