#OccupyWallstreet

[Svnla]

I do so enjoy the guy with $25,000+ loan who thinks it should be paid for by others. Did someone force him to borrow money?

See my previous post with link from cnbc about clueless and aimless college grads with tens of thousands in debt from student loans.

Edit: here it is = http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=32408753&postcount=634

 

[spidey07]

It won't be just 'marxists' who bring violence if you push the people far enough, you retard.

Look to thuis president for your anger. This is what he does. Smart people have understood him and have prepared accordingly.

And you laughed at my prediction of war between haves and have nots. Now you egg it on? Bring it.

 

[Phokus]

Look to thuis president for your anger. This is what he does. Smart people have understood him and have prepared accordingly.

And you laughed at my prediction of war between haves and have nots. Now you egg it on? Bring it.

Aka the Reagan Revolution.

You are a really stupid asshole if you think your side will win the war when shit really starts to hit the fan.

Americans are starting to wake up. Even the majority of REPUBLICANS want to raise taxes on those making over 250K now, you drooling imbecile:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2198416

 

[michal1980]

Picture on top of the we are the 99 percent website.

And to answer the NOW WHAT question:

Find a job, and WORK. Its hard, its not fun.

Instead this fool like alot of the OWS crowd wants to be handed a job. Maybe like in their fake sports where everyone gets a medal, they expect a pay check just for 'growing up'.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Aka the Reagan Revolution.

You are a really stupid asshole if you think your side will win the war when shit really starts to hit the fan.

Americans are starting to wake up. Even the majority of REPUBLICANS want to raise taxes on those making over 250K now, you drooling imbecile:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2198416

Ok, so we raise taxes on those making over 250k. Where's the other 1.4 trillion come from?

 

[Phokus]

Ok, so we raise taxes on those making over 250k. Where's the other 1.4 trillion come from?

Nobody ever said 'no cuts'.

But tax increases HAVE to be part of the equation.

 

[fskimospy]

Nobody ever said 'no cuts'.

But tax increases HAVE to be part of the equation.

I wonder if people realize how much the deficit would go down on its own if we were able to return to a more normal economic picture. Then again, people seem to think that Obama passed a bunch of new policies that account for the deficit to begin with, so I'm not sure how open to reasoned argument they are. (maybe if I spelled it out with Twinkies?)

 

[rchiu]

Nobody ever said 'no cuts'.

But tax increases HAVE to be part of the equation.

You know, there is a good way and a bad way to do the same thing but why does Obama and you people have to chose the worse possible way.

If I were a good leader, I'd say to America, look this is a challenging and difficult time for all American, we all have to make sacrifices. We would like to ask those American who make more, who can afford more to sacrifice and contribute to this great nation. All American will appreciate the sacrifice you make. And as a leader, I promise this will be a short term solution to deal with the current economic crisis. Once the crisis is over, we will revisit and see if we can reverse the policy.

No instead, you demonize us 1% as greedy, corrupt people and it is absolutely right to reach into our pocket and take money away from us. I would say Fvck you Obama, I ain't hand out one cent with the way you people demonizing us and think you are entitled to my hard earn money. I will have no trouble finding deductibles and pay even less.

 

[fskimospy]

You know, there is a good way and a bad way to do the same thing but why does Obama and you people have to chose the worse possible way.

If I were a good leader, I'd say to America, look this is a challenging and difficult time for all American, we all have to make sacrifices. We would like to ask those American who make more, who can afford more to sacrifice and contribute to this great nation. All American will appreciate the sacrifice you make. And as a leader, I promise this will be a short term solution to deal with the current economic crisis. Once the crisis is over, we will revisit and see if we can reverse the policy.

No instead, you demonize us 1% as greedy, corrupt people and it is absolutely right to reach into our pocket and take money away from us. I would say Fvck you Obama, I ain't hand out one cent with the way you people demonizing us and think you are entitled to my hard earn money. I will have no trouble finding deductibles and pay even less.

