#OccupyWallstreet

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Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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Did I read that the park would be clean and the protesters would not be allow to bring back their gears (sleeping bags, tents, etc.)?
 

spidey07

No Lifer
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Did I read that the park would be clean and the protesters would not be allow to bring back their gears (sleeping bags, tents, etc.)?

Yep. They have no concept of property and believe they can just hang wherever they want.
 

Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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Did I read that the park would be clean and the protesters would not be allow to bring back their gears (sleeping bags, tents, etc.)?

Yes. The protestors' position is that it's an attempt to close them down. Their response is to say they'll clean the park, and the AFL-CIO has asked for members to go there tonight.
 

Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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Yep. They have no concept of property and believe they can just hang wherever they want.

They, like Wall Street, understand the property being taken from them - Wall Street thinks they can take any trillions of others' dollars they want.

Wall Street has about as much respect for property as the average burglar - they respect its value and want it for themselves. Destroy democracy to get it, happy to.

There's an old saying, kill one person it's murder; be a general and kill a million, you're a hero. Steal a stereo, you're a thief; steal a trillion, you're a Wall Street whiz.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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There's an old saying, kill one person it's murder; be a general and kill a million, you're a hero. Steal a stereo, you're a thief; steal a trillion, you're a Wall Street whiz.

If only those Wall Street whizzes would fund a few heroes to repel the occupation! :biggrin:
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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People looking for jobs doesn't create jobs. This economy will not support full employment. That is non-debatable. There are not droves of empty positions waiting to be filled. That is a fact. Consequently, "laziness" of unemployed people is irrelevant. It might be 1% or 99% that are lazy. It doesn't matter. Let's say that 99% are lazy, and a bunch of those people suddenly unlazied themselves and started trying really hard to get jobs, even trying for low paying jobs as you suggest. The jobs aren't there. Some might get jobs, sure, but then they're displacing others. They aren't going to lower the total amount of unemployment because they get jobs for themselves. Again, you do not create a job by trying really hard to get a job. That isn't how the economy works. "Lazy" only matters if there is a labor shortage and lots of unfilled positions out there. That isn't the case right now.

I'm talking about stealing jobs from illegals who shouldn't even have/be doing them in the first place. These are AMERICAN jobs that AMERICANs can do. We don't count illegals in our unemployment/employment numbers do we? There's a few million jobs out there that are unaccounted for at the moment. Start taking those and then start bitching, until then WAAH WAAH part of the problem not the solution. Babies.
 

monovillage

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I guess that Wall Street is the new boogieman. We'll start seeing commercials "Wall Street pushed me down and I can't get up! or a father will ask his kid "who broke that window?" The kid will say "Wall Street did! Honest!" We'll probably see all sorts of kids with the last name of Street since Wall Street will be on their birth certificates. 4 out of 5 dentists will blame Wall Street for cavities. Play the Wall Street blame game today!
 

michal1980

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Mar 7, 2003
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When did Republicans become pod parrot talking point spouters? Idiots.

What repuclican are you talking about? for someone calling people out as idiots and parrots, you sure are quick to label others.


I'm stilling waiting for someone to define / clarify for the majority what the OWS crowd wants, and what their gerviances are.

The thing is, no one can, becauses its a large group of angry people, each of which wants something else. The only common thread is their hatered for Wall street and capitalism. A claim which they will deny because they know if they admited the truth they would lose even more support.
 

novasatori

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Feb 27, 2003
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What repuclican are you talking about? for someone calling people out as idiots and parrots, you sure are quick to label others.


I'm stilling waiting for someone to define / clarify for the majority what the OWS crowd wants, and what their gerviances are.

The thing is, no one can, becauses its a large group of angry people, each of which wants something else. The only common thread is their hatered for Wall street and capitalism. A claim which they will deny because they know if they admited the truth they would lose even more support.
 

randomrogue

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For those that are interested there are huge campaigns in different cities and most countries for #occupy

Checkout meetup.com and similar sights to find these groups.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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I'm stilling waiting for someone to define / clarify for the majority what the OWS crowd wants, and what their gerviances are.

Far as I know they want to end rich people. No more wealth.

Their PR will call it fair share, but it simply comes down to being hungry and wanting more. Yet their hunger knows no bounds, and once able to take a bite they'll continue til their meal is gone.

What they demand is the government tit.

