I assume your tactic here is to just keep repeating this over and over in the hope it eventually becomes true? Here's a tip: it also helps if you click the heels on your ruby slippers. There's no place like denial. There's no place like denial.
I assume your tactic here is to just keep repeating this over and over in the hope it eventually becomes true? Here's a tip: it also helps if you click the heels on your ruby slippers. There's no place like denial. There's no place like denial.Let's cut to the chase, this OWS movement has failed and will never amount to anything. No matter how much you try get attention it's not going to make a difference. The media is no longer covering OWS or the lame attempts to blame police for miscarriages or supposed brutality.......no one's buying it except those hardcore supporters.
But the reality is that you don't know anything about it. Unless you were there you are only forming an opinion based on what you want to be true. This is why we have a legal system, we will get to the bottom of this and hopefully the truth will come out. Surely you think there should be a investigation anytime something like this happens yes?
I assume your tactic here is to just keep repeating this over and over in the hope it eventually becomes true? Here's a tip: it also helps if you click the heels on your ruby slippers. There's no place like denial. There's no place like denial.
Nope, doesn't matter.
Law breaking does not inherently equal violence, as we already discussed. (cheating on your taxes is not a violent act, although it breaks the law) A police officer warning someone does not make the person he is warning violent.
Keep trying to justify chemical attacks on seated, nonthreatening people though.
No.
Maybe the cop should be charged for running an illegal abortion clinic?
You want to play absurd superlatives?
Once again, I suspect your sarcasm will be lost on the OWS bashers. They'll probably read that and wonder when you changed positions.Once again, I'm glad to see that the responsibility for resolving these situations without violence falls on the citizens and not the trained public servent.
I love how you guys are totally okay with incompetence in the public sector so long as it leads to violence against protesters.
Nonthreatening is your judgement call, you don't really know, you weren't there.
Oh my god.
You can't be serious.
You made the same claim about other scenarios, such as police officers beating on the belly of an 8 month pregnant woman. Looks kind of foolish doesn't it?
Once again, I suspect your sarcasm will be lost on the OWS bashers. They'll probably read that and wonder when you changed positions.
In the same vein, here's a quote reportedly from a French police captain, based on his experiences responding to both protests and actual riots. I ran across it second-hand via an author I follow, and don't have an original citation (so one can accept or discount the purported source as desired). Nonetheless, I believe it hits the heart of the matter:"One way of doing things wrong is to assign untrained police officers to riot control duties. As I said, it's a specialist's job. Training is necessary in order not to fly off the handle just because the ugly punk in front of the line has thrown a large stone at you. Training is necessary because you never ever break ranks, no matter how bad you're being attacked. Training is necessary because you shouldn't be trying to settle a score with whoever is in front of your line. Training is necessary because riot control's ultimate goal is to make sure that the rioter in front of you goes home safely tonight, even if you end up in the infirmary. He's a citizen, you're a police officer, his life is more important than yours."In my opinion, we are seeing too many cases of public safety personnel behaving unprofessionally. In some notorious cases we've seen a few officers abusing authority and actively attacking peaceful protestors. I would think in many cases those officers will eventually be disciplined and may even find themselves in court as defendents. As long as such incidents remain relatively isolated, they reflect far more on those individual officers rather than their organizations as a whole.
The other, more troubling problem is that many police agencies seem to be deliberately inflaming tensions with local protests, provoking confrontations that don't need to happen. I assume this is being driven from above, from police management at a minimum, and likely from local mayors and other political forces. The excuses used have usually been transparently dishonest, reflecting an institutional corruption.
I should add there are also cases where OWS protestors and public safety agencies have continued to coexist peacefully. This usually involves protestors who are well-behaved and cooperative as well as peace officers who respect the protestors' rights and refrain from unnecessary confrontations. Those cases are a win-win. Kudos to the agencies and protestors who have worked this way.
Probably not. You've posted the same thing in this thread dozens of times without making any impact.You should post this 3 or 4 more times, maybe it will help win support for the OWS movement. It needs all the help it can find.
You should post this 3 or 4 more times, maybe it will help win support for the OWS movement. It needs all the help it can find.
Probably not. You've posted the same thing in this thread dozens of times without making any impact.
Excessive not found.
The criminals were given ample time to comply with a lawful command.
That's not the claim I made, I meant I hadn't read enough about it. There is a video of kids sitting there passively as they are calmly pepper sprayed by a police officer casually walking around them. On what planet do you live where that behavior is threatening?
You've descended into absurdity to avoid admitting you're wrong.
Can you provide ANY evidence that ANY investors have been impacted by OWS' efforts to date?
The MPAA rating system?! LOL, wow! You certainly have low expectations and standards for the type of "self regulation" we need to change the entire corrupt system. Please tell me you were joking...
I assume your tactic here is to just keep repeating this over and over in the hope it eventually becomes true? Here's a tip: it also helps if you click the heels on your ruby slippers. There's no place like denial. There's no place like denial.
You're the one being "absurd."
Negligent Endangerment of a Child may actually be applicable if they can prove that the woman knew about the risks ahead of time AND that she willfully ignored any lawful orders issued by the officers. This is especially true for the woman who was in her third trimester.
Some may even consider her negligent actions as on par with illegal late-term abortions.
Likely to happen? No, but it's certainly less "absurd" than your "illegal abortion clinic" nonsense...
No, in my opinion the claims of non-violence end after protesters break the law and then when warned by police break the law again and then need to be forcibly removed and/or dealt with. I think it's another poster that seems to be fine with police gently picking up each protester by the arms/legs after prying them apart. Not me.
No, in my opinion the claims of non-violence end after protesters break the law and then when warned by police break the law again and then need to be forcibly removed and/or dealt with. I think it's another poster that seems to be fine with police gently picking up each protester by the arms/legs after prying them apart. Not me.
You're the one being "absurd."
Negligent Endangerment of a Child may actually be applicable if they can prove that the woman knew about the risks ahead of time AND that she willfully ignored any lawful orders issued by the officers. This is especially true for the woman who was in her third trimester.
Some may even consider her negligent actions as on par with illegal late-term abortions.
Likely to happen? No, but it's certainly less "absurd" than your "illegal abortion clinic" nonsense...
Oh, so they have the right to threaten a woman's baby to get her to comply with what they want her to do. I get it.
Do what we say now or your baby (might) get hurt.
What "abortion"? There was no abortion in these cases.Which were instigated by the police officer. Which means, by that same line of reasoning, that people would want to do violent things to the cop because he induced the abortion.
I believe one could successfully argue that the 8-month old fetus has the same status, legally, as any 8-month old fetus involved in an illegal late-term abortion case.Its not a child though. However I'm not totally up on the laws of the land and how much a expectant other can sue or not sue or be charged herself for what happens to her fetus.
No wonder righties want to have guns. They think the police should be able to violence whoever they want for the smallest infractions. That must be a scary world to live in.