It doesn't matter if Obama hurts the 1%'s feelings or not and if they weren't already taking all the deductibles available to them, they are retarded. I thought those 1%ers were supposed to be smart or something.

A small portion of Americans has benefited enormously from America's economic expansion over the last 30 years, and they have done so far in excess of any possible role they had in creating that wealth. The epic freakout about the wish to return taxes to a level lower than those under Ronald Reagan would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

 

[Nebor]

Aka the Reagan Revolution.

You are a really stupid asshole if you think your side will win the war when shit really starts to hit the fan.

Americans are starting to wake up. Even the majority of REPUBLICANS want to raise taxes on those making over 250K now, you drooling imbecile:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2198416

At least if shit really hits the fan and the whiny OWS crowd wins, they'll have earned something: whatever they manage to take themselves. That's more respectable than standing out in the street crying for the .gov to take things for them.

But those people would never win a war. Most of them wouldn't pick up a gun or put together a bomb. They wouldn't sit still in position in 10 degree weather for hours at a time, laying in ambush. They're no revolutionaries, they're no soldiers. They're just whiny hipsters.

 

[Jhhnn]

At least if shit really hits the fan and the whiny OWS crowd wins, they'll have earned something: whatever they manage to take themselves. That's more respectable than standing out in the street crying for the .gov to take things for them.

But those people would never win a war. Most of them wouldn't pick up a gun or put together a bomb. They wouldn't sit still in position in 10 degree weather for hours at a time, laying in ambush. They're no revolutionaries, they're no soldiers. They're just whiny hipsters.

Mighty fine whining, yourself, about what you represent to be whiners.

It's not that kind of revolution- it's one fought with ballots, and with brains. And it seems to be gathering support, too, much to the dismay of the usual righties and their inspirational pundits.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44921688/ns/us_news-life/#.TptAxXEbUw4

 

[Nebor]

Mighty fine whining, yourself, about what you represent to be whiners.

It's not that kind of revolution- it's one fought with ballots, and with brains. And it seems to be gathering support, too, much to the dismay of the usual righties and their inspirational pundits.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44921688/ns/us_news-life/#.TptAxXEbUw4

I think we know how dollars vs. ballots turns out, but I suppose we can wait to see what the Diebold machine says next November.

 

[Craig234]

There's an old saying: 'Power is never given, it's always taken'.

These protests are how democracy - largely - is supposed to work, unfortunately.

You don't have to go in the streets to fight slavery - some issues get settled. But it was won in violence and protest.

Nearly every bit of progress has been a fight.

Women's suffrage, labor rights, gay rights, civil rights, and many more issues all have their roots in the people fighting for them, not in 'enlightened Congress passing them'.

Our very country's founding came not from England listening to the colonists and correcting their wrongs.

A problem is that 'the people' haven't been organized in any fights in decades, since Vietnam.

And without that, the corrupt interests have taken, and taken, and taken, and taken, until you see these absurd charts how they have raped the middle class of wealth.

I've been wrong on some things. One of those was that 'what we need is for people to go in the streets and protest, but that just seems impractical. People won't do it.'

It left me feeling the only mechanism left to the people was the internet. I'm glad to see I was partly wrong, with these protests.

Partly, because the vast majority of people who support these issue can't practically go to the protests. A very small percent will have to represent them.

It's unclear how long they'll go on or the practical result.

But it's still a great thing.

This is democracy, when the people communicate, rather than have the well funded propaganda industry keep them watching Jersey Shore and misled politically.

It shouldn't be needed, but this is how it works - power is not given, it is taken.

The top 1% have taken it. Now it's time for the people to take it back.

So far they have had a great success in changing the national political debate to be about the issues of the 1% and their grabbing of wealth, and corruption.

The upper class has not yet begun to fight this movement - it'll get a lot more difficult before any good comes of it. But that's what people have to do.