The thing is, no one can, becauses its a large group of angry people, each of which wants something else. The only common thread is their hatered for Wall street and capitalism. A claim which they will deny because they know if they admited the truth they would lose even more support.

It's an angry mob. Not yet violent, but it's quite impossible to sate their appetite. Without the possibility of feeding them til their full, well use your imagination to see where it goes from there.
 

novasatori

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so when are the OWS going to stop using products made by large corporations?


I'm glad you are confirming that they are anti-capitalists. At least one of you is honest.

so thinking corporations have too much power is being anti-capitalist?
what is capitalist about bailing out too big to fail businesses? what is capitalist about letting companies participate in drafting legislation that will benefit them and hurt their competitors?

you seem to be an idiot
 

michal1980

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Mar 7, 2003
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so thinking corporations have too much power is being anti-capitalist?
what is capitalist about bailing out too big to fail businesses? what is capitalist about letting companies participate in drafting legislation that will benefit them and hurt their competitors?

you seem to be an idiot

That is not what they're after. They hate business because it has more money then them. They hate business because they thought after graduating with a lib arts degree big buisness will give them all free bmws, and free houses on 5th ave. And then reality hit and it wasn't a gravy train.

I dont agree with companies being bailed out. You take risks and fail, you go under. I dont agree with them writing rules thats favor one company or another.

But I dont agree that there is such a thing as too much profit. I dont agree that business is some how 'robbing' the poor, and taking their money. I dont agree the rich should pay more in taxes. I dont agree that government should make everyone equal.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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I guess that Wall Street is the new boogieman. We'll start seeing commercials "Wall Street pushed me down and I can't get up! or a father will ask his kid "who broke that window?" The kid will say "Wall Street did! Honest!" We'll probably see all sorts of kids with the last name of Street since Wall Street will be on their birth certificates. 4 out of 5 dentists will blame Wall Street for cavities. Play the Wall Street blame game today!


Haven't you heard this president ramble on and on and about those greedy "fat cats on wall street", the "millionaires and billionaires"? His constant demonizing of said "fat cats"? That's him stoking the proletariat to rise up against the bourgeois. And that's exactly what you're seeing here.

We've seen it before, it's a familiar path all cheered on by Obama. Why do you think I keep using the term "useful idiots"? Because everything being done has happened before in any communist revolution, it's how Marx planned/predicted things and they're just following the path.

You must make the proletariat believe it's the bourgeois who are the cause of all their problems. And that's exactly what Obama has been doing since he's gotten into office, and these dirty hippies fell for it. What's even more funny is the communist protesters would likely be killed for what they're doing if we had their communist workers paradise. America haters, every last one of them.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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That is not what they're after. They hate business because it has more money then them. They hate business because they thought after graduating with a lib arts degree big buisness will give them all free bmws, and free houses on 5th ave. And then reality hit and it wasn't a gravy train.

I dont agree with companies being bailed out. You take risks and fail, you go under. I dont agree with them writing rules thats favor one company or another.

But I dont agree that there is such a thing as too much profit. I dont agree that business is some how 'robbing' the poor, and taking their money. I dont agree the rich should pay more in taxes. I dont agree that government should make everyone equal.

You realize that you're just inventing positions in your head for these people to hold, right?

I've actually been there and listened to the people protesting there, have you? Of course not, but that doesn't stop you from thinking that you know exactly what this huge, nebulous group 'believes'. There might be some people there who think the things you just made up, but that is in no way the prevailing sentiment there.

The prevailing sentiment is exactly what other people have been trying to tell you. Wall St. has rigged the game in their favor, and they are screwing us all over.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
85,709
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Haven't you heard this president ramble on and on and about those greedy "fat cats on wall street", the "millionaires and billionaires"? His constant demonizing of said "fat cats"? That's him stoking the proletariat to rise up against the bourgeois. And that's exactly what you're seeing here.

We've seen it before, it's a familiar path all cheered on by Obama. Why do you think I keep using the term "useful idiots"? Because everything being done has happened before in any communist revolution, it's how Marx planned/predicted things and they're just following the path.

You must make the proletariat believe it's the bourgeois who are the cause of all their problems. And that's exactly what Obama has been doing since he's gotten into office, and these dirty hippies fell for it. What's even more funny is the communist protesters would likely be killed for what they're doing if we had their communist workers paradise. America haters, every last one of them.

At least if America were a bit more socialist you could get the mental help you so desperately need. Does your health plan not cover psychiatric evaluation?
 
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