Build a national consensus for reform, or let the top 1% win the war and destroy America's middle class and democracy.

Save234

 

[Jhhnn]

I think we know how dollars vs. ballots turns out, but I suppose we can wait to see what the Diebold machine says next November.

I think whatever opportunities that may have existed in that realm are now water under the bridge. Repubs' currently favored method of shaping the vote appears to be shaping the electorate, restricting the franchise behind the great boogeyman of Voter Fraud!

 

[trenchfoot]

This is a conspiracy against the rich! The peasants have risen! Call out the Swift Boaters! Call out the hordes of loyal right winger middle class and poor to do the rich's dirty work! Call out all those thoroughly corrupted bought-out-sold-out Repub politicians to make even more laws that benefit only the rich! Call out all those slacker K St. corporate lobbyists and whip them silly for not corrupting the politicians enough! Call out the Tea Party'ers and make them even more obstructive and destructive! Call out the Repub owned Supreme Court to make Corporations even more "people-like" and let them excersize their second amendment rights like anybody else and abolish the Democratic Party for they are a threat to national security! Call out all those Repub Governors and have them finish their job of legislating their public unions into nothing more than a fart in the wind and proclaim secession! Call out the Koch brothers and friends and have them pump even more billions of $$$ into unlimited corporate propaganda outlets that the corrupted USSC gifted them with!

 

[monovillage]

I'm going to steal this quote from Kip Hansen that i read at dot earth. It's just too sensible not to repeat.

"Occupy the Street You Live On and work with your neighbors to make it a better place for all."

 

[Craig234]

I'm going to steal this quote from Kip Hansen that i read at dot earth. It's just too sensible not to repeat.

"Occupy the Street You Live On and work with your neighbors to make it a better place for all."

Except it completely misses the point and issue of the huge problems with Wall Street, the 1%, and their corruption of our political system.

 

[JSt0rm]

Find a job, and WORK. Its hard, its not fun.

Instead this fool like alot of the OWS crowd wants to be handed a job. Maybe like in their fake sports where everyone gets a medal, they expect a pay check just for 'growing up'.

we keep coming back to this and it amazes me that everyone here thinks anyone can just go out and get a job. If that was the case why is the economy in the shitter?

 

[senseamp]

What the protesters should do is occupy the towns where the Wall Street Crooks live, not just where they work.

 

[michal1980]

most of the 1% aren't as rich and curropt as you anti 1% want to make them out to be.

the cutoff for 1% is ~380k. Thats a good dr. or a household of two doctors. Wow talk about evillll, they must be killed. Are the 99 percenters serious about calling this 1% of the population evil? These people went to school for 11+ years, and now some spoiled jobless kid wants to do what to them?

The top .1% get income into the millions.

Futher more. The top .1% pay ~18% of the taxes in the USA, the top 1% ~38% of the taxes.

The .1% number ~140,000 people.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html

Are the 99percenters saying that 140,000 people are able to buy all the votes in this country? If thats the case the problem isn't the .1% in the country, they should take a look in the mirror at who they are voting for. 140,000 votes in a presidental election is a rounding error.

 

[Doppel]

With Obama increasingly trying to fvck this over by claiming he cares about it, too http://www.businessinsider.com/whit...a-is-fighting-for-interests-of-the-99-2011-10 this movement is facing the real possibility of being spoiled like the tea party was by Palin et al.

Are the 99percenters saying that 140,000 people are able to buy all the votes in this country? If thats the case the problem isn't the .1% in the country, they should take a look in the mirror at who they are voting for. 140,000 votes in a presidental election is a rounding error.

Politicians do what their lobbyists say. If they don't, they get no money. And money is what wins elections. Take two guys with 50/50 support in general public and now give one of them a couple billion for his campaign. Watch him sport fvck the other guy into oblivion. That's how it happens and that's what they mean about rich buying votes. If you think I'm wrong, you should start convincing these rich people to stop with their lobbying.

 

[yuppiejr]

we keep coming back to this and it amazes me that everyone here thinks anyone can just go out and get a job. If that was the case why is the economy in the shitter?

Probably because the "I was told I could be anything when I grew up" idiots fanning the flames of this movement need a stiff shot of reality.

When I was a kid I was told Santa Claus was real, now what? #OccupyWallStreet

If there are only 50,000 jobs for English Majors to go into teaching and 250,000 people get that degree in a given year, guess what - time to compete! Unless you are a leftist, of course, in which case we need to 'create' 200,000 jobs for English majors in government...

What you want/like and what economic reality is willing to hire you to do may not be in alignment. This is reality of supply and demand, even in the labor force... if you choose to pay $25k-$75k for school to get a degree for which there is no market demand why is that the public's job to fix? First life lesson for the post grad, be smarter with your money!

Recent college grads are some of the worst candidates I've ever had to interview. I've actually started moving them to the bottom of the pile vs. folks applying with military experience or work experience in the field and no degree... Luckily there are one or two out there who actually worked their way through college and picked up some useful industry experience in the process. The majority... not so much. At least they have something to do with the like minded moochers out there occupying Wall Street these days.

 

[rchiu]

most of the 1% aren't as rich and curropt as you anti 1% want to make them out to be.

the cutoff for 1% is ~380k. Thats a good dr. or a household of two doctors. Wow talk about evillll, they must be killed. Are the 99 percenters serious about calling this 1% of the population evil? These people went to school for 11+ years, and now some spoiled jobless kid wants to do what to them?

The top .1% get income into the millions.

Futher more. The top .1% pay ~18% of the taxes in the USA, the top 1% ~38% of the taxes.

The .1% number ~140,000 people.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html

Are the 99percenters saying that 140,000 people are able to buy all the votes in this country? If thats the case the problem isn't the .1% in the country, they should take a look in the mirror at who they are voting for. 140,000 votes in a presidental election is a rounding error.

Ha, yeah to to exact, Obama wanna increase tax on those making $250k+, which is about the top 1.5%. But 98.5% vs 1.5% isn't as catchy or sound as nice as 99% vs 1%. You know Obama and his Hope and Change, he gotta have a catchy simple line so his disciples can follow.

If you have decent degree, good experience and career track, making $250k in a dual income family isn't atypical. I have my ms engineering and MBA with 10+ years consulting experience and my wife top 5 MBA with 10+ experience in corporate finance easily make that. Most our friends with dual income and similar background, easily make that. My engineering friends living in Silicon Valley, dual income easily make that. None of us do any lobbying, or do anything special other than going to work, come home to our family like the rest of American.

You know how it is, those fvcking politicians run the country to the ground and they gotta find someone to blame. They gotta have their catchy phrase to get their mob to follow. Now Obama got his mob with no idea exactly what they are doing, no agenda, no plan, just bunch of finger pointing at the easy picking 1%.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

It doesn't matter if Obama hurts the 1%'s feelings or not and if they weren't already taking all the deductibles available to them, they are retarded. I thought those 1%ers were supposed to be smart or something.

A small portion of Americans has benefited enormously from America's economic expansion over the last 30 years, and they have done so far in excess of any possible role they had in creating that wealth. The epic freakout about the wish to return taxes to a level lower than those under Ronald Reagan would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

rchiu has a point that extends beyond the taxation issue. I'm generally concerned about the concentration of wealth but there is absolutely no need to demonize the 1% or even the 0.1%. There need to be changes in the system but the overwhelming majority of these people have done nothing wrong. The only reason to attack them personally is to still up votes and further divide the country.

 

[pcgeek11]

More fun from the douches OWS:

Dismiss all charges or we will clog up courts, lawyers for Occupy Wall Street protesters say
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local...urts_dismiss_charges_or_else_lawyers_say.html